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[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Vote: John

Too many people want John dead for us to pull a lynch off on Glyph. :v.

Joey do you honestly and truly think I'm not the doc?

 

[T-block]

John L-1 fyi

 

[Dooms]

Joey do you honestly and truly think I'm not the doc?

I don't know why, but I honestly believe Chibo. Call it a feel, I guess.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

To each their own

 

[CT Chia]

I don't know why, but I honestly believe Chibo. Call it a feel, I guess.

If you believe me why would you vote John?

Don't think of this as trading a town john for a glyph scum... john is the doc... BIG DIFFERENCE

what backup do we have for glyph? nothing. john not only counterclaimed but also everything from me to back it up.

not to mention with all of this is glyph's slip on the number of scum, which btw tblock is completely differ than gustave's case

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Chibo you're a broken record champ hahaha

You literally don't even mention either mine or John's play at all. You're expecting people to follow you solely off a cop claim that we've already established is probably fake.

 

[CT Chia]

i just reread the claims...

big problem here

if there's only 2 scum in the game here, is it john and pluvia or me and pluvia? according to u it cqant be all 3. you're whole case is based around pluvia soooo... what? does that mean im town? but that would mean im not lying? which would mean john is town.

so what is it glyph? you're whole case on pluvia is ruined, so what was the point of you claiming?

why did u have to wait originally for me to say something before u revealed your doc stuff?

there's sense behind the claims behind me and john. now without pluvia, your whole case is ruined.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

My case is very much intact, and the fact that you'd try to dispute it on such a technicality is laughable.

True, there's probably only two scum left. John is one of them, that's clear from the CC. You're next in line from the sheer levels of stupidity of your claim and how tightly you've clung to using your one shot cop ability on a town read.

Should one of the two flip town, then we lynch Pluvia on the basis of my initial case. Its really not that complex.

 

[John2k4]

Seriously, don't let Glyph pull this crap - leaving him until tomorrow will likely result in two townies being killed, since the Doc (me) would be lynched, and then a townie will die overnight since we will have lost the Doc.

I must give you credit, Glyph, you've got yourself leading some sheep.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

John if you were town why would you even make such a shallow attempt to undermine my credibility like that. You've provided zero reasoning as to WHY you're the doc, same for why I am not. You're just coasting on Chibo's 'innocent' and that's pretty much it.

 

[T-block]

no one has brought up the fact that because no one died, john must have protected the right person. That means scum tried to kill chibo. CHIBO

no scum team would want chibo dead lol

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Okay, lets break this down a little bit.

Say we lynch John today and he flips scum. We then know:
Chibo is lying
Glyph is doc
T-Block is confirmed town

A strong connection for the final scum and two confirmed town players, not bad.

If John flips doc, then we know:
Glyph is scum
Chibo is null (protecting a townie=/=being townie)

And that's about it as far as connections go there. Regardless of the flip, we get a great indication as to who is going to be scum as the game goes on.

I don't see any reason not to.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Loooool did not even consider that T-block

Someone hammer so we can be done with this mess already

 

[John2k4]

What in the world do you mean 'why' I am Doc?
Ummmm because that's what was sent to me..?

You are not Doc because you decided to risk claiming a PR, and I CC'ed you on it.
I have not played a game with you yet, I believe, but I'll bet my hat that you are banking on your strong Mafia meta to get you out of this one.

If town lynches me now, we are practically screwed since the Doc will be gone.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

What in the world do you mean 'why' I am Doc?
Ummmm because that's what was sent to me..?

Haaaaahahhahahaha wow good work convincing me. You've done nothing this game to indicate you were doctor. In fact, you said you protected CHIBO last night. The guy who, oh my gosh, just happened to also cop you! What a coincidence!

You are not Doc because you decided to risk claiming a PR, and I CC'ed you on it.

Again, this proves nothing against me.

I have not played a game with you yet, I believe, but I'll bet my hat that you are banking on your strong Mafia meta to get you out of this one.

Honestly my meta is that I'm a guy who will replace into a game and **** around. Not the strongest thing to have backing you.

Unless you're referring to the fact that I'm generally a smart guy who can put pieces of a puzzle together (though sometimes when they're thrown in my face its hard to not), in which case I thank you for the complement and assure you I have that reputation for a reason.

If town lynches me now, we are practically screwed since the Doc will be gone.

Second time you're posted how horrible things are going to be if you die instead of producing actual arguments.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Also, I'll take you up on that bet. If you're the doc, you keep your hat. If not, I get it. Sound fair?

 

[John2k4]

Sure; If town really lynches me over you, you get a TF2 hat.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Thats not what i said, but close enough

 

[Dooms]

My case is very much intact, and the fact that you'd try to dispute it on such a technicality is laughable.

True, there's probably only two scum left. John is one of them, that's clear from the CC. You're next in line from the sheer levels of stupidity of your claim and how tightly you've clung to using your one shot cop ability on a town read.

Should one of the two flip town, then we lynch Pluvia on the basis of my initial case. Its really not that complex.

Of course, unless it's John that flips town. Then you're dead. Can't forget about that!

 

[Dooms]

John if you were town why would you even make such a shallow attempt to undermine my credibility like that. You've provided zero reasoning as to WHY you're the doc, same for why I am not. You're just coasting on Chibo's 'innocent' and that's pretty much it.

Unvote

Why are you the doctor?

Why is John not the doctor?

 

[Dooms]

(I unvoted because there are 4 days left and we can still use at least one of them.)

 

[Pluvia]

You people, so much pages and I'm a bit drunk but even I can see Glyph's bull**** from here. Look I'll go back and quote it.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Joey it doesn't matter at this point, my defense isn't solely that I'm the doc at this point. I have worked hard to pin scum and its pretty clear at this point that John has no defense other that Chibo. I can't fathom how you see town in either of them, but John needs to be the lynch today. I have covered why so many times now that i'm getting tired of repeating it.

We've been at a standstill since me and T-block showed Chibo's and john's night actions were totally false. There is no reason for this day to go on any longer

 

[T-block]

Town won't be screwed. We would lynch glyph d4, and be left with only one scum left for d5. Very winnable

what is the reasoning behind your protect choices, John?

 

[Pluvia]

Okay, actually Chibo's reluctance to do anything is good enough for me. I'll keep this short and sweet.

I am Xiivi, Town Doctor. But why would I claim right now? Not only am I clearing a townie (any myself when no one CC's), but I also set a little something up to look for mafia.

Last night, I protected T-Block. Since this is an open setup, we can conclude that there were three players in this game who knew T-Block should have been killed: Myself and two mafia. Look back at how I started the day off.



The whoooooole point of this post was to set off alarm bells in scum's heads. The then the next problem is...

WHO



WOULD BE CONCERNED



WITH ME LIKING T-BLOCK SO SUDDENLY



AND SEEMINGLY ABSOLUTELY





You're right Pluvia, I WAS withholding something! Its my vote, for you!

vote: Pluvia

Town had absolutely no reason to have any issues with me liking T-Block, especially when I was telling everyone it was drawn from a reread. Pluvia was the only one who was vocal about the whole ordeal from the start. Punch those numbers in your calculator and you get a smiley face.


Oh, and bonus post!



Chibo is probably scum too.



So, in closing:
Pluvia/Chibo - Scum
T-Block - Cleared Town
Glyph - Either going to be cleared town, or draw out a scum member via CC

Have fun with this one

Look at this. Lets brake it down.

Glyph suddenly says at the start of the day he trusts TB.

I question why.

He refuses to answer, TB tells me to stop asking.

I question why. He refuses to answer unless something about Chibo having to drag attention away from him happens.

I question why. Glyph suddenly goes "I'm a doctor and for some reason I couldn't say this earlier and the guy that was questioning me is scum guys lets totally lynch him for asking questions."

TB more or less backs him up.

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Seriously how could no one see this? Not only that but Chibo investigated John and he turned up as town.

You are falling for Glyph's nonesense. His entire argument against me relied on TB getting his back and the fact that I asked a question he refused to answer. John's argument relies on Chibo investigating him and revealing him to be town.

Which one seems more likely to be the doctor from deducing this information? John. Glyph is just talking utter nonesense.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Pluvia you should not worry about stupid stuff and vote John.

 

[Dooms]

Your Pluvia case on re-read makes it harder to see town Glyph.

Vote: John

 

[T-block]

Glyph, who was the target of your slot's protect N1?

 

[Pluvia]

No you keep on telling me to vote John without good reason.

Both of you are claiming doc, yet your play is more scummy. You have TB backing you up and John has Chibo, but you voted me just because I was asking a question and in the same post you pretended to be a doctor just so it'd look bad on me for asking a question.

Doesn't anyone see what he's doing? He's lying about being a doc but he doesn't have a good argument to prove it other than "I'm doc because I refused to answer a question a few times".

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Pluvia, vote John please. If you think my play is more scummy than Johns I don't really know what to say to you.

And if you think having T-block backing me is the same if Chibo backing someone else, you're sorely mistaken as well.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

rPSI protected Guus N1

 

[CT Chia]

Anyone find it weird how Glyph went from slipping that there's only 2 mafia to now saying there's probably 2?
Not to mention Tblock jumping to his defense when I called him out on the slip trying to tie it to the Gustave sit?

Also tb and glyph, Im tired of the loaded bull**** statements "what scum would kill chibo" and "lol who would protect chibo" is bs and complete wifom

 

[CT Chia]

oh glyph how convenient u cant discuss ur protect choice from n1

 

[Pluvia]

So explain to me why TB, who didn't trust you, refused to grill you like I did, yet as soon as you went "lol I'm doc Pluvia questioned me too much lets lynch him" he started to back you up more.

Hell, TB even told me not to question you even though he previously said he didn't trust you.

 

[CT Chia]

joey, how does the pluvia case make glyph more town? it makes him more scum

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Anyone find it weird how Glyph went from slipping that there's only 2 mafia to now saying there's probably 2?
Not to mention Tblock jumping to his defense when I called him out on the slip trying to tie it to the Gustave sit?

Also tb and glyph, Im tired of the loaded bull**** statements "what scum would kill chibo" and "lol who would protect chibo" is bs and complete wifom

Remember that time that T-block quoted that post from forever ago saying there was two scum? And how its super obvious that there's two scum? Good job totally ignoring those and repeating the same tired 'case' over and over again.

And Chibo there's a reason no one would want you dead as scum, its because you're not a strong player. You've been a non-presence in this game up until you pulled your terribad claim out of you *** that would have gotten you lynched in a second by most of the people I know (Joey still absolutely baffled you believe him). Scum would want you around because they'd know you weren't going to do anything, and town wouldn't want you around for the same reason.

oh glyph how convenient u cant discuss ur protect choice from n1

Oh no you caught me! Guess that makes me scum!

No wait I totally posted it a few minutes before you said that. WHOOPS

 

[CT Chia]

also tb and glyph r only talking about situations and connections if john dies, but arent speculating if glyph dies. loaded.

my phones bout to die soon. if it does i cant post till i get back in like 2 hrs

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

So explain to me why TB, who didn't trust you, refused to grill you like I did, yet as soon as you went "lol I'm doc Pluvia questioned me too much lets lynch him" he started to back you up more.

Hell, TB even told me not to question you even though he previously said he didn't trust you.

Because T-block isn't completely oblivious to the things going on around him in the game.

also tb and glyph r only talking about situations and connections if john dies, but arent speculating if glyph dies. loaded.

my phones bout to die soon. if it does i cant post till i get back in like 2 hrs

God forbid! Clearly we're scum because we wouldn't want you to know that you could pretty much make the opposite assumptions that you'd take away from a john lynch!

Oh wait, no, that's just common sense! Sorry I haven't been spelling things out for you as much as I should have Chibo, I will work harder in the future to make you understand.

 

[CT Chia]

My case is very much intact, and the fact that you'd try to dispute it on such a technicality is laughable.

True, there's probably only two scum left. John is one of them, that's clear from the CC. You're next in line from the sheer levels of stupidity of your claim and how tightly you've clung to using your one shot cop ability on a town read.

Should one of the two flip town, then we lynch Pluvia on the basis of my initial case. Its really not that complex.

except if john is scum, so am i. and two u john HAS to be scum. so, there's 100% no reason for u to consider pluvia scum anymore unless there is a godfather or redirector. and the chances of a godfather cc'ing a PR? NEVER going to happen from anyone with even an ounce of intelligence, not to mention the GF could have a scumfriend do it for him.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Chibo not even you should be so shortsighted to introduce that kind of WIFOM. Pluvia is still a very viable candidate for scum, just miles and miles behind yourself.