Mini Game | Werewolves win

[Orboknown]

Did J try to self clear himself of being a WW for catching the slip?

I'm pretty sure most ruthless players here would bus their mates into the ground for something that big.

Not that i know of

 

[Orboknown]

Slick was really intent on lynching Koopa, but that doesn't mean he wasn't reading into other players. THAT BEING SAID, Slick only knows the role of his WW buddy.


Both players were very reluctant to actually look at each other in-detail. J put Slick at #4 on his lynch list with no explanation. Slick put J as probably scum with no legit explanation. J hammered Slick, but only when he was going to be hammered anyway.


Er kinda. this happened

we must have different definitions of self clearing

 

[Zalak]

@ RosalinaSGS

when you get online, could you make a list of the top 3 people you want to lynch?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Yeah that isn't self clearing.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I do think Spak will flip scum more and more over Zalak reading backwards, I'm not sold he would flip WW though over mafia if he did.

But w/e he just need to lynch scum both days and the WW needs to die tomorrow by the latest.

 

[#HBC | J]

So, where does that put your vote then Ryu?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

So, where does that put your vote then Ryu?

Meh, not sure yet.

Spak does seem disinterested in the game, especially given the other one that just finished I thought he tried harder here.

His vote on me is super weak and I don't see him trying to push out of that zone.

Zalak lynch? maybe still down, depends.

I do think Spak is looking better and better as a lynch as I read backwards though.

 

[Spak]

I'm at homecoming, so I'll read up later tonight.

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm biting the bullet here. I'm much more confident with lynching Sparky and going from there. It's the only place I am confident in going and I really haven't been given a reason to not vote for him yet toDay.

Vote: Sparky

 

[Orboknown]

Warning - I'm gonna be drinking tonight and playing xenoverse so dunno how much I'll be posting/if it'll make sense

 

[Zalak]

we must have different definitions of self clearing

this is exactly why i said "er kinda"

 

[Zalak]

I'm trying to be understanding and rationale, but it's literally been 20 pgs of the same, "No, u!" and quite frankly, I'm done with it haha.

does anyone besides J actually think this way? J's been so difficult and deflective all game. i've notice that he spends much more of his time trying to devalue my accusations, and and make me out to be some horrible and clueless player than he does actually being a reasonable person and giving reasonable responses. how is that at all acceptable?

Zalak, for the sake of town, and the sake of others, I am no longer responding to your posts. This argument is anti-town and I'm not continuing it any longer. I wish to play a game of mafia, not a game of whatever this has devolved into.

Just know, you'll get your post. Just literally do SOMETHING else in this game besides try to get me to sate your ego.

Serisously, you have an ego trip bro. It needs to stop.

When I see egos, I squash them.

he shouldn't get to play this way just because he's an IC. he called my campaign against him a pissing contest, but if it has turned into a pissing contest, it's his fault. I'm not the one who has been downright insulting the other person instead of actually disputing their claims. I'm not the one who's stopped inbetween every point to say "alright, but before i continue, let me tell you... that you know NOTHING of mafia" I'm the one who whined for 20 pages before actually defending myself in any reasonable way. I am so so sick of you all just letting J pointlessly delay his defenses for so long, and then just pinning the entire thing on me. If any of the new players acted like that, you'd be up in arms. Imagine if RadicalRat said the accusations made against him weren't worthy of a defense. If he said that, you'd assume he just didn't know how to defend himself. If I ever did that, you'd assume I just didn't know how to defend myself. If anyone else did, you'd assume the same thing. even now, he agreed to respond to 3-5 of my accusations, and he kept his word, so i'll give him that, but not that i've actually pointed out my problems with his defense, he just said "well those are just your opinions... soo....". My points are much more factual than he gives them credit for. if you all agree with him, I guess there's not much else I can say, but I have to ask, did any of you actually read my arguments? J's play has been a strategy to make sure none of you actually give my posts against him any credit, and it's working. I don't completely blame you all, I mean J is a sneaky guy, but from now on, can we PLEASE just be a bit more critical of him? He's my #1 lynch target for a reason.

 

[Zalak]

and that's the final complainy post i'm gonna make. I just really feel like J is getting away with murder. Anyways, now I'm gonna shift my attention away from J, at least until he responds to my post about his reluctance to deal with Slick.

 

[Zalak]

@ #HBC | Red Ryu how do you feel about Rosa's play so far? like, if you didn't have a PoE read on Rosa, which way would you lean, and why?

 

[Zalak]

oh, and who is your strongest town read/lean?

 

[Zalak]

I feel Zalak may be town, in fact I feel reasonably confident in it

if you don't mind me asking, what exactly changed your mind and made you think I'm town?

 

[Zalak]

Also i didn't pick up anything offhand.

Is this the post where you said you didn't find anything? I took it to mean you hadn't found anything yet, but you would still look a bit more, so that's why I got confused.

 

[Zalak]

It's true that you were a large part of the push on Slick, but you and Slick never had walls of interactions; you never pushed him as hard, never sought after what he had to say, and never hyper-analyzed him the way that J did.

When did J hyper-analyze Slick?

 

[Orboknown]

Is this the post where you said you didn't find anything? I took it to mean you hadn't found anything yet, but you would still look a bit more, so that's why I got confused.

Confirmamundo

 

[#HBC | J]

I have never said you no nothing about mafia. I have said that your views are a tad jaded.

You act as if I am this mastermind of evil when I'm really not and it's really disparaging that you are having such a hard time dealing with the fact that I simply disagree with you and the fact that I am town that you've bitten onto. You have never even considered that I am town. You have not once given me a fair change. You have acted as if every response I've given or defense I've given is scummy or negative. It's unfair and why would I want to respond to someone who isn't going to listen?

There's a reason why people have been on my side this entire time. There's a reason your push on me isn't going anywhere. No one is being dense here, they just actually see my side of the argument.

I'm town, I don't know what else to tell you at this point.

 

[Zalak]

but i have been giving you chances, you just frequently reject them. Like on page 56, you gave me so much trouble, when all I asked for was a quote that you claim exists. it's almost as if you want me to read you as scum or something.

and pointing out my problems with your defenses doesn't mean I'm not listening, it means i'm being critical. anyway, this argument is silly. you know what i want from you, and i will leave it at that.

 

[RosalinaSGS]

SlickWyldeOrboknown, Spak, Zalak, Red Ryu, #HBC J5 / 5
TheKingofKoopasSlickWylde, RosalinaSGS2 / 5

@ RosalinaSGS Why were you not voting Slick here?

The last time I'd been on, the Slick wagon hadn't started yet, nor had he scumslipped yet. At the time of that votecount, I hadn't been online to see the situation and change my vote. Why did I vote for Koops instead of Slick? A whim. The vote was meant to be a placeholder, and I didn't particularly care who would be lynched as I was confident they were both scum. I didn't expect a hammer to occur before I could log on again.

Also, I'm pretty sure I've already answered this toDay.

 

[#HBC | J]

People, deadline is approaching and we should start finalizing votes since it seems a majority of people are just sitting on their laurels.

I stand by Sparky being the best option for toDay over any slots, but if anyone has anyone else they'd like to throw on the table, now's the time to do as such.

 

[Spak]

People, deadline is approaching and we should start finalizing votes since it seems a majority of people are just sitting on their laurels.

I stand by Sparky being the best option for toDay over any slots, but if anyone has anyone else they'd like to throw on the table, now's the time to do as such.

I'd like to put RR on the list. His play has been dodgy, safe, and refused to answer questions that didn't suit his agenda. Much like the presidential candidate.

I'm at a tourney, so I won't respond much today.

 

[Orboknown]

Vote spak

 

[Spak]

Vote spak

You forgot the semicolon.

 

[Orboknown]

I don't usually put one?

 

[#HBC | J]

I don't think Gheb has been that nit-picky, but it is good habit to follow the right method.

Spak : What makes Ryu a better lynch than yourself besides the obvious answer?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Votecount:

Voted | Voters | Votes
#HBC J | Zalak | 1 / 4
Red Ryu | Spak | 1 / 4
Spak | #HBC J, Orboknown | 2 / 4

Not voting: RosalinaSGS, Red Ryu

 

[Zalak]

I'll throw my vote down on Spak before the deadline if needed, but I'd prefer to lynch J, because I actually have many good reasons to believe he's scum. I especially don't like the way he's been controlling the game. RosalinaSGS #HBC | Red Ryu Spak Orboknown did you ever actually read my recent posts against J? I feel like he's been trying to get rid of my voice, because my voice is the only one that actually threatens him. I also think of all the players, he easily has the highest chance of being a werewolf. I think if J gets lynch today, the WW faction will be eliminated, along with their nightkill. I'd like to remind everyone that while Spak has been growing more and more shifty as lately, and I can now agree with him as an acceptable lynch, J's original reason for wanting to lynch Spak was sass. Instead of looking at (the now confirmed WW) slickwylde, and the accusations made against him, J decided to go ahead and vote for Spak because he was acting sassy. I stand by the opinion that J is easily the scummiest, player, and I encourage you all to go back and read some of my posts. I'll change my vote if J won't happen, but yeah, I'd like for you all to actually consider it. J has way too much power this game.

 

[Zalak]

Spak : What makes Ryu a better lynch than yourself besides the obvious answer?

What's the obvious answer?

 

[#HBC | J]

My original reason for voting Spak wasn't sass. *sigh* You haven't really read again.

And the obvious reason being "It's not me" or the answer anyone can say "I'm town though."

 

[Zalak]

I'd like to put RR on the list. His play has been dodgy, safe, and refused to answer questions that didn't suit his agenda. Much like the presidential candidate.

When has RR refused to answer questions?

 

[Zalak]

My original reason for voting Spak wasn't sass. *sigh* You haven't really read again.

And the obvious reason being "It's not me" or the answer anyone can say "I'm town though."

Sass was definitely a big driving factor.

I am giggling so much at Sparky currently. That sass though. Like wow. It's so OoC for Sparky.

Can we actually lynch Sparky? Like I genuinely think he is scum like 100% now. Things just got more interesting.

 

[Zalak]

My apologies, I should have clarified, I meant yesterday.

 

[Zalak]

ER, game yesterday, as in not game today.

 

[#HBC | J]

I was mainly commenting on the sass because it was OoC for him to do as such until he explained it was due to IRL reasons. Do you recall way back on day D2 when I actually voted Sparky originally?

And how come you can go back and finds quotes like that but when asked to prove the other thing regarding Slick, you don't? It makes no sense.

 

[Zalak]

Like I've explained 9001 times, there is nothing for me to quote to prove you never did something. I've stated that you never had any directed pushed against Slick based on any sort of scummy behavior by him. If you think that's not true, it is up to you to show me when you did. I'm not going to go looking for a quote that doesn't exist. I'm sorry, but this really is mafia 101, and everyone else here has been willing to actually back up their claims when they claim to have done something. You are the only one to complain about that.

 

[Zalak]

Have YOU actually been reading? You constantly seem to be forgetting or denying things, and I'm wondering if you're intentionally trying to be deceptive, or if you're just not paying attention.

 

[#HBC | J]

To differentiate between IRL day and Game Day, use these.

Today = IRL
toDay = Game Day

Yesterday = lol
YesterDay = Game last phase.

It's much easier to see/type the difference.