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[Dooms]

-Town and myself included gain more delusional information from someone who I think may be scum. It's like saying, if you had the power to make it so no scummies could talk during the day, would you do it? Of course. This situation sort of gives me that power in a weird way because of Glyph's stubbornness.

-What whole town? Glyph is the only one that seems to care about what he wants me to say. Not even 50% of town has commented on this back and forth. You yourself only seem interested in what Glyph has to say, and my comment is just a means to getting Glyph to say what you want to hear. No one has shown any huge interest in what I have to say. I'm just a means to an end, go right for the source.

-You do or don't have to blame anyone here, but look at your priorities here. You want to hear Glyph's information. He won't say it until I say whatever. That's his issue, not mine or yours. Your barking up the wrong tree here.

Joey, you SERIOUSLY need to get your priorities straight here.

Me, Pluvia, Kantrip, and Gustave I believe have showed interest in this subject. No one else besides you has posted.

It's your issue for not giving him the information! If I gave you a book, but the last 30 pages out of 100 are torn out, you're going to be missing a lot of information from that book! Glyph has 70 pages right now, and you have the last 30. It's not scummy that he's not sharing any information when he doesn't have it all and is waiting for his information to be confirmed or not through you.

How is Glyph scummy? His Vinyl lynch isn't scummy at ALL and what he's doing right now isn't scummy either.

If you're going to play the game of "That guy might be scum, so I'm not going to let him contribute!", do you really think you're going to get a successful lynch? How do you think a mislynch happens? You have it set in your mind that he's scum, so you're not going to let him contribute. Please die in a fire.

 

[T-block]

Because, like I've made very clear on like 5 separate occasions now, he was a detriment to town. He was flat out unable to comprehend what was going on, and we removed him. It was the smart thing to do, regardless of alignment. The fact that he really was town was just kind of an unfortunate downside to what had to be done.

I don't think I can say it more clearly than that.

But lets go back to you singling me out. Tell me Chibo, because I 'ousted his town claim', did I have any more information available to me than anyone else who voted for him? I'll save you the time and field that one for you. No, no I did not. I had what Vinyl had posted, same as everyone else.

If the way I handled Vinyl makes me scum, then you're going to have to lynch everyone on that wagon because the exact same case applies to them.


Joey, hang onto that thought for a bit, I've got a fun little tidbit I'm going to share with everyone once I'm happy with this Chibo thing.

I'll second Glyph's question, Chibo. Maybe you can answer it now?

Let me clarify it for you too.

These are the players who ended up voting for Vinyl to end the Day:

1. Vinyl. [3] DtJ Glyphmoney, Mr. Wiggles the Worm, Pluvia, T-block, JO_OEY

You've voiced your suspicions of me already. If you dislike Glyph because he kept his vote on Vinyl after a town reaction to being lynched, why have you not confronted Gustave and Pluvia?

 

[T-block]

Still I do want to hear what Glyph has to say because I'm pretty sure he's scum now. Town doesn't play like this.

I thought this was your first game? ;D

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Okay, actually Chibo's reluctance to do anything is good enough for me. I'll keep this short and sweet.

I am Xiivi, Town Doctor. But why would I claim right now? Not only am I clearing a townie (any myself when no one CC's), but I also set a little something up to look for mafia.

Last night, I protected T-Block. Since this is an open setup, we can conclude that there were three players in this game who knew T-Block should have been killed: Myself and two mafia. Look back at how I started the day off.

The important thing I took for reading was that I am going to trust T-Block pretty much

vote: John2k4

The whoooooole point of this post was to set off alarm bells in scum's heads. The then the next problem is...

WHO

Why what has he done that makes him so completely trustworthy?

WOULD BE CONCERNED

Glyph thinks TB is town for some reason.

[Edited out for non relevance]

I'll make my decision once I hear from TB, hear why Glyph suddenly trusts him even though TB doesn't trust him back, learn from Kantrip why it never worked on him and hear John's defense.

WITH ME LIKING T-BLOCK SO SUDDENLY

I just want my questions answered.

AND SEEMINGLY ABSOLUTELY

Call me cocky, but I know a lot about T-Block's meta. I was in his first mafia game (at least on the site) and several others beyond that, and I've got a pretty good handle on what he does when town and what he does when he's scum. Of course, if I'm wrong I'm putting the fate of the game into scum's hands, I just am willing to bet the game that I'm not.

I don't buy it. He doesn't trust you yet you unconditionally trust him? You're withholding something.

You're right Pluvia, I WAS withholding something! Its my vote, for you!

vote: Pluvia

Town had absolutely no reason to have any issues with me liking T-Block, especially when I was telling everyone it was drawn from a reread. Pluvia was the only one who was vocal about the whole ordeal from the start. Punch those numbers in your calculator and you get a smiley face.


Oh, and bonus post!

Down with Tblock or Glyph lynch. But which one..

Chibo is probably scum too.



So, in closing:
Pluvia/Chibo - Scum
T-Block - Cleared Town
Glyph - Either going to be cleared town, or draw out a scum member via CC

Have fun with this one

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Sometimes I forget this isn't portal mafia and doesn't have an open setup.

Whole thing still stands though.

 

[T-block]

Sweet.

I was actually hoping I was going to die last Night just so I wouldn't have to deal with increasing suspicion about why I was still alive, but this is good enough.

Protective can CC Glyph is lying.

 

[John2k4]

Alright, time to CC; I can't let Glyph get away with something like this.

I am Crimson King, Town Doctor. Each night I can protect someone. Night 1 I protected Acrostic, and Night 2 I protected Chibo.
This is why I kept trying to bring up the Night Kill, T-Block - I had sent in a protection for Acrostic, and yet he was killed; I wanted to try to figure out if scum had a roleblocker or something that stopped my protection.

I've been quiet for a lot of the game because this is essentially my first PR, and I wanted to keep myself out of the spotlight as much as possible to try and stay alive.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

You're Crimson King.

The Doctor.

Also thank you for telling us what a doctor does, it really helps since we were confused about that.

unvote vote: John

Still want Pluvia dead, but no way can I pass this up.

(John it looks like in your blind ambition to stop the treacherous fake doc you forgot to pretend to be town and actually vote me, you might want to fix that)

 

[John2k4]

I had to go dig a hole, and was able to take a 5 minute break to post that.

Vote: Glyph

Well then, we are both at L-1 I think.

--
And yes, I know about the Doc Role because MafiaScum Wiki was the first place I went when I saw it.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

IS IT MY BIRTHDAY

John, that info would have been in your role PM you tard

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

John I see you viewing the DR, come talk to all your friends here in the mafia game some more

 

[T-block]

lol cute

vote: John2k4
vote: John2k4
vote: John2k4

Why would anyone protect Chibo anyways

 

[John2k4]

I know, I lost my WiFi so I had to switch to a cell signal.
I realize my role PM stated that, and it's exactly what I paraphrased when I CC'ed you.
MafiaScum is exactly where I went first, since its page had a ton of info related to Doc; way more than the role

 

[T-block]

request votecount

 

[John2k4]

Erm you just killed me I think TB...

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I know, I lost my WiFi so I had to switch to a cell signal.
I realize my role PM stated that, and it's exactly what I paraphrased when I CC'ed you.
MafiaScum is exactly where I went first, since its page had a ton of info related to Doc; way more than the role

Oh really? A quick look at their article on it shows that... a doc protects someone (hey, that's what my role PM says!). There are literally THREE sentences on the subject, and nothing more. Hell, two of those sentences are solely based on common sense for mafia games!

But you're right, there is just a TON of extra information for us to gain from looking there.

 

[T-block]

Erm you just killed me I think TB...

My vote was already on you.

But if you say you're both at L-1, I'll unvote for now if you will.

unvote

 

[CT Chia]

Jesus Christ...

I forget if I'm voting anyone, I think it's Glyph. Just in case...

Unvote Vote Glyph

You slipped up big mr. open setup. It's closed, and you did right yourself in that, but there's still more. You specifically said the TWO mafia. We don't know that, and even if you mixed up the terms, we don't know that. Only scum does.

I also think John is town, and you guys are counter claimed. Guess who I'm gonna believe.

Geeez, can we please lynch Glyph now then Tblock tomorrow? Look at this scum strike.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

He's at L-2 I believe, not sure where this L-1 talk came from in the first place.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Oh hey my name is Chibo I'm going to ignore everything that happened and only talk about the thing that lets me not vote for John

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Chibo, how would you know I was right or wrong about the number of mafia then?

 

[T-block]

vote: John2k4

1. John2k4 [3] T-Block, Mr. Wiggles the Worm, DtJ Glyphmoney
2. vVv Chibosempai [1] JO_OEY
3. Pluvia [0]
4. Mr. Wiggles the Worm [0]
5. JO_OEY [0]
6. DtJ Glyphmoney [3] Pluvia, vVv Chibosempai, John2k4
7. T-Block [0]
8. Kantrip [0]

Not Voting: Kantrip

 

[CT Chia]

Chibo, how would you know I was right or wrong about the number of mafia then?

You seemed confident in what you said and would hope you wouldn't lie.

 

[T-block]

Number of Scum


This contradiction is interesting, though his mind could have changed tbh with around 4 days between those posts, and it being a mundane fact in a way without any hard evidence. Even though this contradiction is weird, how can you relate it exactly to knowledge of how many scum there are? Wouldn't he want 3 to be an acceptable thought to ppl if he knew there was 2? And this is with me thinking there is no more than 2 because of there being an indy.

You slipped up big mr. open setup. It's closed, and you did right yourself in that, but there's still more. You specifically said the TWO mafia. We don't know that, and even if you mixed up the terms, we don't know that. Only scum does.

Hahahahahahaha

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

T-Block can we carry this game off into the sunset now or what

 

[T-block]

 

[CT Chia]

Hahahahahahaha

Gustave was just saying various thoughts on the topic, which you thought showed insider information.

Are you saying that Glyph basically flat out saying THERE ARE TWO SCUM does not show insider information? These are two very different things.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Well now I guess we just wait for people to show up and put their votes on John.

 

[CT Chia]

More like Glyph

 

[John2k4]

I think Kantrip is in a play or something, and won't be back until Sunday.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Meh, if not continuing to respond on the back and forth with Glyph stops him in his tracks and makes him not want to move forward, I'm fine with that lol

No, I'm not purposefully stopping town from continuing, I'm purposefully stopping Glyph from continuing. We're to do anything we want. Glyph is one of my scum leads. If I have control to stop him from continuing on, then I'll do it lol. It's like I have a super mid day silencing power!

Übermad.
If Glyph is one of your scum leads, don't you want him to continue and point out his slips? You're being a ****ing idiot if you're just gonna let him sit there, arms crossed while he's your main scum lead. So far, Glyph isn't even close to getting lynched, yet you're letting him sit there, arms crossed.

You are making this so easy for John, you're making me mad. I can't decide on who to vote, but consider my vote to be on both Chibo and John and I'll be happy to vote whoever gets lynched sooner.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Chibo, tell me what about John isn't scummy. What parts of the case against him are flawed?

No, I don't want you to say 'oh he's scummy but you're JUST SO MUCH SCUMMIER BECAUSE YOU KNEW THERE WAS 2 SCUM'

Guus put your vote on John, he's going first.

 

[Jim Morrison]

But Glyph, do you believe there to be 3 scum then?

 

[T-block]

Gustave was just saying various thoughts on the topic, which you thought showed insider information.

Are you saying that Glyph basically flat out saying THERE ARE TWO SCUM does not show insider information? These are two very different things.

Gustave was saying those things before Raziek flipped indy SK. It turns out he DID have reason to suspect that there were only two mafia, thanks to his role.

Glyph is saying this AFTER Raziek's flip. You don't need insider information to know that we're not dealing with three mafia and an indy SK in an 11-man game. You said it yourself in that first quote, yet you're trying to hold this against Glyph here.

I think Kantrip is in a play or something, and won't be back until Sunday.

Legitimately thanking you for making me laugh. This made my day slightly better haha.

 

[CT Chia]

Super concise summary of recent things with no opinion involved:

Glyph claimed Xiivi, Town Doc.
John CC'd Crimson King, Town Doc.

And this excerpt from Glyph's post:

Last night, I protected T-Block. Since this is an open setup, we can conclude that there were three players in this game who knew T-Block should have been killed: Myself and two mafia.

Yea that.

And now, my take on it.

So basically, one of these two are going to die because of the counter claiming. Who dies though is the question. I've had a town read on John most of the game, and somewhat a scum read on Glyph - so this matches up fairly well since one of the two are lying.

Now take the slip there into consideration. So who goes?

 

[Jim Morrison]

Okay ignore my previous post, I should read up everything before posting again.

 

[CT Chia]

Übermad.
If Glyph is one of your scum leads, don't you want him to continue and point out his slips? You're being a ****ing idiot if you're just gonna let him sit there, arms crossed while he's your main scum lead. So far, Glyph isn't even close to getting lynched, yet you're letting him sit there, arms crossed.

Would rather stop scum from talking and potentially letting them have a say to try and convince other players that they are not scum. I explained this already with comparing it to having like a silencing day power.

 

[John2k4]

T-Block, I know you remember my trying to question the Night Kill when Acrostic was killed - it was specifically because I had sent in the protect for him, and was trying to figure out why he was still killed.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Chibo you seem to have missed my post there champ, looking for you to show my just how towny John has been.

 

[T-block]

Gustave, vote John.

Chibo is trying to call Glyph scum for saying something that not only everyone can deduce for themselves, but that he himself believed. He's completely ignored the case on John, instead choosing to constantly ask for summaries, and has in general been singling out Glyph for bull**** reasons the whole Day.

But John is still the logical lynch. We're in a claim conflict, so to lynch anyone else would be silly. Plus, he's been scummy as hell all game.