Mini Game | Werewolves win

[Zalak]

I'm not playing games no more Zalak, you're getting your response. And you're gonna drown in the wall that's coming your way.

This is exactly what I've been asking for all game.

You've made a mistake pushing my slot when I'm town.

Even if you somehow turn out to be town, I've made the right choice by pushing you until you actually decided to defend yourself

I'm cranky because I am tired an hangry. And also dude, people have emotions/feelings lmao. I can and will say what I want.

Same goes for me. You've been berating me, so I got salty.

I swear, show me this book of mafia/the way you play because it's morbidly incorrect and you keep trying to tell me how to play mafia when I've been playing for years on this site in particular yet you act as if you have the gumption to mock me.

I'm just posting what makes sense, man.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[#HBC | J]

Pulp Fiction was my masterpiece, I just couldn't break up the Brolliance of Circus + Evil Eye in LyLo.

Rusty Guillotine was a great one as well.

You don't need to cite situations, but just let Zalak know what Pandora's box he's opened.

 

[Orboknown]

Infigured itd be easier to quote than to describe what mentally drowning in a whirlpool of fire and ice felt like

 

[Zalak]

Aren't you just stalling at this point? If you have time to hype up your incredible skills, you have time to defend yourself.

 

[#HBC | J]

I just wrote an entirely scathing post. But decided against it, you're not worth it and not worth the me not staying true to being an IC/Mod.

Just know, you'll get your post. Just literally do SOMETHING else in this game besides try to get me to sate your ego.

 

[Orboknown]

J that like from PF was mostly about the drunken mafia part for relatively recent and obvious reasons
Also

I'm gonna take a step back. The only things I am certain on with my reads and now some other info are these reads. I'm almost positive Soupa is town, and also now that RR has claimed to back up my town read on him those two reads are the things I have. Everyone else can be fair game I guess but I need to re-spread out my reads.


EE is perplexing this game. That's the perfect word to describe him. I need more from him still after seeing so much because after his case he went off the radar so till then he's back in the nulls.


Gheb I wanna say is town. At first I thought he was fluffy and a bit ominous due to the simple fact of how he is playing, he is being a bit less open with his reads at sometimes but then he comes in and says what he thinks of a majority of players at once. I haven't seen townGheb before to be all honest and all I've seen in scumGheb before and his play is intriguing to a point where I want to call him town. When he does attack someone and find them scummy he shows able support to it.


Afro I'm gonna wait to put a read on till I see their big post but atm I don't like them. The reason I don't like them is that their sporatic activity D1 and when they came in to do things just seemed like they had been timing when they posted because whenever they did it was always came in after the heat of a players battle and then when he posted his reads, his reads have been people who are very easy targets which have all flipped town as well Myself/Ranmaru/Shina/Gordy and he said he had suspicions of WL but never followed through or pushed it. He also suspected Choice but after his little post at the beginning of D1 there wasn't much seen from him regarding ChoiceScum and pushing his lynch for a while. I have already dealt with what I think of his hammer and again with the timing of coming in to hammer.


Choice is scummy. I don't like his unwillingness to do anything by himself or give the initiative to actually scum-hunt. This game has no scum-hunting from Choice and just him side-lining on this and following what the mainstream has to say. He doesn't really ever substantiate anything he says. He asks alot of questions that seem to go nowhere after he asks them and he seems to be asking them just to ask them. Everything he has done this game is reactionary and nothing has been him actually sticking his neck out into the fray but instead trying to keep his hands out of the blood. Well that's not all true considering he does vote every now and then but it's always what the general consensus agrees to. Also when attacked by WL at the end of D1 he became extremely defensive. Now when the time comes that someone has to ask for him to defend himself he just says "Nope, I think I've been defending myself well enough." when if he really had I wouldn't have had to ask the question.


WL/Circus contain one scum. Otherwise I can't think of much to comment on without re-reading things more in-depth then I already have. I'll try and think of what I have to say w.r.t. be later toDay but that's what I think.


EE, I want to know which of your scum-picks you are pushing toDay.

Choice, where is your vote going to go and why?

WL, tell me why I shouldn't vote you. You need to present more stuff if you wanna get myself lynched or you need to present stuff on Choice as well.

Circus, I am also curious to see your GhebScum thing since I think of him as town as well.

Soupa, where are you? ;_; You haven't done much this day.

Was the first one i found. Ive seen.longer posts but there are players who literally despise J for his writing....prowess we'll call it

 

[Zalak]

I'm just trying to get an actual defense from you, man, but I hear excuse after excuse.

 

[Orboknown]

I'm just trying to get an actual defense from you, man, but I hear excuse after excuse.

This is supposed to be a friendly game. Yall are just getting into the cycle of seeing how far you can stick your finger into the gators mouth without it biting your finger off. Don't keep escalating it to this level.

 

[Zalak]

This is supposed to be a friendly game. Yall are just getting into the cycle of seeing how far you can stick your finger into the gators mouth without it biting your finger off. Don't keep escalating it to this level.

I'm just frustrated because he keeps insulting me instead of actually playing the game. I've answered all of his questions, and he isn't answering mine.

@ Orboknown

Does J make posts that rad as scum?

 

[Zalak]

I just wrote an entirely scathing post. But decided against it, you're not worth it and not worth the me not staying true to being an IC/Mod.

Just know, you'll get your post. Just literally do SOMETHING else in this game besides try to get me to sate your ego.

Like no, you can't just say that and get away with it. You can't just say all I've been trying to do is get you to sate your ego. I've been trying to play this game, and you're making it impossible. The rest of the players are letting you be this difficult without consequence, and I don't like it.

 

[Orboknown]

He said he'll get at you when hes not drained from theater and ****. Give him a day then nudge him if he doesn't come through. Yeah i get its been a minute since you started this but thats when you either try and get other olayers votes or push in other angles

Yeah he'll write that kinda **** as any alignment, pri sure he was mafia in pulp fiction but not sure

 

[#HBC | J]

Listen, I agree and apologize for letting myself get into this bickering squabble that is as close to a pissing contest as it gets. I just get this way with unprecedented arrogance and when I am tired. Plus I have answered your questions, Zalak. That's all I'm gonna say. I have and I am not lying on this at all. You just don't like my responses.

If you just said you disliked my responses, that would be fine. Just calling me a liar over and over is really rubbing me the wrong way.

 

[#HBC | J]

He said he'll get at you when hes not drained from theater and ****. Give him a day then nudge him if he doesn't come through. Yeah i get its been a minute since you started this but thats when you either try and get other olayers votes or push in other angles

Yeah he'll write that kinda **** as any alignment, pri sure he was mafia in pulp fiction but not sure

Nope was town, lead every scum-lynch and got lynched in LyLo because Evil Eye-Senpai wrote better walls than I did. He buried me which had never been done before.

 

[#HBC | J]

Like no, you can't just say that and get away with it. You can't just say all I've been trying to do is get you to sate your ego. I've been trying to play this game, and you're making it impossible. The rest of the players are letting you be this difficult without consequence, and I don't like it.

I'm just saying, the common denominator is you, not me. Everyone agrees with me. No one agrees with you.

 

[Zalak]

Nope was town, lead every scum-lynch and got lynched in LyLo because Evil Eye-Senpai wrote better walls than I did. He buried me which had never been done before.

Would you say you play that well as scum though?

 

[Orboknown]

I mean
EEs the ****in canadian equivalent of a goddamn gladiator riding a unicorn to joust using a dragons tooth as a spear. He just... does it

 

[#HBC | J]

Would you say you play that well as scum though?

I play significantly worse as scum. History dictates if I am scum, I get lynched by D3 barring a ridiculous PR claim that buys me a couple days.

Reason being: I suck at lying as scum. I literally just got lynched because I was too truthful in Dgames Revival Mafia.

 

[Zalak]

That's the kind of question answering I like to see B)

Because it was a stupid accusation in the first place. I, along with a few others, never even gave it a second thought, and even argued against it.

@*GenericHandle* Give me your thoughts on TSYK. I'd also like to know why you say I'm playing it safe.

Okay, here's my reads:

TSYK: SCUM (I don't buy the whole noob thing. I keep seeing people saying "Well he's posting better" but I haven't seen that at all
Red Ryu: Null - He really needs to post more.
Generic: Slight slight slight town (His points against me have been pretty good and hasn't just tried to force a vote)
GreedReaper: Scum read. I don't like the way he brought me up and TSYK on day 2.
On page 25, GreenReaper said this:
"ThatSmasherYouKnow is still pretty suspicious in my eyes. He needs some more investigation though as one of my points against him turned out to be false. I also want to hear more from Spak. Most of his posts seem to just be explaining why he hasn't been active. In addition, I've got a bad feeling about the Omar slot.
Also, I see some people think Slick might be scum, while I've got him as a town lean. What exactly makes him suspicious? Did I miss something?"
HBC J: Null - I hear he's an experienced player, so I doubt he'd give himself away super easily. I really want to hear him make a strong statement about someone.
KingOfKoopas: Null - People were accusing him on day one, but that seems to have stopped.
Spak - Slight Scum read - Hasn't posted enough. None of his posts have been that helpful in my opinion. Is he the one who said we should hang RedRyu do to inactivity? Because if so, that's a huge red flag.
Zalak: Slight slight scum read - I know I'm going to be alone in this, but I think he seems too town. Whenever someone goes out of their way to post funny things, it seems suspicious to me. For those who play with him, does he play the same way every game?
Rosalina- Haven't really seen too much to base an opinion on. But I'll agree with others that he doesn't seem to have contributed that much to the conversation.

My top 3 scum reads:
TSYK
GreenReaper
Spak
Who am I missing?

@ Orboknown so what do you make of this list? you said it would be good to look into.
also @ RosalinaSGS @ #HBC | J @ Spak and @Red Ryu ?

I'd personally want to look at his null reads, because I feel like Slick's playstyle kinda dictates that he doesn't post strong opinions on his buddy, so he can change his mind later.

This is speculation, but that's how I feel Slick has been playing this game. He always has a plan B.

THEREFORE, this list makes me worry about j, Rosa, and Red, but Red really hadn't posted that much, so I kinda see that as a more natural response from Slick.

 

[Orboknown]

Uhhhh
Didnt look into it because xenoverse shenanigans and chinese food
Yeah

 

[Zalak]

 

[Zalak]

Sorry if I was rude @ #HBC | J , but I stand by most of what I said.

I'm probably gonna log off for the night, but I might be back.

 

[Orboknown]

Phones being stupid but byakuya kuchiki was gonna give his look of indifference atchu

 

[Orboknown]

 

[Spak]

You've made a mistake pushing my slot when I'm town.

This may have been misworded, but asking the IC J, shouldn't people try pushing everyone's slots in a game of Mafia? Like, maybe not as far as Zalak did unless someone's sure the other person is scum, but still, town is failing if there's an unpushed slot.

 

[Orboknown]

So....
Yeah. Spak/ryu yall have anything to say? Rosa?

 

[Zalak]

@Red Ryu

Come to think of it, you were a lot more active in my first game with you than you have been in this game. What's up yo?

 

[#HBC | J]

Hey guys, I'm taking a mental personal health day so I won't be posting today.

 

[Zalak]

Aren't you just stalling at this point? If you have time to hype up your incredible skills, you have time to defend yourself.

@ #HBC | J
I WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY APOLOGIZE FOR THIS POST. It didn't really add to the game at all.

 

[Zalak]

@ Orboknown

so I notice you've been checking the thread a lot. Did you make any connections by looking into Slick's old posts?

 

[Zalak]

@ #HBC | J

Like, I really did get out of hand at times, and I kinda lost track of the point of the game in those moments. For that, I sincerely apologize.

I do still very much stand by the recent points I made on how your play this game has been very scummy, but there was a lot of unnecessary dissing in there.

 

[Zalak]

@ Spak

I SEE YA LURKING.

any connection you can make based on slick/koopa's deaths?

thoughts on whom we should look at today?

 

[Spak]

@ Spak

I SEE YA LURKING.

any connection you can make based on slick/koopa's deaths?

thoughts on whom we should look at today?

Honestly, I think we should look at everyone, but J, maybe RR, andand maybe you will probably be my main focuses today. The Koops NK I can't get much off of because of inactivity, and I'll have to re-read Koops interactions.

 

[Spak]

*Slick's interactions

 

[Orboknown]

@ Orboknown

so I notice you've been checking the thread a lot. Did you make any connections by looking into Slick's old posts?

I told you
Thread adhd
Also i didn't pick up anything offhand.

 

[RosalinaSGS]

Ryu's been ridiculously inactive. I'm up for lynching him. Also fine with Spak. (Main reason: Apparent presence yet without making any sort of impact. Isn't indicative of any sort of scumhunting or significantly townie play)

Out of the other three, I'm really not sure.

J: He hasn't posted anything particularly damning. He's gotten ticked off at Zalak again, and as far as I can see he hasn't answered his questions. But he says he has, and I get the feeling I'm missing something big. @ Orboknown Thoughts on this?

Orbo: Kinda similar to J except instead of not answering questions, ThatSmasher's play is incriminating. But I could also see his play as merely scum, so logically, Orbo's slot should actually be one of the towniest. However, he also feels a bit absent, like Spak. I see his posts, and he talks with J and posts reads, but I don't get that much scumhunting/ initiative from him, so out of these three, he's probably the scummiest.

Zalak: Originally, I had him solidly as scum, with NK analysis and all the hype with J. But right now, that's mostly feeling T v. T. Zalak's points are... interesting (would like to hear J's reply), and it shows an obvious attempt at scumhunting. However, in some ways it feels contrived, having run throughout the entire game without end. It has cluttered the thread, without actually doing too much in its entirety. So... Zalak's also feels sus, but Orbo's previous slot's play and his current 'absence' are most telling imo, though it is close.

Town:
J & (maybe) Zalak

To-lynch list (in order):
Spak
RR
Orbo

 

[Zalak]

J: He hasn't posted anything particularly damning. He's gotten ticked off at Zalak again, and as far as I can see he hasn't answered his questions. But he says he has, and I get the feeling I'm missing something big.

Don't you think it might be this kinda attitude that J has that is causing my push on him to get no where? Right now, he can pretty much do whatever he wants, and he'll be fine, so he doesn't really HAVE to do defend himself. I think if the rest of the players could recognize the problem, and actually throw down a vote or two if he doesn't defend himself properly, we could actually get him on the defensive, and actually get the J investigation going somewhere, but I keep hearing people posting on the side of J, which is counterproductive IMO.

 

[Zalak]

Like, you're all giving him a free pass on everything that he does, and I really don't see why.

 

[Spak]

Ryu's been ridiculously inactive. I'm up for lynching him. Also fine with Spak. (Main reason: Apparent presence yet without making any sort of impact. Isn't indicative of any sort of scumhunting or significantly townie play)

That's nice and all, but I did make somewhat of an impact. I had the J push on 43-ish, tried to get people to re-analyze your play and look for possible scummy intent (which to be honest I haven't had the time to do), I was big on both the Generic and Rad pushes (which made me re-evaluate the speed at which I was pushing everyone and try to evaluate for noobish play, seeing as we only had two ICs at the time), and have answered all questions that I've been given. If you look over the thread thus far, I have caught a LOT of misinformation and corrected it. My playstyle is naturally passive, and it's gotten me almost lynched multiple times on these boards. I also don't generate as much content whenever I'm defending myself, because I'm worrying about Town being in MyLo and in a possible lose-state tomorrow if I get lynched today and another townie gets NK'd.

Also, I think that RR's inactiveness is VERY scummy behavior. He's been V/LA for a marriage (understandable), but literally nothing else has gone explained. I'm starting to think that this statment:

Why am I not a coasting WW, I wish I was.

that seemed a bit too unnatural at the time is starting to look more like a forced joke from a coasting scum trying to convince us that he's townie.

 

[Zalak]

I told you
Thread adhd
Also i didn't pick up anything offhand.

alright, well I think it'd be COOL if you could eventually look into those Slick posts you quoted a bit ago, cuz you said you thought they would be good to investigate. I get that you wanna hear from the other players, and I totally agree with that, but I also kinda wanna hear more from you right now.

 

[Spak]

(I also forgot to mention that the exchange between Orbo and RR made RR look pretty suspicious. RR's insistence on Orbo's slot being scum based purely on noobish D1 play that was more bad than it was scummy is flat-out ridiculous.)