Mini Game | Werewolves win

[RosalinaSGS]

why?

All this pushing and questionare at Zalak, yet you read him as town.

Many of this questionnaire, and the posts you made when the day started. Seem hostile, but you seem extremely reluctant to make any sort of push in that direction.

His reply to my comments then was the main game-changer. Everyone's negative reaction to my rant caused me to check myself, and review my position. After all, it was quite excessive. So, I had another look at my read on Zalak. Below are my original points against him:
1. His NK analysis. It just... sucked. It still sucks, and if this were D1 I would still lynch him for it. But in mylo, in a game I would quite like to win, lynching him on this relatively minor point is overkill.
2. His seemingly excessive 'humour'. It didn't contribute much and crammed the thread. Originally, it'd been funny, so I tolerated it. Back then, I still saw him as the ideal player, able to seem town no matter the situation. But then someone said it could be regarded as fake, and seemed too excessive to be Zalak just being Zalak. So I had a look, and kept that in mind. And yes, I agree, Zalak's funny posts were just too much. That didn't colour my view of him well, especially when any of his townie actions from earlier Days I just attributed to his skill at the game. So that was another point, but once again, in retrospect, it's insufficient to be evidence of scumminess.
3. So, the main point is Zalak's contention with J. This is basically the deciding point. After all, it pretty much embodies Zalak in this game. At first, didn't like this, as he seemed to be way too focussed on J without actually asking him anything. Sure, he says J isn't answering, but nor was he asking. Then he puts forward 3 points, which I like. Then I skim the points, and I don't like what he wrote. So basically it's up to my opinion after I properly look at his accusations and J's response, which is why I said my read on him was actually pending.... *cough cough* *nudge nudge* *read the thread*

 

[RosalinaSGS]

Rosa disappearing doesn't help^

Yeah, soz. Had family things yesterday.

@ RosalinaSGS

when you get online, could you make a list of the top 3 people you want to lynch?

Right now, I think J, RR and you are probably town. (4 town so I don't have to deal with J).
Out of Orbo and Spak, probably Spak, cos of absence.
Really not sure whether or not Orbo's actually scum now that I think about it. But Zalak's feeling town, J's feeling very strong town, RR's playing better so town lean, and Orbo's playing well, but there's ThatSmasher so town lean. And Spak's scum lean for floating.
So...
Spak, Orbo, RR (but last two are chancy...)

 

[RosalinaSGS]

Less than 24 hours before the deadline... My vote will stay on RR unless there's a slip-up by someone; I implore you to hear out my reasoning and make a decision between me and RR to avoid a no-lynch.

Um... yeah, no. Still got 40-ish hours...

 

[#HBC | J]

I see you reading and posting Rosa, I would prefer for you to vote before disappearing again as I would rather not chance you not being able to come back for deadline.

 

[Zalak]

I see you reading and posting Rosa, I would prefer for you to vote before disappearing again as I would rather not chance you not being able to come back for deadline.

Rosa probably knows when the last time they'll be able to show up is

 

[#HBC | J]

You don't have to comment on everything I say, dude.

Let other people have conversations.

 

[Zalak]

that's actually kinda why i pointed that out. don't wanna end this day prematurely, and stop rosa from talking. anyways. yea, i see your point. i am out.

 

[Spak]

Um... yeah, no. Still got 40-ish hours...

Oh, my b. I thought it was sunday night 'cause that was the DGames timeline for a night or two.

 

[RosalinaSGS]

if you don't mind me asking, what exactly changed your mind and made you think I'm town?

Reconsideration of my reasons against you, how weak they were, your otherwise relative towniness and the fact you actually began asking J questions. But then I read your questions, and decided my read of you would be pending.

Still haven't read that convo yet.

 

[RosalinaSGS]

I'll throw my vote down on Spak before the deadline if needed, but I'd prefer to lynch J, because I actually have many good reasons to believe he's scum. I especially don't like the way he's been controlling the game. RosalinaSGS #HBC | Red Ryu Spak Orboknown did you ever actually read my recent posts against J? I feel like he's been trying to get rid of my voice, because my voice is the only one that actually threatens him. I also think of all the players, he easily has the highest chance of being a werewolf. I think if J gets lynch today, the WW faction will be eliminated, along with their nightkill. I'd like to remind everyone that while Spak has been growing more and more shifty as lately, and I can now agree with him as an acceptable lynch, J's original reason for wanting to lynch Spak was sass. Instead of looking at (the now confirmed WW) slickwylde, and the accusations made against him, J decided to go ahead and vote for Spak because he was acting sassy. I stand by the opinion that J is easily the scummiest, player, and I encourage you all to go back and read some of my posts. I'll change my vote if J won't happen, but yeah, I'd like for you all to actually consider it. J has way too much power this game.

No, not yet.

 

[RosalinaSGS]

I see you reading and posting Rosa, I would prefer for you to vote before disappearing again as I would rather not chance you not being able to come back for deadline.

Chill, mate. I make sure I'm always on the day before deadline. What's the votecount btw?

 

[RosalinaSGS]

Back from the tourney. I beat PK (two-stock), was put into losers by ESAM (three-stock), then was put out of losers by Beeftip (one-stock, three-stock). Tough bracket, but I'm happy with my performance.


How would you know OoC for me when I've only played one game with you?


Which ones haven't I answered? Could you please give me a post number?

Reading backwards, in addition to everything everyone sees from me as scummy (other than the OoC part, which I don't believe is a good accusation) I saw a couple things; I already mentioned the fishiness of Ryu wanting to lynch a slot based on play that was already generally accepted as noobish and the whole "If I were a coasting WW" comment, but the other thing I noticed was that Ryu had literally no conversations with Koops. He talked about his slot two or three times, but only in reads, and even in reads he said nothing of signifigance of the slot. He said he forgot what the slot has done, and then didn't ever bother to figure out what the slot had done or looked at it at all during the game. In addition the whole "reading backwards I think Spak is a good lynch" thing is just wishy-washy to get through another day. He doesn't seem to want to do scumhunting, he seems to want to go with the flow so that he makes everyone happy with his slot and he can go along undetected.

Ryu wanted to lynch a slot on noobishness?
"If I were a coasting WW" is a joke.
Ryu has had no conversations with anyone killed before toDay.
I'm pretty sure the questions he's been asking today count as scumhunting...
And he's still very much in everyone's spotlight...

 

[RosalinaSGS]

RosalinaSGS if you have the time, could you answer my questions next time you get online?

also

Spak

you still haven't answered all of Rosa's questions, have you?

Just want to make sure I answered all your Q's?

 

[Orboknown]

Chill, mate. I make sure I'm always on the day before deadline. What's the votecount btw?

2 spak 1 rr iirc

 

[RosalinaSGS]

toDay, still good with lynching Spak

 

[Spak]

Ryu wanted to lynch a slot on noobishness?

He wanted to lynch a slot (TSYK) that has been considered to be noobishly played, but wasn't even willing to consider giving Orbo a chance and wanted Orbo lynched ASAP. Calling for a lynch on a slot just because of scrubby play in a MINI-MAFIA isn't townish play.

"If I were a coasting WW" is a joke.

You can call it whatever you want.

Ryu has had no conversations with anyone killed before toDay.

He talked with/about Slick a LOT more than he talked about Koops.

I'm pretty sure the questions he's been asking today count as scumhunting...

I must've missed his questions. Mind giving me 5-10 good ones?

And he's still very much in everyone's spotlight...

He wasn't before I voted and started a push on him.

 

[Zalak]

Just want to make sure I answered all your Q's?

yeah, you got em

 

[RosalinaSGS]

Spak thinking I am scum because of something I never did nor did J really.

Rosalina is PoE and I still call bull on town reading most of the game when Rosa should be aware of the 3 scum still left in the game.

why?

SlickWyldeOrboknown, Spak, Zalak, Red Ryu, #HBC J5 / 5
TheKingofKoopasSlickWylde, RosalinaSGS2 / 5

@ RosalinaSGS Why were you not voting Slick here?

All this pushing and questionare at Zalak, yet you read him as town.

Many of this questionnaire, and the posts you made when the day started. Seem hostile, but you seem extremely reluctant to make any sort of push in that direction.

Spak thinking I am scum because of something I never did nor did J really.

Rosalina is PoE and I still call bull on town reading most of the game when Rosa should be aware of the 3 scum still left in the game.

J, you may have a point with that, but does it relate to his scumminess?

That's fine and all but, I just want to understand where your angle is in this.

Like don't get me wrong, I get that you are one of the guides for the newer players, or at least trying to here from what I can tell and props to you on that.

What I am saying here is that you seem to be implying you know he is not scum, or at least this is the vibe I have bee getting recently?

Is he not? ok, then why is Spak better?

Did J try to self clear himself of being a WW for catching the slip?

I'm pretty sure most ruthless players here would bus their mates into the ground for something that big.

 

[RosalinaSGS]

Spak thinking I am scum because of something I never did nor did J really.

Rosalina is PoE and I still call bull on town reading most of the game when Rosa should be aware of the 3 scum still left in the game.

oh... yeah...
I suppose my reads right now are how I feel taking them at face value.
When you take into account 3 scums left in the game, J and RR/Zalak are probably town.

 

[Zalak]

how did you come to the conclusion that Orbo is probs scum?

 

[Orboknown]

....

What are these supposed to be...is there an answer involved?

 

[Spak]

3 and 4 are not questions, but fine, I'll nullify that point. I know you've addressed this before, Rosa, but you and J have been hyper-agreeing all game. Like, to the point that I'm starting to think that you can communicate about the game outside of the game. You two have agreed on a vast majority of points, have usually had the same reads, but have never voted for the same person. I'm suspecting that's a possible act of disassociation, but I doubt I could swing a J lynch (God knows Zalak has been trying) or a Rosa lynch today, or in my position of being suspected of being out of character with one point of reference that everyone seems to be digging at (and somehow makes me more suspect than Ryu), ever.

Also, Rosa, could you please let Ryu answer accusations against him? If I live through today, don't worry, you'll have your time.

 

[Spak]

I've gotta go to bed so I can get up at 7:30. Good night.

 

[RosalinaSGS]

What are these supposed to be...is there an answer involved?

From what you quoted, Spak had asked me to quote some example of RR scumhunting, but his question was accidentally inputted in a quote. My quotes were examples of RR scumhunting. Admittedly, they weren't nearly as good as I thought they were, but RR is scumhunting.

If you're talking about the ellipses I frequently use, they're used to indicate pauses. Read it as if I'm speaking.

 

[#HBC | J]

Someone should discuss things with me if anyone's in thread.

 

[RosalinaSGS]

3 and 4 are not questions, but fine, I'll nullify that point. I know you've addressed this before, Rosa, but you and J have been hyper-agreeing all game. Like, to the point that I'm starting to think that you can communicate about the game outside of the game. You two have agreed on a vast majority of points, have usually had the same reads, but have never voted for the same person. I'm suspecting that's a possible act of disassociation, but I doubt I could swing a J lynch (God knows Zalak has been trying) or a Rosa lynch today, or in my position of being suspected of being out of character with one point of reference that everyone seems to be digging at (and somehow makes me more suspect than Ryu), ever.

Also, Rosa, could you please let Ryu answer accusations against him? If I live through today, don't worry, you'll have your time.

Sigh... this is a bad habit of mine, isn't it?

 

[Orboknown]

No no i meant the quotes themselves lok

 

[Orboknown]

Someone should discuss things with me if anyone's in thread.

Define things

 

[RosalinaSGS]

how did you come to the conclusion that Orbo is probs scum?

tbh, not too sure. But if I had to say you, you and you are scum, then Orbo would be scum because of ThatSmasher's actions, but really not sure...

 

[#HBC | J]

Define things

Anything mainly. I'm trying to debate where I would look at specifically depending on Sparky flips since there could be 3 scenarios.

 

[RosalinaSGS]

No no i meant the quotes themselves lok

um... lok?
They're evidence of him scumhunting (kinda)

 

[Orboknown]

Anything mainly. I'm trying to debate where I would look at specifically depending on Sparky flips since there could be 3 scenarios.

Lay ouf whatchu thinking and I'll give my thoughts, cuz im ****in around on xeno since rske fell asleep on me

 

[#HBC | J]

Well let' see. I have a few questions actually that is making me think intently.

If Sparky flips Mafia, who is his most likely final partner and who is Slick's?
If he flips WW, then who would be the most likely duo pair to be mafia?
If he is town, who would be the 2 mafia then and who'd be Slick's partner?

For me, I've got Zalak could be since he tried to delay the Sparky lynch toDay and him and Sparky have had an odd couple "nods and agrees" to each other. Sparky and RR could be interpreted as light bussing towards each other. In this scneario, Rosa would be the WW.
If he flips WW, I think the most likely duo pair would probably make me lean towards RR/Rosa and have Zalak as the final townie with you and I.
IF he is town, then I would say Rosa would be Slick's partner and then RR/Zalak, but that is such an odd pairing that I do not get at all. If he flips town, I would have to re-evaluate my town-read on your slot Orbo because in my other theories I am banking on you being town, but this scenario is the hardest one because I have not yet thought of Sparky possibly flipping town until now really.

These are just hypotheticals to pass the discussion till deadline because it seems Sparky lynch is inevitable since everyone said they want to vote him.

 

[#HBC | J]

If that didn't make sense, lemme know and I'll try to clarify.

In my mind because it's a very Colorado night.

 

[Orboknown]

Well let' see. I have a few questions actually that is making me think intently.

If Sparky flips Mafia, who is his most likely final partner and who is Slick's?
If he flips WW, then who would be the most likely duo pair to be mafia?
If he is town, who would be the 2 mafia then and who'd be Slick's partner?

For me, I've got Zalak could be since he tried to delay the Sparky lynch toDay and him and Sparky have had an odd couple "nods and agrees" to each other. Sparky and RR could be interpreted as light bussing towards each other. In this scneario, Rosa would be the WW.

what makes you think ryu couldn't be ww here? The little comment and him swinging slick after i talked to him yesterday? Granted i could see ryu as being bazically any alignment at this point but i have zalek as more mafia than anything as scum

If he flips WW, I think the most likely duo pair would probably make me lean towards RR/Rosa and have Zalak as the final townie with you and I.

i think i agree with this

IF he is town, then I would say Rosa would be Slick's partner and then RR/Zalak, but that is such an odd pairing that I do not get at all. If he flips town, I would have to re-evaluate my town-read on your slot Orbo because in my other theories I am banking on you being town, but this scenario is the hardest one because I have not yet thought of Sparky possibly flipping town until now really.

dont even worry about orboscum because its not happening. If sparkies town tho id say one of rosa n zalek have to be scum if not both and either you or ryu as if the above is SvS. This is by far the least likely scenario today tho

 

[Spak]

These are just hypotheticals to pass the discussion till deadline because it seems Sparky lynch is inevitable since everyone said they want to vote him.

So I'll reverse your earlier question on you; why do you think that lynching me would be better than RR? I've stated why he seems scummy, but he's done little to nothing to defend himself and has only stated very weak reasons of why I would be a good lynch. We still have over 24 hours, and a RR lynch would be more than manageable today.

 

[#HBC | J]

So I'll reverse your earlier question on you; why do you think that lynching me would be better than RR? I've stated why he seems scummy, but he's done little to nothing to defend himself and has only stated very weak reasons of why I would be a good lynch. We still have over 24 hours, and a RR lynch would be more than manageable today.

You are more visibly scummy than RR. RR's main thing that he has against him is inactivity and light content. You are more actively scummy where your passive pushes and nothing really sticks out as doing things to find scum.

Even right now in your RR push, it doesn't look like you are pushing RR because you find him to be scum. It looks more like you are pushing him because he is the only other option for a lynch today besides your slot. It doesn't look sincere and just "welp, gotta find a replacement lynch".

RR lynch would be manageable, however, you've yet to show directly what is condemning about RR besides the fact that he should be possibly considered for toDay.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Unless Spak claims doc I really think lynching him now is the best option.

 

[Zalak]

Spak

are you the doctor

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Please answer that btw, you are the go to lynch atm.