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If no ones answered you yet, (cause **** me if I'm scrolling through 1,300 messages) Doc Punch has been buffed in damage and knockback, Dr. Tornado has the slightest bit less ending lag, and up smash now sends opponents to the side.
By Doc Punch, do you mean f-air? Because I'm positive that his up B was unchanged. Also, I have to test the Tornado. That sounds like placebo but could be true. If that's the case, are his customs affected and is Luigi's cyclone plus customs affected?
Doc Punch/Doc Hit means F-air. It's been a term since Melee.
Yes, Doc Punch is fair. I forgot to test his customs, but you can definitely shield after the Tornado a split second quicker in 1.0.6 than you could in 0.4. Luigi is completely unchanged with the exception of his Fireball, which really isn't enough to do anything.
Nope; I've tested this side-by-side repeatedly.
I'd like to know this as well. Hopefully they're here sooner rather than later.
I may be one of very few people who were Exclusive to Wii U prior to the patch and have been exclusive to the 3DS after the patch. That is why I was so convinced that it was the patch changed it, the two games are supposed to be identical as far as characters are concerned.
Apparently Pac-Man's grab on 3DS animates a bit differently (though is functionally the exact same in every way). And since most people did their testing by comparing an unpatched 3DS with patched WiiU while ignorant of the gameplay differences between the two (most notably the larger blastzones on 3DS stages), led people to thinking his grab got altered in the patch (along with innumerable false claims of attacks KOing about 10-20% sooner).
Pac Man's grab is more than just an animation difference. You are correct about people comparing it to the unpatched 3DS version but even the patched version has the the different animation. The grab animation on the Wii U takes almost twice as long on the Wii U as it does on the 3DS which is more than enough to call it functionally different. On the 3DS the grab is slightly shorter and does not linger at maximum length which makes the grab duration significantly different/shorter. On the 3DS you can do 9 grabs back to back in about 11 seconds. If you do 9 grabs back to back on the Wii U it takes about 20 seconds. Pac Man missing a grab on the 3DS is much less easy to punish than on the Wii U.
They have different animations and the exact same start-up, endlag and hitbox. It is not faster on the 3DS and this has been debunked about 5 different times in this very thread.
I've tested it as well, and there is a slight difference.
I just tested it yet again right now (side-by-side), and it's exactly the same.
The tip. It says Luigi's fireball doesn't travel as far, but doesn't lose power as it leaves him. It now does.
He is talking about one of the tips that you can read in the Tips section of the Vault. It is titled "Luigi: Fireball". Another one that needs to be changed is the one titled "The Three Lightest Fighters".
There was one changed for Zelda. "
The first one seems to be for the Wii U version while the second one seems to be for the 3DS version, according to the two respective articles in the Smash Wiki site.
Yep he did...makes that weird squawk sound when he dives.
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Could you have a little spoiler box listing off whatever new thing was found and added to the list of changes?
I heard it was patched out.
Nope. They don't do anything anymore, but the old replays recorded of the glitches still play.
That tells me that whatever data the glitch tricked the game into looking at is still there, they just closed the loophole that let us tell the game to look there in the first place. Mildly interesting, I guess.
