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Monster Island Mafia- Game over! Town wins!
- Thread starter smashman90
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/shrug i worked off the last votecount. smashy get in here
seriously more vote counts
i'm waiting to hear from tiger.
i'm waiting to hear from tiger.
agree with FF 429 about cacti and xiivi. I'd go with a scumfever lynch too. Mentos and Tiger were also on my radar, but recently tiger started giving me a townie vibe so I'm not really down with his lynch.
I can't remember why I made the suggestion about cop not ccing, I def had a reason at the time.
I can't remember why I made the suggestion about cop not ccing, I def had a reason at the time.
smashman90
Smash Lord
It's that **** Saradian Agent again! Vote/Rawr Count:
Kirbyoshi: (1)
Scumfever: Mentos, Gheb, Tigerwoods (3)
Tigerwoods: Cacti, Xonar, Circus (3)
Chaco Chibo (1)
Macman: Scumfever, Marshy, Xiivi (3)
Blueyoshi: Chaco, (1)
Xiivi: Kirbyoshi (1)
Not voting/rawring: frozenflame, Macman, blueyoshi (3)
With 15 people, it takes 8 votes to lynch.
Kirbyoshi: (1)
Scumfever: Mentos, Gheb, Tigerwoods (3)
Tigerwoods: Cacti, Xonar, Circus (3)
Chaco Chibo (1)
Macman: Scumfever, Marshy, Xiivi (3)
Blueyoshi: Chaco, (1)
Xiivi: Kirbyoshi (1)
Not voting/rawring: frozenflame, Macman, blueyoshi (3)
With 15 people, it takes 8 votes to lynch.
chaco you're not getting lynched early in the game so more input because you are one of the more important players right now
is that votecount correct? xiivi voted mac in 435
mentos what do you think about the players i listed in 376?
is that votecount correct? xiivi voted mac in 435
mentos what do you think about the players i listed in 376?
Blue Yoshi
Smash Master
Apparently I'm not important enough to make it in neither of Marshy's nor Smashman's votecount list... 
frozen should vote
Where the hell did this come from? Explain.
And what about all this? Just tossing around town reads so you look good if and when they flip town? This just seems out of no where.
Yep, that's the post. What was the deal with that?
I agree that discussion about the double voter SHOULD NOT be the primary focus of overall discussion, however, the ground rules about how a double voter probably works and that one CERTAINLY exists is something that needs to be publicly established and accepted. We don't need to be trying to figure who it is, but EVERYONE should know that there is one. It's very important to prevent mistakes like I outlined from happening.
#71 seems to deal primarily with you scolding BlueYoshi for suggesting an unanimous Day 1 quicklynch. I don't really see how it applies. #79 though, concerning scumfever, is a constructive post about gameplay. I don't really buy your case though, because I simply think you guys ran into a TvT disagreement over interpretation of BlueYoshi's stupid play. You say it's likely newbie mistakes, scumfever is more skeptical and thinks its scum play trying to play the newb card. This is a very common dilemma to run into day one and causes a lot of TvT. Your case is legit, I just don't think its the strongest reason to lynch someone. He could very well be scum trying to prey on newb mistakes and take the "easy" target, but there isn't much evidence to suggest that it isn't equally likely that he's simply a skeptical townie who thinks BlueYoshi's poor play was a good enough reason to warrant a lynch Day 1.do you think my case against scumfever is based on playstyle? id like you to comment on that (posts #71 and #79 are particularily noteworthy here) because i dont see how this is the case. if its not that i assume that you talk about my complaints about inactivity?
Playstyle complaints generally concern inactivity yes, but it goes a little beyond that. It's really unimportant though. Things seem to be headed in a better direction now so I'm not worried about it.
I really hope you remember and can give me a good reason because until then, you're high on my list.
In fact, I'd highly suggest you remember quickly considering people are pushing for you lynch, but I'd rather hear what you have to say about that incident before I go ahead and vote you as well.
@ Marshy, my vote will depend on how the people I'm talking to in this post respond to my queries.
TigerWoods
Smash Champion
Well I just searched for all your posts and I can say this... every single one of them from the past 15 days(pretty much when people actually started discussing things) has pretty much zippo information. If anyone would like a giant list of quotes I'd be ok with sharing that.
Seriously search all his posts... nada...
In my case at least I am -trying- to prove a point with side information. Also, I'm not really afraid of throwing myself out there. Even if you have had more posts I do believe mine have had more substance.
Explain. It seems convenient to lynch those(or me) right now...
REPLYING... Sheesh I've been out for less than 24 hours
Oh and not going to lie that I'm usually pretty bad at explaining things... but if you need anything clarified then please let me know...
And if you think scum is looking scummy, and I'm being scummy... then how are we both scummy?
How am I being scummy?
TigerWoods
Smash Champion
I take back what I said earlier about lynching frozen
That was a pretty deductive post....
That was a pretty deductive post....
Chaco/Tiger, who I felt were two of the scummier players at the time, seemed to jump on blueyoshi's case in response to the Chaco wagon building up when I felt blueyoshi was actually becoming less scummy than I felt in the beginning.
I would say it's a very reasonable list. I can agree with you on Scumfever, Tiger, and Macman for sure, and definitely to an extent myself and Frozen(I won't lie, I haven't been all here in this game>_>). Xiivi a bit less so, but I can see where you're coming from with it. I'm definitely going to step my game up here D2, I haven't put as much into this as I should have.
For now I'm fine with my vote on Scumfever, I'll likely flip over to TW if need be to get a lynch through though.
Kirbyoshi
Smash Apprentice
It was a joke designed to get Marshy's attention that he missed something in the votecount. He took the hint.FF said:
I was just saying who I'm pretty sure is town. Why would that make you uncomfortable, since you were on that list?FF said:
Don't remember.
I went back and reread my post and it seemed like I was implying that Chaco could have been lying to get the real cop to cc, and if that was the case I didn't think the cop should cc. That's why I believe I said "tho, I believe chaco" since it was contradictory to what I was implying. I don't think netting scum this early is as valuable of having 2+ nights of cop reports.
This is just a guess though, I can't remember even typing that let alone why I did. If this isn't enough for you, i dunno what to tell ya.
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Mostly, it seems like you're feigning any interest in scumhunting. This has a lot to do with the way I view Blue. I could be wrong—I've been wrong before—but he comes off town to me. Not as town as some other players, but certinaly not very scummy. So when I see people like you and Scumfever and Chaco trying to point to him as obvious "newb scum," it comes off like a desperate move to sway the town's gaze onto someone else. Blue Yoshi is one of the obvious choices for a tactic like this due to the strange way in which he started the game. Even I was uneasy with him at first. But he has only given off more townie vibes as the game has gone on. So to see you reaching for a Blue lynch at this stage in the Day, pretending like his self-vote was actually scummy instead of just unusual, and only hopping on Jungle once the votes are already rolling on him makes me suspicious of you.
And, as I said before, "I wouldn't lynch me if I were you" is Scum Manipulation 101.
Also, for the record, if you flip scum, Jungle is not clear. If Jungle flips scum, you are not clear. The recent headbutting between the two of you could easily be scum distancing.
Cacti
Smash Journeyman
@Frozen, I didn't want people to start talking about the double voter because it might lead to people directing it and such, which could also mean scum directing it around, if the double voter is one of the newer players. I'm pretty sure that the double voter is town because if it was scum/indy, they wouldn't reveal it this early; they would save it for a quick-hammer. It is good to know that there is one, but I think that discussion of it would not help us and might lead to worse situations.
I'm fine with a Scumfever lynch because most of his posts have no substance, I'm fine with your lynch because of your original bad reasoning to vote Scumfever, which contradicted itself; you said that it was because he was very aggressive about the BlueYoshi wagon early on, yet you say you think BlueYoshi is scum. This doesn't make sense, if you thought that Scumfever was pushing a BlueYoshi lynch and you think that BlueYoshi is scum, wouldn't that make Scumfever town in your eyes? Now you state that him posting no content is the reasons, but that's just parroting other people, maybe trying to better justify your vote after messing up before?
Also, you do not explain your suspicions. You said before that you are suspicious of BlueYoshi and Kirbyoshi, yet never touch on that again later.
Kirbyoshi not so much maybe anymore, but he should explain why he thinks that Frozen, Gheb, Marshy and I are town. Just throwing it out there doesn't help, is what Frozen is saying.
I'm fine with a Scumfever lynch because most of his posts have no substance, I'm fine with your lynch because of your original bad reasoning to vote Scumfever, which contradicted itself; you said that it was because he was very aggressive about the BlueYoshi wagon early on, yet you say you think BlueYoshi is scum. This doesn't make sense, if you thought that Scumfever was pushing a BlueYoshi lynch and you think that BlueYoshi is scum, wouldn't that make Scumfever town in your eyes? Now you state that him posting no content is the reasons, but that's just parroting other people, maybe trying to better justify your vote after messing up before?
Also, you do not explain your suspicions. You said before that you are suspicious of BlueYoshi and Kirbyoshi, yet never touch on that again later.
Kirbyoshi not so much maybe anymore, but he should explain why he thinks that Frozen, Gheb, Marshy and I are town. Just throwing it out there doesn't help, is what Frozen is saying.
Are you saying that they were on his case but didn't vote for him, but you felt they were going to in accordance with the building wagon?
Just went back and checked Marshy's vote count and now I get it. Completely innocuous comment. My bad on that one.
The list doesn't make me uncomfortable, it just seemed out of the blue. Any particular reason for posting it, or at least reasons for why you think those listed are town?
Fair enough. I agree with most of what you have to say here, but I think trying to completely shut down discussion about the double voter was a bad approach. You should have said then what you just wrote here.
Who is the "you" you are referring to in the first paragraph here? I had a hard time following what you were saying here.
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Shocodoro Blagshidect
You are both being scummy because you are both posting in a scum way, for as far as I can see the posting going on. Also see the quote below.REPLYING... Sheesh I've been out for less than 24 hours
Oh and not going to lie that I'm usually pretty bad at explaining things... but if you need anything clarified then please let me know...
And if you think scum is looking scummy, and I'm being scummy... then how are we both scummy?
i wasnt saying that your point doesnt have merit. i merely tried to show a different - less sinister - interpretation of cactis behaviour. you openly called him suspicious for it but i think his intention was a good one as rolefishing is often looked down upon for obvious reasons. i see what you mean but i dont think its suspicious of cacti to say that.
i think its one of our stronger leads regardless. its true that there could be better reasons to lynch him but keep in mind that its d1 and that alone makes it difficult to find a convincing lynch candidate that *everybody* can agree with. lynching scumfever would directly give us info on two players who are rather suspicious themselves: tiger woods has been extremely unconvincing in his explanations on why scumfever should be lynched and he also looks strikingly easy to manipulate. xiivi has immediately dismissed my case against scumfever and labeled me unfairly as 'village idiot'. additionally he has played the 'hide behind a veil of random votes' game which is immensly unprocutive considering that i have brought forth a legitimate case yet he chose to ignore it and stall discussion in that regard. jungles flip will give us info on one of those two players regardless of his flip and that will be something we can work with d2.
same here though id also add xiivi to that list. scumfever, tw and xiivi are my top 3 lynches for toDay.
im starting to get you as scummy. youd always say things like 'youre scummy because you post in a scum way' but you never substantiate these claims and you never explain where and why the person you mention is posting 'in a scum way'. as long as you fail to do so *you* are the one whos posting in a scum way because you introduce discussion that leads nowhere and has no solid basis. thats the conformist approach of a scumbag who is pseudo scumhunting to look credible.
additionally you are awfully defensive. when you have been asked questions you dont seem to like you were acusing the person asking of trying to make you look like a black sheep. by saying this you not only avoid the actual question but also seem to avoid legitimate discussion - which you have done quite a lot thus far. depending on toDays flip youll probably rise on my scumlist.
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Shocodoro Blagshidect
To the first paragraph, I agree. But it's mostly because there is hardly anything to show as evidence on day 1. I'll dig up some of his older posts and post some comments on them.im starting to get you as scummy. youd always say things like 'youre scummy because you post in a scum way' but you never substantiate these claims and you never explain where and why the person you mention is posting 'in a scum way'. as long as you fail to do so *you* are the one whos posting in a scum way because you introduce discussion that leads nowhere and has no solid basis. thats the conformist approach of a scumbag who is pseudo scumhunting to look credible.
additionally you are awfully defensive. when you have been asked questions you dont seem to like you were acusing the person asking of trying to make you look like a black sheep. by saying this you not only avoid the actual question but also seem to avoid legitimate discussion - which you have done quite a lot thus far. depending on toDays flip youll probably rise on my scumlist.
On the second part, yes, I play defensive. That's how I always play. I like to stall the lynch 'till the last hour so we have enough time to find the scum and don't mislynch, even on day 1. Everyone here plays awfully aggressive, which I find irritating myself, but do you see me put them higher on my scumlist? Nah.
What. The. Fack.
If you have any questions for me that I 'avoided' point them out and I'll answer it here and now. Oh and leave the worthless, empty, obvious questions out please.
It's true that I often just post quick posts with my findings on day 1, because there's often not much to discuss. I'll be more productive later and will try to watch it. You'll probably see me post on Tiger in a while, I think the whole Scumfever thing is pretty obvious though (empty posts, full of nothing) so I'll skip that one.
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Shocodoro Blagshidect
Nvm on that mini quote, misread that. BTW, I did that twice in succession because I was under the impression that there was some working together involved there...
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Shocodoro Blagshidect
The heart quickening tour through the history of Tigerwoods post history! Let's start.
Post 139:
Right now some of you, including me, have an eye on Blue Yoshi, because he has a chance of being scum (like everyone), but moreso then the rest. Guess what, Tigerwoods starts by moving attention away from Blue Yoshi to Kirbyoshi, by something completely illogical, I almost fell for it, wouldn't it be for this post (142):
Anyways, lulz. That was pretty much Tigers first post, and I wouldn't take too much of what I say for granted. Let's continue looking...
Post 147 and 149:
First thing he's saying is that he thinks that Jungle IS scum. This corrosponds with Ghebs crusade on Jungle. This moves focus to Jungle. He says Gheb has a 50% chance to be town, because it'd be stupid to say someone has no chance to be scum.
People butting heads is never an indication of alliance, at least never such an obvious one, kinda bad logic imo. 'I highly doubt that they are both protown.' Why? There is no reason for that.
The last paragraph is nicely build up. First he says that he's suspicious of Gheb, then he continues to saying that his posts are good. He explains why he would be scum (he's putting a bullseye on his forehead, this concludes that he isn't afraid of dying), then he explains why he would be town. Got any pattern? First show the bad side, then the good side to 'make it up'.
Still, this could just be a post to make it seem like he's town by alliancing with Gheb, who has a leading role.
He's been V/LA, so a quick jump through the time/space continuem
Post 290:
Anyways..
Then he posts this
Post 296:
Skip some time again..
Post 397:
Again, he joins Gheb crusade against Scumfever. WOOOOW, sounds familiar? See post 147.
Then, a few posts down, to react to cacti
By saying that he likes to push town lynches, and putting it in contact with Blue he's practically saying that Blue is town. WOOOW, sounds familiar? In the start he redirected attention to Kirbyoshi from Blue_yoshi.
Then these posts come up
402
then to reply to macman asking how he knows Blue is town:
403:
407:
Tell me this Tigerwoods, how is Scum aggressive while he is also vacuous? How is that possible?
Comment on Gheb again. Saying that because he has been town, Gheb must be town again! Brilliant deduction mayne.
BTW guys, I wouldn't lynch xonar if I were you, but that's just my opinion!
Skip a few normal posts:
Suddenly he's down with a scumfever lynch, even though he didn't point anything out yet as a response to Scumfever. :O
His latest post had this, which caught my eye
and finally
I just proved that ^^
Thank you guys for all your time reading this impossible WoT, I've made some sweet new information reading back, and I hope you did too from reading this post. Day 1 shouldn't contain a post of this size, but I was forced to anyways. Hope you see why I posted for Tigerwoods now. Most of the deductions here are probable, but not granted, but don't look down on that, he isn't even lynched yet.
Post 139:
Immediatly starts by adding some salt to the whole Blue wound. It's pretty unthinkable to predict this kind of response, yet Tiger thinks he set it up. In the 'confusion' (well it wasn't REALLY confusion, but people were responding... weird imo) it didn't look bad at all.
Right now some of you, including me, have an eye on Blue Yoshi, because he has a chance of being scum (like everyone), but moreso then the rest. Guess what, Tigerwoods starts by moving attention away from Blue Yoshi to Kirbyoshi, by something completely illogical, I almost fell for it, wouldn't it be for this post (142):
Gheb posted that. It are just 2 subtle sentences to say 'Yeah man, that makes sense, I'll RAWR for him too!' Gheb also said that nothing new was put on the table, but it's **** hard to get new information so early on DAY 1. This isn't Ghebs first game, he would know that new information is unlikely, he posts this all and asks Kirbyoshi to explain himself. Now people are going to look into Kirbyoshi some more, for there are already 2 comments on him. Only Tigerwoods wouldn't matter, because he hadn't post that much anyway, but Gheb was majorly posting that day, and he took some sort of a leader role. He could easily write this off as enthusiasm, as he is often seen posting. Nice plan, right?
Anyways, lulz. That was pretty much Tigers first post, and I wouldn't take too much of what I say for granted. Let's continue looking...
Post 147 and 149:
First thing he's saying is that he thinks that Jungle IS scum. This corrosponds with Ghebs crusade on Jungle. This moves focus to Jungle. He says Gheb has a 50% chance to be town, because it'd be stupid to say someone has no chance to be scum.
People butting heads is never an indication of alliance, at least never such an obvious one, kinda bad logic imo. 'I highly doubt that they are both protown.' Why? There is no reason for that.
The last paragraph is nicely build up. First he says that he's suspicious of Gheb, then he continues to saying that his posts are good. He explains why he would be scum (he's putting a bullseye on his forehead, this concludes that he isn't afraid of dying), then he explains why he would be town. Got any pattern? First show the bad side, then the good side to 'make it up'.
Still, this could just be a post to make it seem like he's town by alliancing with Gheb, who has a leading role.
He's been V/LA, so a quick jump through the time/space continuem
Post 290:
Oh lord, Gheb and Tigerwoods again? Well, Gheb's accusations were apparently so weak that it could all be hit off with 1 statement. Gheb is a smart player, he'd never post such empty accusations without thinking....
To defend myself from Gheb, quite honestly... I haven't been here.
...
Anyways..
Then he posts this
Post 296:
Then Blue yoshi responds:
Which is true, Tigerwoods just contradicted himself. Scum logic is always bull****, so this would explain some things. What does Tiger do? He doesn't respond to this at all. He just leaves, I guess, even after 2 pretty quick succesive posts he dares to leave, sigh..
Skip some time again..
Post 397:
Ok he had finals, did he tell us? Nah, looks like a cheap excuse to not post so far. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt though.
Again, he joins Gheb crusade against Scumfever. WOOOOW, sounds familiar? See post 147.
Then, a few posts down, to react to cacti
Ok, valid reason to rawr. Except for the fact that day 1 is usually a town lynch, and on SWF there's alotta pressure going on. He mentions Scumfevers desire to lynch a townie (blue_yoshi) but you don't mention gheb wanting to lynch Scumfever.
By saying that he likes to push town lynches, and putting it in contact with Blue he's practically saying that Blue is town. WOOOW, sounds familiar? In the start he redirected attention to Kirbyoshi from Blue_yoshi.
Then these posts come up
402
Well, doesn't that make him more town? He has a reason to vote, the rest is just on to be on. Vote for the rest then!
then to reply to macman asking how he knows Blue is town:
403:
'lol', '..' is town, but I defend him anyway! 'lol' Yeah you catch my drift.
407:
Repeating the self-vote thing, even though it's been long solved. Ok, it is still a factor, benefit of the doubt.
Tell me this Tigerwoods, how is Scum aggressive while he is also vacuous? How is that possible?
Comment on Gheb again. Saying that because he has been town, Gheb must be town again! Brilliant deduction mayne.
BTW guys, I wouldn't lynch xonar if I were you, but that's just my opinion!
Skip a few normal posts:
First he basicly edits what he said before, by just covering it up with... nothing. Good job!
Suddenly he's down with a scumfever lynch, even though he didn't point anything out yet as a response to Scumfever. :O
His latest post had this, which caught my eye
Why is it convenient?
Yeah, nice excuse. If you're gonna be vague all game we don't need you anyway. Being vague is a nice way to spread chaos (scum actions)
and finally
I just proved that ^^
Thank you guys for all your time reading this impossible WoT, I've made some sweet new information reading back, and I hope you did too from reading this post. Day 1 shouldn't contain a post of this size, but I was forced to anyways. Hope you see why I posted for Tigerwoods now. Most of the deductions here are probable, but not granted, but don't look down on that, he isn't even lynched yet.
TigerWoods
Smash Champion
If you vote without even attempting to give a reason. He just joined wagons... My reasoning earlier in the game may have been faulty... but I at least tried to explain my reasons.
If you guys haven't noticed... scum STILL isn't saying anything... >>
I didn't say he wasn't mafia... I was just saying I don't think we should vote him off yet since if he WAS town, he'd be an asset. :grr:
There are 3 votes on me already and he is under the radar of some other people?
I'm not going to be vague all game!
I really was out dang nabbit.
As for the 'contradictions'.. yeah some of them are there, but that's because I changed my mind after reading what everyone else had to say. The 'contradictions' were over long periods of time and people have been shifting around their votes from person to person. Anyway... they weren't really even contradictions. It's hard to claim things on day one.
Anyway, if you prove my reasoning is wrong, then prove my reasoning is wrong. I'm down with that. I stand by my vote on scumfever though.
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Shocodoro Blagshidect
Faulty reasoning is just as bad as no reasoning, sometimes even worse.
True, Scum speak up!
More people would be an asset if they were town, unfortunately they can almost never be spoken completely free of being mafia.
Who, exactly?
I'm not going to be vague all game!
I really was out dang nabbit.
Well, benefit of the doubt.
Still, I don't like your posts.
hey frozen. deadlines tomorrow
smashman90
Smash Lord
Rex Dart, ****** spy! Vote/Rawr Count:
Scumfever: Mentos, Gheb, Tigerwoods (4)
Tigerwoods: Cacti, Xonar, Circus (3)
Chaco: Chibo (1)
Macman: Scumfever, Marshy, Xiivi (2)
Blueyoshi: Chaco, (1)
Xiivi: Kirbyoshi (1)
Not voting/rawring: frozenflame, Macman, blueyoshi (3)
With 15 people, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Remember, tomorrow is the deadline.
Scumfever: Mentos, Gheb, Tigerwoods (4)
Tigerwoods: Cacti, Xonar, Circus (3)
Chaco: Chibo (1)
Macman: Scumfever, Marshy, Xiivi (2)
Blueyoshi: Chaco, (1)
Xiivi: Kirbyoshi (1)
Not voting/rawring: frozenflame, Macman, blueyoshi (3)
With 15 people, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Remember, tomorrow is the deadline.
rawr:xiivi
will switch to jungle if necessary
will switch to jungle if necessary
Cacti
Smash Journeyman
Don't think xiivi's mafia.
If no one wants to lynch Tiger, I'll switch to scum. Speaking of him, he needs to speak up now.
If no one wants to lynch Tiger, I'll switch to scum. Speaking of him, he needs to speak up now.
Agreed, Scumfever where you at?
Blue Yoshi
Smash Master
Guys, we should make a decision pretty soon, seeing, as smashman said, tomorrow's the deadline, and I don't think he would allow two extensions for the same day. Deciding at the last minute wouldn't be best, since not everyone will be online at the last minute to see what our decision is. I'm not saying lets choose this minute, I'm just saying lets hurry it up a bit.
TigerWoods
Smash Champion
Hey mac I don't think voting for xiivi is going to really do anything for this day.
Which wagons did i join exactly Tiger?
I voted Blue Yoshi FIRST. I also voted macman because he said he wouldn't reread the thread and sitll has done NOTHING. Frozen asked for his reasoning on something and his best answer is 'i forgot.'
I voted Blue Yoshi FIRST. I also voted macman because he said he wouldn't reread the thread and sitll has done NOTHING. Frozen asked for his reasoning on something and his best answer is 'i forgot.'
rawr:scumfever
We're are people getting this town reads on Xiivi from? I'm just plain confused at this point.
Rawr: Xiivi
I can see where people are coming from about scumfever but I'm just not feeling it. Too many people that I'm getting non-so-town reads on are willing to lynch him.
So down with both wagons at this point.
unrawr rawr xiivi
vig. there is so much scum in this thread i can't handle it. don't be a little ***** vig and SHOOT tonight. town can afford it. shoot or be known as smashboard's worst **** vig
vig. there is so much scum in this thread i can't handle it. don't be a little ***** vig and SHOOT tonight. town can afford it. shoot or be known as smashboard's worst **** vig
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
Finally read back a bit, sorry about all that.
I'm definitely down for a Macman lynch.
Unrawr Rawr Macman
I'm definitely down for a Macman lynch.
Unrawr Rawr Macman