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[Jim Morrison]

I am Crimson King, Town Doctor. Each night I can protect someone. Night 1 I protected Acrostic, and Night 2 I protected Chibo.
This is why I kept trying to bring up the Night Kill, T-Block - I had sent in a protection for Acrostic, and yet he was killed; I wanted to try to figure out if scum had a roleblocker or something that stopped my protection.

I think this does sound like something John would do.

But this is too interesting to pass up. I'm going to assume there are 2 scum (or the game would be ********). That means we still have another Day. If we lynch one of the claimed docs, and it's the real doc, the other one is scum. If Glyph is scum, then T-block is scum in my book. John would be cleared, Chibo would cleared.
If John is scum we'd have nailed one and might have also found the second scum.

I'm fine with a John lynch, I think after a lynch I can post more concise thoughts.

Oh and also we have a roleblocker, since both docs claim protects that are not Kantrip, so someone roleblocked me (not sure why they would...). This means it's probably a mafia roleblocker, instead of town roleblocker.
But this is speculation.

Vote: John

Down for a lynch.

 

[John2k4]

I've been trying to say there was a roleblocker...

And what did they block you from doing [with Kantrip]?

 

[CT Chia]

I still don't even know the case for John tbh.

I have posted town reads on him, starting from the first day or so I replaced in. I can find more but I am heading out soon (still on vaca as I mentioned). To sum it up: Most of his idiotic call outs are so self opinionated and off the wall, that it would be ridiculous to consider him working on a team where other people could help him make more sense. Not to mention I don't think anyone would put themselves in the spotlight like that as scum, trying to form new bombastic cases that don't make sense.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

WOW John rolefish a little harder why don't you.

Guus, obviously don't answer that.

 

[Jim Morrison]

I've been trying to say there was a roleblocker...

And what did they block you from doing [with Kantrip]?

Geez, if you'd read a tiny bit of the game, you'd know I've already claimed my role on D2 jesus christ.

 

[Jim Morrison]

I still don't even know the case for John tbh.

I have posted town reads on him, starting from the first day or so I replaced in. I can find more but I am heading out soon (still on vaca as I mentioned). To sum it up: Most of his idiotic call outs are so self opinionated and off the wall, that it would be ridiculous to consider him working on a team where other people could help him make more sense. Not to mention I don't think anyone would put themselves in the spotlight like that as scum, trying to form new bombastic cases that don't make sense.

He never intented to make the case, not until after he was asked by people to post REASONS for why he was voting. THEN he came up with the case. It wasn't his initiative.

Also, if you want the case on him, read back to D2, I already posted my case on John there. I'm not finding the post for you, it's a huge post and his name is bolded red.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I still don't even know the case for John tbh.

Gee you sure are familiar with the post I made before it though!

I have posted town reads on him, starting from the first day or so I replaced in.

I may not know anything about why John is scum, but I SURE as hell am glad to call him town without understanding anything and without reason. Good work, Chibo!

I can find more but I am heading out soon (still on vaca as I mentioned). To sum it up: Most of his idiotic call outs are so self opinionated and off the wall, that it would be ridiculous to consider him working on a team where other people could help him make more sense.

So he's town because he's so out there that he couldn't be scum?

Not to mention I don't think anyone would put themselves in the spotlight like that as scum, trying to form new bombastic cases that don't make sense.

Have you SEEN my play? I would argue that not a single player is more 'out there' than I am recently.

John, on the other hand, had made two posts today before I claimed. He's really soaking up the limelight!

 

[T-block]

Are you flippin' kidding me

I tried to make sure you specifically would read it -_-

vVv ChiboSempai

Just making sure you read this post =) This is actually @everyone.

Watch these posts by John:



This is garbage reasoning. For those of you without the background, in Housepets, I was scum and led super headstrong pushes on town members and achieved their lynches. Nobody really thought I was scum for it, but instead were more like "lol T-block's reads are so off this game". That's what he's referring to. Comparing this to Housepets on the basis of seeing two "mislynches" is crap because of two reasons. One, the Raziek lynch was NOT a mislynch. Yes, mafia would think Raziek is town, but everyone is so caught up in that possibility that they're not appreciating that town thinks Raziek is scum too. Then, there is nothing to suggest that it really is scum looking for mislynches rather than town with a read that is off. I can see the suspicion being justified, but NO WAY is there enough information for John to be able to say he "wants me dead fast".

But I might even be fine with that if John thought Gustave was town. Then I'd be the one pushing for his town read to be lynched. But he doesn't. Look at this post:



He thinks Gustave is scum. He agrees with my case. And yet he thinks I would be scum if Gustave flipped town.

Sorry John, that's not how it works. If you not only agree with my read, but also agree with my case, then you think the case is based on logic and sound reasoning, which is exactly what town is supposed to do. This is the very definition of setting up a mislynch. You support Gustave's lynch because you think you can use it to springboard onto my lynch toMorrow. You can't say you agree with the case and then say I'm scum if it's wrong. Town mentality doesn't do that. But you wouldn't know town mentality because you're scum.

John2k4

I've given you at least two opportunities now to talk about Acrostic's flip, a direction you so strongly wanted town to take earlier in the Day. Why have you ignored those opportunities?

 

[Jim Morrison]

WOW John rolefish a little harder why don't you.

Guus, obviously don't answer that.

Btw, for Glyph, who wasn't there on D2, I claimed FBI agent, I can investigate someone each night to see if they're serial killer or not. Since Raziek died on D1, my role was pretty useless.

It now makes sense that I was blocked, John already forgot what my role was. And Chibo probably didn't even read my claim.

And here's a link to the post where I made my case against John, read the rest of the page for my second post.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13727336&postcount=764

 

[T-block]

It now makes sense that I was blocked, John already forgot what my role was. And Chibo probably didn't even read my claim.

I literally just burst out laughing.

People are looking at me funny.

Oh god if this is the case that'd be soooo good.

 

[Jim Morrison]

I'd be so disappointed in scum that they lost because of skimming.

But let's not run in front of our horses here (yeah i made that up dwi)

 

[Dooms]

Super concise summary of recent things with no opinion involved:

Glyph claimed Xiivi, Town Doc.
John CC'd Crimson King, Town Doc.

And this excerpt from Glyph's post:



Yea that.

And now, my take on it.

So basically, one of these two are going to die because of the counter claiming. Who dies though is the question. I've had a town read on John most of the game, and somewhat a scum read on Glyph - so this matches up fairly well since one of the two are lying.

Now take the slip there into consideration. So who goes?

You are older than 12, right?

unvote

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Joey we could use your vote on John

 

[Jim Morrison]

T-Block, I know you remember my trying to question the Night Kill when Acrostic was killed - it was specifically because I had sent in the protect for him, and was trying to figure out why he was still killed.

Yup and later on T-block asked you to talk about the night kill you wanted to talk about so eagerly, but you didn't even respond.

 

[Dooms]

Do I want to hammer yet? o_O'.

Or is he at L-2? All of the unvoting/revoting has me lost.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Just vote the poor kid, he's at L-2 according to T-block.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Chibo, redeem yourself and hammer John!

 

[Dooms]

Vote: John

 

[John2k4]

That's L-1.
I'm seriously going to be mad if Glyph gets away with killing the Doc like this.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Well if it's any consolation, Glyph will be lynched if you turn up doc!

 

[CT Chia]

Guys, I'm telling you, Glyph is the scum.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Guys, I'm telling you, Glyph is the scum.

Well, I'm sold, I'll have fifteen of them.

 

[CT Chia]

I don't get it...

 

[Jim Morrison]

It means your argument is very compelling and made me rethink my whole stance.

 

[CT Chia]

Fifteen of what though lol.

And I'm not kidding

 

[Jim Morrison]

I'm not going to explain, just trust me when I say it was a joke and had nothing to do with the game.

 

[CT Chia]

Geez fine, been trying to hold off on this.

It's not a bad move now though, since we are progressing through the game and it's not too early now. I was hoping I wouldn't have to do this with how ridiculous this counterclaim situation is and hoping people would lynch Glyph and not John...

I am Bionic, Town Jack of All Trades. I have a few powers, all one shot type.
One of my powers is a cop power, to which I investigated John last night and got town. That's how I've been confident in him today and have been on his side of the counter claim.

To further prove this, I will reveal another one of my powers - one shot vote block. Person I use it on can't vote next day. Night 1 I used it on Kantrip. Go look at the vote counts. He voted early on in the day, and despite that, his vote wasn't counted. That was me in the action.

I have another power, but it would not be wise for me to reveal it at this time.

I also breadcrumbed this roll. I don't have the exact link atm, but in all my random MvC3 talk, I mentioned using Spencer, who is famous for his Bionic Arm attack. I don't play Spencer at all. My team is Wright/Sent/Nemesis or GhostRider/Sent/Nemesis. I said Spencer just to drop the Bionic hint.

 

[Dooms]

Unvote

...

 

[Dooms]

Vote: Glyph

Damn. I can't believe I was tricked that hard.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Joey you gotta be kidding me

 

[Dooms]

His role can't be proven wrong.

Unvote

T-block, thoughts? You're pretty much the only person I trust right now... @_@'.

 

[Dooms]

Honestly, John being a doc and Chibo being a JoaT explains everything so well. Either they're scum buddies, one of them is completely ********, or they're telling the truth. I'm inclined to believe they're telling the truth simply because of the fact that if they're not, then we've pretty much netted two scum.

Vote: Glyph

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

How is taking someone's vote away a town PR in any way. The cop **** is clearly made up to save John (notice how it just happens to fit in with the way things have been going ever so nicely).

Joey you need to think about this a little harder instead of seeing a claim and instantly assuming its true.

 

[Dooms]

It lines up with his actions so well, though.

Ugh. Unvote

We have four days, so yeah, I'm gonna think through some stuff.

 

[CT Chia]

Also note how I didn't like Kantrip day 1. Hence why I chose to take it away.

It's not just to take a townie's vote away Glyph lmao, that's your defense?

It's to take away influence from people who you think might be scum. aka also lining up with my belief of how I "stopped" you from talking earlier today.

 

[Dooms]

Geez fine, been trying to hold off on this.

It's not a bad move now though, since we are progressing through the game and it's not too early now. I was hoping I wouldn't have to do this with how ridiculous this counterclaim situation is and hoping people would lynch Glyph and not John...

I am Bionic, Town Jack of All Trades. I have a few powers, all one shot type.
One of my powers is a cop power, to which I investigated John last night and got town. That's how I've been confident in him today and have been on his side of the counter claim.

To further prove this, I will reveal another one of my powers - one shot vote block. Person I use it on can't vote next day. Night 1 I used it on Kantrip. Go look at the vote counts. He voted early on in the day, and despite that, his vote wasn't counted. That was me in the action.

I have another power, but it would not be wise for me to reveal it at this time.

I also breadcrumbed this roll. I don't have the exact link atm, but in all my random MvC3 talk, I mentioned using Spencer, who is famous for his Bionic Arm attack. I don't play Spencer at all. My team is Wright/Sent/Nemesis or GhostRider/Sent/Nemesis. I said Spencer just to drop the Bionic hint.

You're as good as dead if we don't hit the Role Blocker, so you might as well reveal the last part of your role. If we hit the Role Blocker, then it won't matter if all of your role is revealed or not because no one can do anything about it.

Are all of your abilities one-time only?

 

[Dooms]

Nevermind @ last part. I'm a huge derp.

 

[CT Chia]

This is keeping the doc alive, so I shouldn't die that way. I know the implications of roleblocking on my role.

All of this considered, I have a plan with my last power that is best left hidden. I can say what it is tomorrow.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Chibo I'm pretty sure everyone here has told you how stupid of you it was to 'stop' me earlier today.

And no, taking votes away is really not ever going to be a good thing, much less something town would want thrown out there.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Joey I can't believe how deeply your buying into this claim. The only actual crumb he left is flavor related and has zero bearing on his role. Vote blocker is NEVER going to be a town role, and his cop result is exactly what he would need to save John who was already in hot water.

How are you not seeing how this is a load of bull****.