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[CT Chia]

It's not a power I'm forced to use. I can choose not to use an action, and I have three different ones. I chose to use that at a less risky time early game because I thought he may be scum and to get reactions (there weren't any really though).

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Chibo, are your powers one shot or not. A simple yes or no will do.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Chibo I just saw you viewing the thread, I need an answer from you

 

[Dooms]

Well first, none of the roles claimed so far have anything strong backed up towards them. I see why John wouldn't respond to T-block about Acrostic being killed if he was a doctor, I see why you would have T-block as auto town and why you would want John lynched if you were a doctor, and I see why Chibo would go after you and not after John at all if he was a cop.

The only thing that benefits voting you over voting John/Chibo is that I don't have a connection with you unless it was T-block, but even then that's a very weak connection, versus Chibo/John who are basically clearing themselves. If you're not scum, then we can force a lynch on Chibo/John (Chibo being the first to go, since he may still have that ability to stop votes). Actually...

T-block: How do you feel about voting Chibo? If Chibo flips town, we'll lynch Glyph. Sound fair?

 

[Dooms]

By the way, Kantrip needs to be on whatever wagon we go with.

 

[CT Chia]

im mobile now (still on vaca in disney). as said, they are all one shot. joey also pointed this out.

why are you so worried and super skimming?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Just making sure I understand everything correctly Chibo.

I'd like you to walk us through your train of thought as to how taking the vote away from someone you think might be scum is a smart thing to do.

And then I want to to explain why you copped John, if you had a town read on him before this night.

And then I want to you to explain how it makes sense for town to even have a PR that takes away its only means of killing scum.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

John, lets hear your thoughts on Chibo while you're viewing the thread. I know you've enjoyed being able to slip back into the background and all, but sometimes people will call you out on that.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Joey it makes much more sense to lynch John first, since even if Chibo does take away a vote, town still would have a vast majority

 

[CT Chia]

of my powers, i decided i wanted to use my vote block first since it had the least impact. of my two leads (tblock and kantrip) i felt the one who would more react to it would b kantrip, tb would keep his cool. besides reaction, taking a vote from someone u think is scum is good to help prevent them from lynching town.

 

[CT Chia]

Joey it makes much more sense to lynch John first, since even if Chibo does take away a vote, town still would have a vast majority

i cant, the power is used. one of the counterclaims needs to go.

 

[John2k4]

Working on cars, but a quick response:
He was saying in his mass read a while back that I would be a good cop choice. If you are trying to lynch him now before yourself, and he flips town, that would be a bad loss for town. Makes sense for GlyphScum trying to kill another townie before he is killed.

 

[Dooms]

Joey it makes much more sense to lynch John first, since even if Chibo does take away a vote, town still would have a vast majority

Oh, do we have 8 right now? I thought we had 7...

 

[CT Chia]

i copped john because i doubted my read on him from early on. even as u called me out on it, cause he wasputting himself out there? thqats it? it was a strong gut reaction i had and i wanted it confirmed to not cloud my judgement later.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

of my powers, i decided i wanted to use my vote block first since it had the least impact. of my two leads (tblock and kantrip) i felt the one who would more react to it would b kantrip, tb would keep his cool. besides reaction, taking a vote from someone u think is scum is good to help prevent them from lynching town.

LEAST IMPACT?! Town losing a vote is HUGELY detrimental when wagons are split. You saying you used it to get reads is bull****, even if you were to get reads out of it you were taking a vote that could have been needed later on out of play. I literally have no idea how anyone could look at that power and think 'oh yeah, that's something town would have'.

i cant, the power is used. one of the counterclaims needs to go.

Assuming you're telling the truth of course.

Say Chibo, how do you know your cop result is accurate? Is your sanity confirmed? Are you positive there's no redirector in play?

Working on cars, but a quick response:
He was saying in his mass read a while back that I would be a good cop choice. If you are trying to lynch him now before yourself, and he flips town, that would be a bad loss for town. Makes sense for GlyphScum trying to kill another townie before he is killed.

It also makes sense for a scummate to say that about their partner, so if the real cop does stumble onto them it looks good for them.

And say, that's an awfully specific fact to remember from just coming inside from working on cars with a quick response.



Really Joey I can't believe you're not dead sold on these two being scum, especially after the fun stuff that went down right after John CC'd and didn't have doc information in his role PM.

 

[CT Chia]

ask the mod, not me. iv personally seen games w/ them as town and as scum. as explained two posts ago, there are town benefits to it. not to mention its one shot from only one person.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Oh, do we have 8 right now? I thought we had 7...

I'm talking from a vote stand point.

And yes, we have 8 people alive.

Chibo, you've already talked about thinking T-Block and Kantrip could be scum. You had a cop ability at your disposal. But rather than use it and confirm your suspicious, you first take away the vote of one of those players, and then go on to use your one shot cop power ON A TOWN READ. JUST TO BE REALLY SURE HE'S TOWN.

It puts a smile on my face when you've set yourself up for fun stuff like this Chibo

 

[Dooms]

Nevermind @ Chibo lynch then.

 

[CT Chia]

least impact as in less used the earlier its used.

stop shifting the conversation. if a vote blocker is town or scum? whats important is the counterclaim and who to get rid of, but i can understand u trying to shift discussion off u lol

oh and remember? im not a vote blocker... a vote blocker in itself would prob be more scum. im a jack of all trades and one of my three powers is a vote block. joat is a town role, and u know that.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

JoaT is most definitely NOT a town role, it can be either scum or town very easily depending on the powers assigned to it. The ONLY power we know for sure you have is the one that is ridiculously scummy.

Chibo this discussion is all about me and John, your 'cop' result on his is what sparked this whole debate.

 

[CT Chia]

It puts a smile on my face when you've set yourself up for fun stuff like this Chibo

I'm not trying to set myself up for anything. You're just trying to spin my truth to sound bad.

Whether or not it sounds bad, it's the truth

 

[CT Chia]

how do you know for sure i vote blocked him? how can u trust me?

and a scum joat... really? like scum needs more power? you're reaching just trying to do whatever u can to prove me wrong.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Who the hell else would have, and **** yeah a scum joat is a possible thing. Are you saying scum is already overpowered in this game?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Chibo I'm still waiting on an answer as to why you used your one shot cop power on a town read when you were willing to use another power on scum reads.

 

[Jim Morrison]

not even gonna read this ****, but Joat (cop, voteblock, and what else?), Doc, serial killer finder and roleblocker without everyone having claimed? I don't buy this **** for one second, and even less that you investigated John, since I'm an investigative already.

If John is voted off, about every role will be confirmed or deconfirmed, let's just do that.

 

[Jim Morrison]

I also breadcrumbed this roll. I don't have the exact link atm, but in all my random MvC3 talk, I mentioned using Spencer, who is famous for his Bionic Arm attack. I don't play Spencer at all. My team is Wright/Sent/Nemesis or GhostRider/Sent/Nemesis. I said Spencer just to drop the Bionic hint.

Also, ROLFOFLSDAOFLAFOL at this breadcrumb and how far out it is.

 

[Dooms]

not even gonna read this ****, but Joat (cop, voteblock, and what else?), Doc, serial killer finder and roleblocker without everyone having claimed? I don't buy this **** for one second, and even less that you investigated John, since I'm an investigative already.

If John is voted off, about every role will be confirmed or deconfirmed, let's just do that.

It isn't as unbalanced as you make it look.

We don't know what else scum has, and the voteblock could have been used as a nerf to town and to Chibo's ability.

 

[Jim Morrison]

dun matter, lynch john

 

[CT Chia]

Glyph I explained exactly why I copped him.

mod votecount plz

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I know you did, I'm just saying you reason is garbage and made up.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Chibo I'm still waiting on an answer as to why you used your one shot cop power on a town read when you were willing to use another power on scum reads.

I know you did, I'm just saying you reason is garbage and made up.

Say that in the first place then, instead of saying you're waiting for an answer that has already been given.

 

[T-block]

skimmed briefly

we're lynching john. even if he's town, townjohn is something i would gladly trade for glyphscum

chibo, i really don't want to believe your claim. why would you decide to use the voteblock ability when you did? seems like a waste.

going back to read now.

 

[T-block]

In the process of re-reading, specifically seeing how Raziek's and T-Block's interactions went down.

This should explain how it's going so far:

Vote: T-block

Drinks Drinks Drinks! It is now Day 2.1

1. Vinyl. [0]
2. John2k4 [0]
3. vVv Chibosempai [0]
4. Pluvia [0]
5. Gustave [1] T-Block,
6. JO_OEY [0]
7. RocketPSIence [0]
8. T-Block [0]
9. Kantrip [1] Vinyl.

Note Voting: Gustave, JO_OEY, vVv Chibosempai, Pluvia, RocketPSIence, John2k4,

Deadline is set to December 2nd 11:59 PM CST. It takes 5/9 to lynch.

@mod: Can you confirm that this votecount was correct, taking into account the first post?

Kantrip, were you notified of a voteblock?

 

[T-block]

Honestly, John being a doc and Chibo being a JoaT explains everything so well. Either they're scum buddies, one of them is completely ********, or they're telling the truth. I'm inclined to believe they're telling the truth simply because of the fact that if they're not, then we've pretty much netted two scum.

Vote: Glyph

when it comes to mafia, both of them are basically ********, so yeah

consider that we basically had them pinned already anyways. it could easily be a full-out desperation claim, because if they didn't do anything they would have both been lynched anyways.

 

[T-block]

Also note how I didn't like Kantrip day 1. Hence why I chose to take it away.

It's not just to take a townie's vote away Glyph lmao, that's your defense?

It's to take away influence from people who you think might be scum. aka also lining up with my belief of how I "stopped" you from talking earlier today.

as i said, i don't like this

why would you take away someone's vote just because you didn't like them, ESPECIALLY so early in the game where one player's vote doesn't matter as much, and ESPECIALLY when the power is one-shot?

i think you're desperate to prove your fakeclaim so you try to throw out as much as you can.

 

[T-block]

It's not a power I'm forced to use. I can choose not to use an action, and I have three different ones. I chose to use that at a less risky time early game because I thought he may be scum and to get reactions (there weren't any really though).

bull****

you want reactions you would push it. you didn't mention anything at all. plus, i don't see how you would get reactions from a voteblock anyways -_-

 

[T-block]

T-block: How do you feel about voting Chibo? If Chibo flips town, we'll lynch Glyph. Sound fair?

Nope. John needs to go. I wouldn't be worried about the voteblocking quite yet.

John has been scummy as hell on top of all of this. Moreso than Chibo.

 

[T-block]

how do you know for sure i vote blocked him? how can u trust me?

and a scum joat... really? like scum needs more power? you're reaching just trying to do whatever u can to prove me wrong.

Scum JoaT is a thing.

I see some of the stuff I brought up has been addressed.

Still want to know why you thought it would be good to use a ONE-SHOT power like a voteblock early in the game.

Glyph's got pretty much everything else covered. The claim doesn't really line up with his reads and actions.

 

[Dooms]

Vote: John

Too many people want John dead for us to pull a lynch off on Glyph. :v.

 

[T-block]

I think Kantrip is in a play or something, and won't be back until Sunday.

Just an aside:

First time I read this, I thought John was suggesting Kantrip should be lynched (Kantrip is "the play"). That's why I found it funny lol