!!!RM!!!
Smash Journeyman
kthx Kaffei. :D
And yes. Traps are the sexiest thing alive. XD
And yes. Traps are the sexiest thing alive. XD
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Meta Knight Q&A Thread
- Thread starter Dojo
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Player-4
See you in 25 years
Shuttle loop
Robfox
Smash Lord
I got a ?
what do you guys think about MK ban? Obv most of you want to keep him for biased reasoning, but try to answer from an unbiased point of view please.
what do you guys think about MK ban? Obv most of you want to keep him for biased reasoning, but try to answer from an unbiased point of view please.
Player-4
See you in 25 years
Sorry, that's not something that's really going to be answered. All this topic does is bring about trolling/flaming. So just leave it be.
Robfox
Smash Lord
kay, understandable. Another ?
How do I nado up? Like use nado, but make it go up I have done it but I dont go far the furthest I went was maybe a platform nd a half off BF ground -__-
How do I nado up? Like use nado, but make it go up I have done it but I dont go far the furthest I went was maybe a platform nd a half off BF ground -__-
Player-4
See you in 25 years
The faster you press B while holding up on your control stick will make it rise. If you have upward momentum from something like a jump it will make it rise even more.
Kaffei
Smash Hero
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No I'm not biased
I'd rather ban him but that's just me
Also, if you're on the ground and use Dimensional Cape in place it'll go up higher
/useless info
Since he is not broken I don´t see a point for a ban. (there are lots of tourney viable chars and chars, which got solid matchups vs. MKs)
It´s much worse with some characters in other fighting games.
MK dominates smash to a pretty small amount and thats also, because of the high amount of MK players.
If you allow planking and scrooging, then I think MK is actually broken and should be banned, but since I think planking is a broken technic in general you can just ban the technic (just like infinite dimensional cape) and not the character, since it´s not necessary at all.
Using Down-B in place before using Neutral B causes it to rise for some reason.
S0L3R
Smash Rookie
Agreed fully.
!!!RM!!!
Smash Journeyman
It's not like every MK main out there is M2K or Dojo and always places top 5. MK's just a character with options that cover more situations than any other character can.
Makaveli tha Don
Smash Apprentice
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On top of that, it is possible to beat him. Every character in smash has worked out a game plan to take into the match against MK. A smart player will know what to do, and a good strategy certainly can work.
Matches from local tourneys all the way up to Apex and Genesis have shown that it's not impossible to beat MK and its one less reason to ban him.
Matches from local tourneys all the way up to Apex and Genesis have shown that it's not impossible to beat MK and its one less reason to ban him.
BlueZebra
Smash Journeyman
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Is it weird that a MK main really wouldn't mind if his character got banned?
I don't feel MK is broken BUT the results are getting really boring to look at it. Everyone has a pocket MK. I really wouldn't mind if MK gets a temp ban just to see how would the meta game evolve without the first MU you need to learn is MK, or the fact at almost any tournament you ever go to, you WILL play someone who uses the character.
The part that's most annoying about it, 1 out of 100 people picked up MK because they feel they need to get backpacked by MK's awesomeness. I played him and Pika when the game first came out, had no clue what tier they were in, and picked them right back up when I got back into playing in October. =/
I just want to see different characters on the results list. Too many bats, man.
I don't feel MK is broken BUT the results are getting really boring to look at it. Everyone has a pocket MK. I really wouldn't mind if MK gets a temp ban just to see how would the meta game evolve without the first MU you need to learn is MK, or the fact at almost any tournament you ever go to, you WILL play someone who uses the character.
The part that's most annoying about it, 1 out of 100 people picked up MK because they feel they need to get backpacked by MK's awesomeness. I played him and Pika when the game first came out, had no clue what tier they were in, and picked them right back up when I got back into playing in October. =/
I just want to see different characters on the results list. Too many bats, man.
KassandraNova
Smash Master
Honestly I think a lot of people wouldn't mind him banned. It'd be fun learning a new character. We'd have a lot of catching up to do too. :X
BlueZebra
Smash Journeyman
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Better than MK Dittos in my book. I can't stay awake watching those.
!!!RM!!!
Smash Journeyman
I wouldn't mind MK getting banned. Just pick up a new character, apply what you know about smash to that new character, and start again.
@BlueZebra: A lot of people may have a pocket MK and there's a lot more MKs than any other character at tournaments, but really the same could be said of fox and falco with Melee, and nobody sees them as ban-worthy. :/ I don't recall any real top level players like Rich Brown or Atomsk advocating MK's banning(although they've probably considered it at one point or another) and they're the ones who actually understand the game and its characters better than anyone else really. That just leaves Mid and Low level players who actually advocate the ban. Low level players certainly do not have a firm understanding of what causes a character to be ban-worthy in the first place. Its not that he has a larger error margin than any other character, or because he has a plethora of options compared to half the cast. What makes a character ban-worthy is if the character is agreed to create a degenerate metagame that focuses solely on him, and a ban is required to keep the game diverse and progressive.
@BlueZebra: A lot of people may have a pocket MK and there's a lot more MKs than any other character at tournaments, but really the same could be said of fox and falco with Melee, and nobody sees them as ban-worthy. :/ I don't recall any real top level players like Rich Brown or Atomsk advocating MK's banning(although they've probably considered it at one point or another) and they're the ones who actually understand the game and its characters better than anyone else really. That just leaves Mid and Low level players who actually advocate the ban. Low level players certainly do not have a firm understanding of what causes a character to be ban-worthy in the first place. Its not that he has a larger error margin than any other character, or because he has a plethora of options compared to half the cast. What makes a character ban-worthy is if the character is agreed to create a degenerate metagame that focuses solely on him, and a ban is required to keep the game diverse and progressive.
BlueZebra
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I've seen people play Fox, Falco, Sheik, Marth, Jiggs, and Cpt.Falcon. A lot more diversity than just one character. But I'd rather not compare the two games.
My point wasn't about what high leveled players feel about meta knight or how good he is. I dislike the consistency. I also feel the meta game hasn't evolved enough due to the overplayed bat ball.
Edit: also, I would love to try out my Olimar or Pika in a tournaments more often in tournaments without a worry about a bat ball ***** slapping me with uairs. D:
My point wasn't about what high leveled players feel about meta knight or how good he is. I dislike the consistency. I also feel the meta game hasn't evolved enough due to the overplayed bat ball.
Edit: also, I would love to try out my Olimar or Pika in a tournaments more often in tournaments without a worry about a bat ball ***** slapping me with uairs. D:
Meta Knight dittos are one of the most entertaining match-ups for me. I'm sure that many other players feel the same way.
I also think a lot of people would quit the game, because they have put too much time into the character.
Another problem about MK is, that he had M2K as one of the main supporters of from the start, so that the characters metagame evolved much faster, which made lots of people playing the character.
M2K started with King Dedede, not Meta Knight.
BlueZebra
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I remember watching a video with him playing against a Wario main and there were a ton of obnoxious *******s in the background making fun of him. I really enjoyed watched that match though because he pretty much drowned them out and won anyway.
I'd like to see him pick up King Dedede again but I somewhat doubt that'll happen unless mk really does get banned. /shrugs
Snake was ranked over MK, before M2K started playing him.
He played DDD for less than half of a year, but MK for 2+ years now.
That was M2K vs. Reflex and they weren't making fun of M2K; they were trash talking.
Welcome to the South.
It doesn't matter that M2K has played Meta Knight longer; he still began with King Dedede. Also, I believe that Forte was the best Meta Knight main before M2K picked him up. At the very least, M2K first learned the character from Forte.
Robfox
Smash Lord
Orion*
Smash Researcher
the time he played that character was so short rofl
KassandraNova
Smash Master
Toblerone? God tier chocolate? Yes or no?
Player-4
See you in 25 years
Gonzalo Barrios
Smash Apprentice
KassandraNova
Smash Master
Heh, you guys talkin about liking nuts, this isn't the peach boards you know!
Jk I <3 peachies
Jk I <3 peachies
Gonzalo Barrios
Smash Apprentice
Orion*
Smash Researcher
ive been learning it slowly but surelyThanks
btw claw grip is like WTF 0__o
It looks so painful
i switched back to default controls in december instead of
z attack
l jump
x grab
Gonzalo Barrios
Smash Apprentice
I used to play halo 2 and 3, so I HAD to claw in order to play, so in brawl it's pretty easy to me to claw with a GC.
But I have my tricks too. Sometimes I claw for everything in a game and sometimes not. It's weird.
Robfox
Smash Lord
That configuration jus makes me go (X_X) *dead*
Why? is claw grip really needed for Halo? (I hate X-box, PS3 all dai)
Pitzer
The Young Lion
Nah you wanna know the weirdest Control set I got you
R = Special
Tilt Stick
L = Jump
Down Taunt = Grab
Z = Shield
Side taunts = Attack
Tap Jump Off
R = Special
Tilt Stick
L = Jump
Down Taunt = Grab
Z = Shield
Side taunts = Attack
Tap Jump Off