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The Eternal Will of the Swarm
Bowser Jr is deserving of nothing, but this is KING BOWSER we are talking about, not jr.
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Mog for brawl(please close)NEW MOG THREAD!!!
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look its ok if you disagree but THIS IS NOT THE BOWSER THREAD!
stay on topic please.
kupo
vesperview
Smash Hero
Those were the ten Moogles, they were not Mog.
Elysium
Smash Lord
Except in Yellow, where Pika was there no matter what if I remember correctly.
@psycho: My bad, I thought it said Jr.. I fixed it but my statement still stands though. I just hope Gimpy doesn't see it.
blayde_axel
Smash Master
Darnit, I mentioned that, but I deleted it! Thanks. lol.
Well, yeah, it had to do with the popularity of the show, of course. So that's why they made yellow.
Elysium
Smash Lord
blayde_axel
Smash Master
ANYWAY! lol. The point was you can't compare Pokemon to Final Fantasy.
The basis for characters for Pokemon would be merely popularity. (Except for certain ones. Like Mewtwo or Lucario. Most legendaries could never be characters, anyway.)
The basis for characters for pretty much ANY other game would be relevance. And some popularity, of course.
The basis for characters for Pokemon would be merely popularity. (Except for certain ones. Like Mewtwo or Lucario. Most legendaries could never be characters, anyway.)
The basis for characters for pretty much ANY other game would be relevance. And some popularity, of course.
Elysium
Smash Lord
hey so I was part right. cool!
Also I agree you can't compare Pokemon to FF. FF is like right here *hold hand high* and Pokemon is right here *holds hand lower*.
vesperview
Smash Hero
Sorry, it's hard to keep track of which Mog is Mog among ten moogles, still, don't reply until you have a good reason for Mog to be in Brawl, cause you haven't delivered one yet.
Be that as it may, the Pokemon Trainer was still the lead of the game and was actually playable to an extent (exploration, interaction, and Pokeball usage). Without a Pokemon Trainer, you can't be a Pokemon Master (selling point of the game & point of the game).
The pokemon are not main characters and have no true relevance to the game (and still don't no matter how much you use and level them up), but Pokemon Trainer and Gym Leaders Mysty & Brock, the Elite Four, and Gary (Pokemon Trainer's rival in Blue/Red) are main characters and they do have relevance. You don't create a pokemon's relevance to the game, because no matter how much you level up Pikachu, he will never challenge a gym leader to a battle nor will he explore the Pokemon world and catch all 500+ pokemon for you. The pokemon are just instruments that the pokemon trainers use to heighten their standing in the competitive pokemon battling scene.
In the end, there was every reason to include Pokemon Trainer seeing how the trainer is undeniably a huge symbol of what the Pokemon universe is all about and as such is the reason why Pokemon games are structured the way they are.
Pokemon Trainer actually HAS relevance to the story and the game. You know this, but brush it aside just because he is only playable to an extent.
You came away from your argument saying that the pokemon are not main characters with created relevance only to come back and say supporting characters won't be chosen over main ones? The pokemon ARE supporting characters and whether you like it or not, Pokemon trainer was and still is the captain of the ship.
vesperview
Smash Hero
Krystal, you obviously haven't watched the Pokemon anime nor the movies to be drawing such ridiculous comparisons.
The Brawl character selection process isn't based on the Pokemon anime. If that was the case Sakurai would have put Ash instead of "Pokemon Trainer".
vesperview
Smash Hero
Would Pikachu be relevant in Smash without the anime? Would Jigglypuff be relevant in Smash without the anime? Would Mewtwo be relevant in Smash without the movie? The only game oriented character is by far Pokemon Trainer, all of the others have gotten in based on the popularity of the anime or the movies, not to mention Squirtle, Ivysaur and Charizard had important roles in the anime, Pokemon aren't solely based on the games, otherwise Deoxys, Lucario and Darkrai wouldn't be held in such high regard to be considered playable, although Deoxys was pokeballed.
blayde_axel
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Platnum, just to let you know, we were comparing Pokemon and Final Fantasy. We ARE on topic.
Anyway, the third party slots are limited, so Mog's chances are shot to hell, anyway. So far, they've been IMPORTANT characters. Characters you actually play as through most of the game that aren't optional.
I just don't want you guys to be disappointed when he's not in.
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That ain't on topic, go compare them somewhere else, right boss?
Elysium
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...... ...... ....... ? Is that on topic?
DarkVision
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Your using that in the wrong context...
Anyway, ha! Say the interview is FALSE after saying that quote!
blayde_axel
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...You guys are ridiculous...
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But not u, who believes pokemon is the same as FF?
blayde_axel
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No... it's not...
From what I've seen, trolling is saying a character "sucks" without giving any decent proof. Just being a complete d***, basically.
Did I do that? No. I gave reason. More than decent reason.
Three-Party character slots are limited, thus they would have to be truly important to be considered. Is Mog important? NO! He was NOT the main character. He was no where NEAR the main character. He was OPTIONAL! He did NOTHING of importance besides when he helps Locke (Or Sabin. Can't remember) save Terra. THAT'S IT!
Compare him to the near hundreds of other FF characters more qualified than him and he has NO CHANCE! How hard is that to understand?
BTW, I never said they were the same! Jesus, you people...
From what I've seen, trolling is saying a character "sucks" without giving any decent proof. Just being a complete d***, basically.
Did I do that? No. I gave reason. More than decent reason.
Three-Party character slots are limited, thus they would have to be truly important to be considered. Is Mog important? NO! He was NOT the main character. He was no where NEAR the main character. He was OPTIONAL! He did NOTHING of importance besides when he helps Locke (Or Sabin. Can't remember) save Terra. THAT'S IT!
Compare him to the near hundreds of other FF characters more qualified than him and he has NO CHANCE! How hard is that to understand?
BTW, I never said they were the same! Jesus, you people...
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1st off, sorry, U didn't use the same, I know..
But who's to say a rep has to be "important"? Or if a rep IS important?
Was Pichu that important? Is squirtle important?
And the hundreds of other more qualified than him are people's opinions! Not facts!
But who's to say a rep has to be "important"? Or if a rep IS important?
Was Pichu that important? Is squirtle important?
And the hundreds of other more qualified than him are people's opinions! Not facts!
Elysium
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I got you. I see what you were saying from the start.
Explaining the difference between two different series :: Too much
Trying to explain that a character holds extremely minimal importance in a series :: Too much
Dealing with thick-skulled individuals :: Too much
That post :: Priceless
Wow, plain and simple. Blayde tries to explain something, and thats how you respond after giving Blayde a hard time. wowDarkVision
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THEY are 1st party, Mog is 3rd. THAT'S the difference
that matters why?
DarkVision
Smash Journeyman
Because, they have to PAY to get 3rd party...a lot, and it's from Square-Enix.
If they have to spend money, it will be for a character that will get them money
advice:dont say hes unlikly mithout giving a reason.
read the 1st post!
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And this is spam, note that is from this page alone. You wonder why people don't like you Platnum. Can we please just ban Platnum and get on with our lives?
lukintosh
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I wanna be a mog squad member!
vesperview
Smash Hero
How are those examples even relevant? Pichu is very similar to Pikachu, thus, he was in, Squirtle is important and as long as the most important (Pikachu), has made it, any character from his series can, Mog wouldn't be the first option for an FF rep by far.
Wu Tang Gang
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Pichu was in because of rising popularity because of the many cameos Pichu had in the anime and movies. Not for being a Pikachu look-alike. But anyways, yeah, Mogs are generic, and never had a game with a major role, or even a memerable role. Chocobos are like the Yoshis of FF, even THEY have a better chance.
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