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Monster Island Mafia- Game over! Town wins!

#HBC | Mac

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what did scumfever do?

extension plawks
rawrity: tigerwoods


how do you know blueyoshi is a townie mr. woods? Why you cheat on your wife?
 

Cacti

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ninja'd.

then how is your reason of scum pushing the lynch valid, if you think that the person that he is pushing the lynch on is scum? wouldn't that make him town in your eyes? What about xivii, who has been pushing for lynches hard, or any other people really, like gheb.
 

TigerWoods

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Yeah it is my first game. >>

What? No... like blue is suspicious due to that self vote thing(indie maybe?) but I don't have sufficient evidence. Anyway scumfever seemed more so because he was aggressively pushing it, and from past games scum didn't seem to be the most agressive of all players....

I don't think Gheb is scum because he has been posting some pretty valid reasons for trying to lynch people. Also, from reading past games with Xiivi in it he has usually been pretty agrressive and also has been town.

Anyway I wouldn't lynch me if I were you, but that's just my opinion. >>

May I ask, why are you voting for me?

AND I DID NOT CHEAT ON MY WIFE. The booze did it.
 

Chaco

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Frozen is inactive all around, killing him would leave us with no information. Kill one of the Yoshis, they seem to have an attachment that will at least give us D2 information.

Request Extension
 

CT Chia

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now I'm all for a deadline extension, but then again isn't that normally only used in special things like a replacement near the deadline or something?
pretty much, what will we get out of the extra days that we couldn't get without the extension?

posting this from my phone, more 2morow
 

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Oops Tiger, misunderstood your 407.

Unvote Tiger

Chaco's 411 is truth, but I've heard legends about Frozen's scumhunting capabilities, and have yet to see anything of the sort. If/when he comes back, I'd better see some active scumhunting, or (judging by other people's recent posts and my feelings) there will be a blitzwagon on him.
 

Circus

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Down for a Tiger or Scumfever lynch right now. Scum was scummy before the Chaco stuff due to his easy hop on Blue and has been passively posting fluff since then. Plus, his flip would do wonders for my view of Chaco. Tiger is still holding that self-vote against Blue, which seems like a reach for a lynch other than himself to me. Blue's early game self-vote was weird and distracting, but Blue feels townie to me overall. Also, his "I wouldn't lynch me if I were you" line rubs me the wrong way entirely. I don't know if this is just his newness or what, but I don't like it.
 

mentosman8

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Down for a Tiger or Scumfever lynch right now. Scum was scummy before the Chaco stuff due to his easy hop on Blue and has been passively posting fluff since then. Plus, his flip would do wonders for my view of Chaco. Tiger is still holding that self-vote against Blue, which seems like a reach for a lynch other than himself to me. Blue's early game self-vote was weird and distracting, but Blue feels townie to me overall. Also, his "I wouldn't lynch me if I were you" line rubs me the wrong way entirely. I don't know if this is just his newness or what, but I don't like it.
Pretty much sums up my thoughts for the moment. Prolly gonna land on Scumfever by the end of the day.
 

#HBC | FrozeηFlame

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Finals are over on thursday but I'll be posting in this game and Left 4 Scum. Weekend project was Newbie and Mafia Tournament, today's is catching up in my other two. Bear with me. >_<
 

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Possibly it's my newness... I wasn't making a threat but now that I read it it seemed as if I did.

I'm not using that first thing as proof he is scum or anything... as I said I really don't know but I do think it was rather strange.

I'm down with a scumfever lynch or whatever really.
 

DtJ Jungle

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I'd like you to point out instances where you think I'm scummy

I'd like Tiger to do this.
 

#HBC | FrozeηFlame

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Alright so, now that I'm all caught up, my top suspects are Cacti, Xiivi and MacMan, in really no particular order.

Cacti's attempt to dismiss the initial discussion surrounding the double voter rubbed me the wrong way. Anyone else who was against discussing that should be looked at with greater scrutiny in my opinion. What advantage is there in trying to keep something like that underwraps? If people aren't aware that there is a double voter, people could "accidentally hammer" and pass it off because they didn't realize that the anonymous vote was there. Furthermore, people could put others at L-1 without realizing the danger of an anonymous hammer (if the double is allowed to do that). Any attempts to stifle discussion about publicly available information (ESPECIALLY something as important as a double voter which has a large impact on how voting plays out during the day) should be checked out and grilled for it. That kind of behavior can not be allowed to slide.

Xiivi is giving me a scum read because of his general "whimsicalness" so to speak. He has initiated/jumped on a handful of wagons all with little to no reasoning. I was especially caught off guard by him initiating the Chaco wagon, since it literally seemed to come out of no where. Basically, I just feel like Xiivi has been a driving/starting force behind a bunch of arbitrary wagons, yet has hidden in the shadows by just fading away after voting during the discussion of almost every one of those wagons. Seems like attempts to drive discussion where he wants and create conflicts that he wants without having his name attached.

Macman caught my eye when he suggested that a cop not CC if another existed in the game after Chaco claimed. (http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9062547&postcount=351) This makes absolutely no sense to me. I'll trade a cop for a scum any day of the week, and I'm sure my fellow townies agree. There is absolutely no reason for a cop NOT to CC chaco if he was lying. To offer such a poor suggestion with no reasoning behind it looks really bad in my book. I was also a bit offset by his "strange" attitude coming into the game. As was previously mentioned, his off color comments almost seemed as if they were designed to establish a very belligerent "pre-alignment" attitude, so that we would attribute any future non-cooperativeness in the future with simply HIM as a PLAYER, but not associate that with any particular alignment.

I'm definitely down with pressuring/discussing any of these three.

Lastly, a few other comments:

I'm getting VERY strong town reads from mentos. His analysis of Chaco's play that he offered post claim was spot on IMO. It can be found here: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9064121&postcount=372 Other than that, not too much specific but he's very low on my scumdar.

Same goes for Gheb. He's just as abrasive as always but he's doing the right things. Though I'm seeing as a general trend, he tends to attack people for their playstyle and/or attitude and not necessarily legit scum tells, but regardless, he's asking good questions and hasn't done anything out of the ordinary. I rarely see eye to eye with him but I'm also getting strong town reads from him, even if I'd like him to focus more on gameplay and less on how he wishes others would play.

The discussion about who we'd want to be with in endgame needs to stop. Now. All you're doing is telling the mafia who to kill off to create a late game with the most distrust and discord. Let's not spoon feed them that luxury and use our head alright?
 

#HBC | FrozeηFlame

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Oh, I also forgot to mention that Xiivi made a ******** comment about someone when he said something like "XXX is at L-3, too bad scum, you missed your chance to quick lynch!" or something like that, and then proceed to (I think) unvote that person. That comment just gave me REALLY bad vibes. Just just something to think about.
 

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Cacti's attempt to dismiss the initial discussion surrounding the double voter rubbed me the wrong way. Anyone else who was against discussing that should be looked at with greater scrutiny in my opinion. What advantage is there in trying to keep something like that underwraps? If people aren't aware that there is a double voter, people could "accidentally hammer" and pass it off because they didn't realize that the anonymous vote was there. Furthermore, people could put others at L-1 without realizing the danger of an anonymous hammer (if the double is allowed to do that). Any attempts to stifle discussion about publicly available information (ESPECIALLY something as important as a double voter which has a large impact on how voting plays out during the day) should be checked out and grilled for it. That kind of behavior can not be allowed to slide.
id say its better to not talk about the double voter too much. yes its good for everybody to know that he exists and what impact he has on the game. but if you look at the amount of players who are new to swf mafia (tiger, kirby, blue, xonar) then its still a good idea to be cautious. depending on their reactions one of those players could actidentally out himself as the double voter and become a huge target for scum. if a particular attentive mafiat notices the different reaction and is able to deduce the identity of the double voter then we might already lose one of our most powerful prs early.
with a double voter being in play in the first place theres a chance that we might face either 4 scumbags or at least a strong 3rd party side. either way you look at it it would be fatal if the identity of the double voter became known publicly this early.


Same goes for Gheb. He's just as abrasive as always but he's doing the right things. Though I'm seeing as a general trend, he tends to attack people for their playstyle and/or attitude and not necessarily legit scum tells, but regardless, he's asking good questions and hasn't done anything out of the ordinary. I rarely see eye to eye with him but I'm also getting strong town reads from him, even if I'd like him to focus more on gameplay and less on how he wishes others would play.
do you think my case against scumfever is based on playstyle? id like you to comment on that (posts #71 and #79 are particularily noteworthy here) because i dont see how this is the case. if its not that i assume that you talk about my complaints about inactivity?

:059:
 

#HBC | marshy

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wait scumacman has the most votes thankfully. more people vote him. if we want to go xiivi/cacti i'm there as well
 

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I'm getting a town read from Cacti, but I'm cool with a Xiivi/Mac lynch.

Oh, and Frozen's town too.

So is Marshy.

And Gheb.
 

Xiivi

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#HBC | ZoZo

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My main scum suspect atm is gheb just because how he posts is how I usually see scum post, but I don't think that's lead enough to vote for him yet.

Cacti is just making himself look scummy like always, but I don't know about going on him.

ATM I'd RAWR on tiger as he's jumping on everything and isn't really contributing etc. so...

RAWR: Tigerwoods
Reply to scumfever! btw I think fever is looking pretty bad atm, fever post some more posts with something actually in it.
 

Circus

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Vote: TigerWoods

Can we get a vote count? I think Tiger's only up to 4 votes right now. Más.
 

#HBC | marshy

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@smashymod: more votecounts plz

updated votecount= said:
You rats...YOU STINKIN' RATS WHAT DID YOU DO TO HER!? Vote/Rawr Count:

Kirbyoshi: (1)

Scumfever: Mentos, Gheb, Cacti, Tigerwoods (4)

Chaco: Chibo (1)

Macman: Scumfever, Marshy, Xiivi (3)

Blueyoshi: Chaco (1)

Tigerwoods: Xonar, Circus, Cacti (3)

Not voting/rawring: frozenflame, Kirbyoshi (1)
i THINK this is the votecount

interested in where chaco, chibo, nonvoters, secret/doublevoter want to go. like that macman/scumfever/tiger have the most votes
 
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