MegaMafia | Day 4 - Mafia wins!

[Rockin]

I dunno what the hell happen, but apparantly something stopped another kill. Not sure exactly what, but I'll take it as a blessing

HOPEFULLY more people would be active this time

 

[Wikipedia]

So I personally think that the person that has a roleblocking ability (or anyone with a similar insight) should claim and claim who they roleblocked because it was probably the mafia leader.

Also, who is voteblocked today?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Also, if EvilEye doesn't speak up today, I think we should strongly consider lynching him.

What do people think about a full roleclaim?

 

[Rockin]

Nah, however I'm in for a nameclaim.

 

[Rockin]

Gah, sorry. I should explain that LOL <~~~n000b

I'm not into a full roleclaim cause we'll quickly get picked off one by one by Mafs. I rather we do a nameclaim. It'll be easier to track down Mafs IMO.

 

[Handorin]

So I personally think that the person that has a roleblocking ability (or anyone with a similar insight) should claim and claim who they roleblocked because it was probably the mafia leader.

Also, who is voteblocked today?

Why would one person being roleblocked stop the whole mafia from doing the kill? That's silly. Role fishing today?

Gah, sorry. I should explain that LOL <~~~n000b

I'm not into a full roleclaim cause we'll quickly get picked off one by one by Mafs. I rather we do a nameclaim. It'll be easier to track down Mafs IMO.

You realize that it is pretty much the same thing? Once we name claim, there are only a few actions we are capable of doing (or at least, the mafia can deduce which one might be a bigger potential threat).

 

[Handorin]

EBWOP:
I'm not 100% a name/role claim, it's just something we might need to have in out pocket. We aren't at mylo yet.

9 players, 3 mafia. 9 - 1 -1 = 7 tomorrow and lylo, unless you are worried about the indy being able to joint with the mafia.

 

[mentosman8]

No time for much, but agree with Hando... The way the games appeared so far, names and roles are definitely related, and since we still have a ml it doesn't seem entirely worth giving the mafia that much of a hint. I think we're best served saving it till lylo tomorrow.

Also, unless I'm missing something, we have not had any claims of roleblocking this game, so why would you jump to that as a conclusion mac?(Unless, as I said, I missed something D1/2

 

[#HBC | Mac]

What?

I wonder if mafia has safe name claims.

 

[Chaco]

I wouldn't want to risk it, but it seems like something we might need to do.

I'd rather not at all, but ****, unless we hit scum today we might have to.

Vote: Wiki

I still want him dead.

 

[Chaco]

Actually, I'm okay with him or Smash still. I feel we have a high chance of nailing scum there.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

What about Hando or EE? I'm also starting to come around to smashy

 

[Chaco]

Hando, I want to watch more. I don't feel comfortable with him.

EE, Lurkers get lynched. I hate policy, but he hasn't brought **** since mid-D1.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Oh more obvious points of discussion:

How scummy do you think the people on the iggy vote are? Does it make you more suspicious of them? I just realized, that in order to have a more successful lynch, there needs to be more then 1 potential lynch candidate. Because had there been someone else yesterday competing with iggy in votes, more than 4 people would have had their vote on someone, and we'd be able to see who people chose. Not allowng mafia to just sit back.

Also, it's very possible that a doc saved. Like the possible roleblocker, do you think the doc should come out with who they saved? Giving us 2 confirmed innos. Do you guys think that mafia could have possibly no-killed yesterday?

Does EE's lurkiness bother you? What about smashman's flavor crap?

 

[Chaco]

At this point, I don't know if sacrificing doc for scum would be good. That's something I do not want to do unless necessary.

Here's my list of people who can die:
Wiki
Smash
Possibly Hando
And EE

We knock people off of that list with doc claim and save and it could help. I guess. I really don't wanna do it yet.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Pretty similar to my list actually, though in like reverse and Hando being on top.

 

[Wikipedia]

Oh that's very true. I'm not sure why I assumed it would be a roleblocking ability. It was actually a lot more likely to be a doc save. In this case the doc shouldn't claim. Sorry about the confusion.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

btw, now is not the time to just react to what others are saying. If you are town and want to win this game, then you need to actively contribute which could be as simple as telling us who you get a scummy vibe from.

This and the post before it wasn't aimed at anyone in specific, the 'you' I was using was more of a general one. So everyone should try to give input on the points i brought up.

 

[Chaco]

Seriously, you're about as helpful as a brick wall.

 

[Chaco]

A brick wall that is not meant for support, that is.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

request ee replacement

 

[#HBC | Mac]

btw, now is not the time to just react to what others are saying. If you are town and want to win this game, then you need to actively contribute which could be as simple as telling us who you get a scummy vibe from.

This and the post before it wasn't aimed at anyone in specific, the 'you' I was using was more of a general one. So everyone should try to give input on the points i brought up.

oops, I hit edit instead of quote, the second part of this post was meant to be a new post with the top portion quoted. The top part is the original post.

 

[smashman90]

What about smashman's flavor crap?

Forgetting that I haven't posted much "flavor crap" recently? I've actually been productive somewhat since I was trying to defend Iggy near the end of D1 (I think it was late D1).

At this point, I don't know if sacrificing doc for scum would be good. That's something I do not want to do unless necessary.

I agree with you there. Revealing the doc or whoever prevented the mafia from getting ngiht kill could be a bad thing. We should do it only if we need to and I don't think we really need to just yet.

@ Chaco, who was that "brick wall" statement aimed at? Macman or Wiki?

Also, I just realized something. When Grenade Man got lynched, it appears that the mafia didn't get his powers or else it would've said something like "You got Flash Bomb or whatever". Therefore, only their nightkills allows them to gain our powers.


As for my suspect list (no particular order):

Wiki
Chaco
Macman

Not sure if I want to toss in Rockin under my list or not, I have some suspicions of him but I'm more suspicious of the other three more than I do Rockin.

And can we do something with EE like replace or modkill him (hopefully the former)?

 

[Chaco]

It was about Wiki.

 

[Handorin]

Also, I just realized something. When Grenade Man got lynched, it appears that the mafia didn't get his powers or else it would've said something like "You got Flash Bomb or whatever". Therefore, only their nightkills allows them to gain our powers.

Neither did the other days. It specifically said in the OP that he gained powers when he killed someone, aka at night.

 

[Evil Eye]

Okay.

I guess I lied when I said life stopped sucking and that I was ready for mafia again. I think I'm good now, though. Hopefully. Since I would hate to get lynched for past inactivity, I'll give you an inkling of my absence's cause: Breakup stuff.

Marshy can vouch that I went AWOL from my broomafia game at exactly the same time. This is not specific to this game... it's just me getting my *** kicked right across the board. That said, I have no intention of becoming Sharpie 2.0 (although any of my posts in this thread have been a hell of a lot better than any of his in his one mafia game here, but I digress). I'm going to do a full reread tonight and post my findings.

I still feel the same way about Chaco vs Rockin, so I'll be paying special attention to their posts as I read.


Right now, however, I have to do some homework, get dinner, and buy some of my textbooks for school. I won't set a deadline for my post. It'll be up before I go to bed.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

bored... EE you know I'm going to be up just as long as you, so I better see that post before I sleep.

 

[Rockin]

What?

I wonder if mafia has safe name claims.

I highly doubt it. Again, as the OP said, there is 8 robot townies, 3 mafia (one of the three is Mega Man), and 1 indie. I said this in page 2, but anything that isn't a master robot should be lynched.

Also, it's very possible that a doc saved. Like the possible roleblocker, do you think the doc should come out with who they saved? Giving us 2 confirmed innos. Do you guys think that mafia could have possibly no-killed yesterday?

Does EE's lurkiness bother you? What about smashman's flavor crap?

"2?" When was there another day we didn't get a kill?

EE's lurkness is mostly just pissing me off then anything. I've played a Mafia game with him, and I havn't seen him be inactive. Thankfully, he posted today on D3 (which I'll share my personal concerns with him)

Smashman hasn't been giving any flavor crap since D1. He has been sharing his concern with the issue and has been contributing. Want to hear a bit more from him.

Also, I'm not really fond of a doctor (if we even have one) telling us who he's been protecting. There's still plenty of time for that. This goes the same for the roleblocker (again, if we have one).

Not sure if I want to toss in Rockin under my list or not, I have some suspicions of him but I'm more suspicious of the other three more than I do Rockin.

May I ask why you're suspicious of me?

EE - Nice to see you post again. I really wished you've at least told us that you'd be pretty inactive for personal reasons. Anyway, I really hope I see that post from you sometime soon.

 

[Wikipedia]

You get two clears from a doc claim because the doc would be clear (assuming there are no counter claims) and the person he protected on the night of the no kill would be clear (obviously the mafia cannot target themselves so the person the mafia target had to be a non-mafia therefore whoever the doc saved is clear.

 

[Handorin]

Except that it's total WIFOM. The mafia could have NKed or they could hit a possible bullet proof or I guess if Scav designed it that way, the kill was RBed. In a closed setup like this, it is a total gamble.

On one hand, it doesn't matter entirely because tomorrow is lylo unless we NL. We might get 1-2 semiclears out of it today and tomorrow.
If we wait for them to claim, then there is a greater chance to have two semiclears.

I prefer the second choice.

 

[Handorin]

I just realized something in my post:
NK means no kill. I hate you silly people who use it as night kill.
Saying "kill" means the exact same thing and it is easier to understand.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Doubt mafia would gamble like this when they would be in potential mylo. BP is possible but mafia wouldn't know whether it was bp doc or rb. If they tried to fakeclaim doc, there is a great chance that they would get cced. That would be pretty risky for them. So I doubt they would fakeclaim. Though yes, it is possible.

I'm not really understanding the second part of your post, what were the two choices? [i'm slow]

 

[Handorin]

on One Hand, It Doesn't Matter Entirely Because Tomorrow Is Lylo Unless We Nl. We Might Get 1-2 Semiclears Out Of It Today And Tomorrow.


if We Wait For Them To Claim, Then There Is A Greater Chance To Have Two Semiclears.


I Prefer The Second Choice.

Qf e

 

[Rockin]

You get two clears from a doc claim because the doc would be clear (assuming there are no counter claims) and the person he protected on the night of the no kill would be clear (obviously the mafia cannot target themselves so the person the mafia target had to be a non-mafia therefore whoever the doc saved is clear.

But that's the thing

there was only one time where we didn't get a kill, and that was D3 (which is now).

I can't fully agree with the fact that we have a doc or something unless it happens more then once. Right now, anything could've happen and I don't want to be skeptical at all. It might be a bit too early to even consider it a doc save.

And Hando, I rather we don't no lynch at all at this point.

quick question. Macman, why would you rather roleclaim then say...a nameclaim? Even though some of you consider them the same, I always see them a bit differently.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Never said I would. Brought it up for discussion. Just like i'n not really suspicious of smashman because of his flavor crap.

Also EE, you better not have gone to sleep yet >=[.

Would mafia want to fake-claim doc? If so than why? [General Question]

 

[Handorin]

Rockin- I agree about not wanting to NL today.

Macman- Umm, I suppose they might, becuase if a doc doesn't claim, then they might get some clears. If someone CCs, then it's 50/50 shot for us to lynch one. If we lynch right (or wrong and then lynch scum next day), we have a highly likely scum accomplice, but worst case is they faked on a real clear and then we ML them too. It's all WIFOM, really.

 

[Rockin]

I just want to say that I feel we should really nameclaim here. It may help us decide on who to lynch. Not to mention using it on D4 wouldn't matter much since we might be at a lylo situation (even if we did lynch a maf/indie D3, I still think it may not benifit us much). If anything, we could roleclaim D4. If everyone is in agreement for a nameclaim, don't do it yet. I want to try something new. Nothing different from the usual way of nameclaiming, but it's just the order I'm doing. I feel this might help narrow down our suspects in a game like this.

Marshy, do you still feel the need to lynch Hando and EE (even though Hando has been posting a bit more?).

Oh, Macman

I told you marshy.

vote: hando

we have another mislynch now, lets not use it on me k?

Mind explaning this post? You seem pretty quick to defend yourself at the beginning of the game.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

i don't remember wanting to lynch ee? maybe you're getting me confused with chaco and macman dedicating a majority of their posts raging against the inactives

I told you marshy.

told me what? "LYNCH IGGY"? i'm a bit apathetic about this game now. your play here has been a perfect example of the dumb-or-scum dilemma

 

[#HBC | marshy]

and to answer your question rockin my initial reaction is to say no. i need to reread

 

[Rockin]

It was mainly this post in D2

that's seriously dumb. ee won't get anymore active with an iggy lynch. he's been replaced in another game and never followed up on the you vs. chaco thing he promised like a week ago. he's done. and hando will just continue to be worthless

i thought your and chaco's exchange was townie v townie by everyone else getting quiet during it and ee saying that it didn't feel that way was a little scummy and i can actually see a case for a scum ee

It looked like you was slightly in support for a lynch of EE (especially if there was a stronger case against EE), however you mainly wanted to get rid of Hando.