This is why I find Macman very suspicious. Not outting out his personal visits while confirming both N0 and N3 visits while N1 and N2 are in the dark? This is why I want Macman to really co-operate with the visits so as to help confirm things.As far as you 'guessing right' remains unclear, you are still indeed scum.
They're called the facts, and they don't always line up the way they want you to, scummo. He's endorsing my Watches because my Watching has been accurate. The end.
To everyone else: Don't let this sway you against Mac. Rockin is saying "I think Macman is scummy because he's backing up EE, who I insist is scum." With all the evidence that has been presented, there are two primary possibilities here: Mac and I are ballsy scum backing each other's lies, or Rockin is scum and floundering without a handhold, accusing Macman because it's the only way to legitimize his accusation of me. One of these is vastly more likely than the other.
Let's take a look at 'your role.' Whoever you watch, you can see a projectile or something of that nature. First of all, your power would be pretty useless on a field like this. The only way this becomes useful is if the person nameclaims/roleclaims and even following that, that leaves several characters to see if he's really telling the truth. Let's say you saw Macman put up his shield. Look at the list of other characters who uses shields
Woodman
Starman
Skullman
Jewelman
Actually, I
already covered almost every single point you just made over a week ago in the post where I first claimed. Maybe you should take care to, I dunno
read it.
I quite specifically stated that my ability would seem useless, but could prove very useful in verifying nameclaims and as a supplementary investigation. As for the fact that seeing a barrier could point to Star Man, Skull Man, Jewel Man.... uh, what the hell is your point? They all lend to the same type of ability. The
exact. Same. Ability. A barrier of [object] that floats around a person. The distinction doesn't matter in the slightest.
Also, I wouldn't see a "blaster". A blaster is a type of weapon. I see a projectile, a specific thing being done to the person I'm watching. So your hypothetical is already out the window before it got off the ground. Swing and a miss.
There's about at least one other who attacks with a blaster and even then, your power is pretty much useless for those like Topman, who uses themselves as a weapon. Your role power is too general and leaves others to slip into the cracks by effectivly claiming a character. However, my role basically show the name of players who visited them.
Um. I don't know what would happen if I watched Topman, but hurp durp, a Watcher is kind of useless for most people with intrinsic abilities in the first place. I don't think a Watcher in traditional mafia would see a BP strapping a vest to themself, or "visiting themself". Oh but hey, Topman isn't even in the game.
Second of all... no, no it doesn't. My power narrows it down to a very specific category and gives a very tight window of possible claims per projectile observed. I'm pretty sure if I see a barrier on someone and they later claim Skull Man, I can put two and two together.
Lastly, your supposed "role"? Uh yeah, so you say. The bingo nature of it is kind of one of the reasons I refuse to believe it. Especially with your "uh uh oh wait well maybe..." inconsistencies that are popping up left and right.
Also, even if your role was real, how is it that on N0, you saw both MACMANS's power AND Iggy's power? This means you should've been only to see Iggy's grenade on Macman and not Macman using the power himself. Sounds like a slip there, especially if you claimed 'watcher.'
Completely ******** nonpoint, grasping at straws. I
watched a
barrier on Macman, you dolt. It's not a slip. I see
all active projectiles. Skull Barrier was
one of those projectiles. I don't think I can hammer it in any better, but I don't think I need to. You obviously know exactly what I meant, and are desperately trying to nitpick anything you can spin into a flaw.
It's not working.
Fun Fact: In Spidey Mafia Nicholas1024 watched Kiki perform an action on himself on N2.
This is a semi dumb reason to look at me scummy (and possibly, the main reason on me in general). If Scav has made a edit with the power so as to make it more useful, then he possibly has. As said before, Marshy visited Iggy. I'm not sure why everyone thinks this is unlikely, especially when several game mods have been recently putting up new roles in their game. Granted, this may not be a new role, but it could be a role Scav has personally fixed up. Not sure why everyone thinks this is unlikely, especially since I posted my findings of Marshy visiting after Mentosman and Smashman spoke their take on the Lightkeeper.
Not a dumb reason at all. On the night that someone was voteblocked you claim to have not seen the voteblocker, which is a gaping tear in your supposed role's logic, and to have seen a role that should not be visiting people and has no reason TO visit them.
The fact that you said it flat out does nothing to refute the logical flaws inherent to the statement. And by the way, there are plenty of other reasons mentioned in my post -- and plenty more to find, I'm sure.
No I didn't. I was basically wtf about it. He came out of NO WHERE, told who he was, and then basically gave his 2 cents. I was VERY very confused because I thought either Smashman or Hando were the DV. However, I listened to him a bit more and looked at everyone's reaction and I was a bit more calm with him around.
Yeah this does nothing to refute the tone of what you first said as I pointed it out. Nothing at all. This is just another insistence that you weren't trying to smear him, and it definitely looks like you were sewing the seeds of distrust.
It wasn't perfect. Macman was going 'LOL I'M TOWN! I'M ALWAYS TOWN. LYNCH IGGY' constantly. It made me wonder if he was really telling the truth or not. His whole reaction was basically him going off like I did in N1 on MexicanBJ. Unlike Macman, I had the personal chance to kill Mexican (who was replaced by warioman) and was really hoping I was just panicking. But alas, he wasn't, I shot him with a big post (that Maf took advantage of), and warioman/mexican was town. Go me =/
If someone puts a posting restriction on you, then claims to have the same posting restriction and tries to get you lynched on that means alone, yes, it
is a perfectly rational suspicion. The funny thing is you were more on Iggy about flavor BS -- sound familiar? -- than this fact, and I think the real reason anyone was ever suspicious of him soared ten feet over your head while you kept babbling on and on about how Grenade Man couldn't tell friend from foe... which was never anyone's argument but your own.
It's nothing like what you did to Mex at
all. Mex was you taking well-deserved heat from another townie and killing him for it. Mac was picked from the first seconds of this game's beginning and targeted for absolutely no reason. It's not the same. It's not even close.
Also, explain to me how my visits are "just wrong" instead of stating it as a fact, kthx. I already cast a light on your dubious decision to supposedly watch Wikipedia, someone who was 100% either antitown or not going to be nightkilled. You don't get to just say my visits are "wrong" as though your opinion makes it fact. Mine were all logical watches.
That's what you think. My prime skills in that Mafia game was to be smart and use logical choices. Instead of doing the most obvious choice, you do the more logical choice. It's Junglefever's fault for falling for the manipulation move I did on him. Others possibly falling for the same thing may vary, but making others do stupid things isn't my prime skill.
Hahahahaha. Ha. Logical choices? Like taking my bait on both a roleblock AND a kill? Both of which I was trying to attract specifically to take them away from useful people like Tom?
Seems like you weren't as hot as you remember.
Though you have reminded me of your other skill as mafia -- playing off your scummy actions with the dumb/silly card, which got me off your *** when I had you pegged in TLI. It's sure as hell not going to work this time.
On N2, after hearing Tom claim tracker, I roleblocked NO one in that night and went for the kill of Frozenflame. Tom tracked me that night and confronted me, where I was in the perfect situation to claim as Roleblocker (cause you know, I'd been ****ed if I roleblocked someone). I survived that night and I began to make sure my other members stood out of spotlight from that moment on. So yeah, nice try, EE.
Sounds more like you got lucky. And that's one good action versus two where you fell into ploys of my own, so yeah. Not buying it, Rockin. And nice attempt at a topical derail -- you completely skirted my point about you being good at encouraging insidious betrayal. But I didn't forget.
He DOES NOT have the power to freeze time. Pharoh Man had the power to throw mystical energy balls at Mega Man. Not freeze time. That's why I saw it as a 'backup nameclaim' plan.
I'm 98% sure I remember him freezing time when I fought him. Timefreezing Robot Masters don't only have one power, you know. And even if I'm wrong, it's irrelevant. The point is that you were grasping at straws, and you were, and you are.
Really, it's something that I can't personally explain. If I saw Chaco actually visited Iggy on D1, then I probably would've been more calm after he got day killed by wiki. But yeah, I can't really explain this one. It just seems like the night roles work differently on some players.
"Yeah I dunno I do not have an answer to this
gargantuan, cavernous hole in my claim. But my claim is still totally better than yours, which has been completely consistent."
Saying you don't have an answer for something does not equate to an answer to it.
I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Getting the names of people is more effective and reliable then getting the possible flavors of each of those that visits that same person. Again, your powers (if they're even 'yours') are too general where as mine is a bit more specific.
Too bad they apparently don't work. Either you're a malfunctioning robot, or a lying one.
Oh, and I only suggested the first part facetiously. You're scum.
I said 'I believe,' because I'm not really sure myself. I should see all that targets the said person I'm watching, but there's the event of N1 and D3, which I can't really explain at all. I should be able to see both projectiles and personal visits, but then there's Chaco's gutsman, to which he's possibly the only exception to my power.
But, of course, if you couldn't see Chaco, then you admit it's possible that you can't see me firing my Search Snakes (in the "hypothetical" scenario that they're real), or Macman firing his Skull Barrier, or Mentos firing his Quick Boomerang... or anything that is not a personal visit.
But hey, at least you can see roles that have no reason to perform a visitation performing a visitation!!! At least you can do that!
"I should be able to do a bunch of stuff but for some reason I can't."
Well, I'm convinced!
I'm basically bashing off to that cracker-jack power you claim to have.
Ohhhhh no you don't. No. You. Don't.
You don't get to put this back on me. I did
not claim a tracker, so that's completely irrelevant. I pretty specifically said that my Search Snakes
watch my target, so quit with the semantical BS, it really doesn't suit you.
I pointed out a huge possible scumslip and you tried to shirk it and throw it back at me. I'm not having it, and it only digs you deeper into what is already a hundred foot trench. You're scum.
This is going to turn into "nuh-uh no way", I'm sure, so I'm going to stop wasting my time and start trying to puzzle out smashman and mentos. I've quite thoroughly explained how Rockin's posts and arguments have been complete nonsense bull
shit toDay, and when the time comes and we've dealt with our more pressing issues, I'll show that this has been the case since Day 1 for you -- about the only thing that HAS had consistency for you in this game.
just needed it to hit within 48 hours of the deadline(tomorrow night) and we could freeze the votes of the day. And so, the town doublevoter will officially be deadline lynched when the deadline hits no matter what you guys do