MegaMafia | Day 4 - Mafia wins!

[mentosman8]

Haha I agree, that was obvious joke. Anyway, our window for a ml ends with D2 here. We have to make a lynch today, or we limit ourselves to our first lynch being in a situation where if we're wrong we're done. Honestly right now I would still be for an Iggy or Wiki lynch, especially with the massive inactivity today making it hard. Smashman is a close third to those two. It seems like everyone has been plagued with inactivity, so I'm trying to base more off of what has been contributed than how many posts have been made right now, and that puts those three at the top of my list. With the deadline 5 days away, I would like to hear from everyone who hasn't voted(as I will assume those who have voted their top suspect) who is on their scumlist, and for those who are voting, who their other suspects are.

 

[Rockin]

Rockin I said modkill scum. Not a specific name or anything. Clearly a joke.

I clearly saw that as you pointing out that the inactives = scum and you want them modkilled, therefore I didn't see it. regardless, know that my mind mostly play serious business due to lack of understanding >_>;;

anyway Mentos, didn't you want to elaborate further on the me vs. Chaco thing?

 

[smashman90]

Smash who the hell really knows.

Caught the stomach flu during the weekend and I've been either asleep or in the bathroom for the most part during the weekend. At least I stayed at the festival long enough to collect some of the candy people were tossing out at our side during the parade.

I think I have to agree with Mentosman about us having to make a lynch today. I just can't really decide on who to vote. I don't think there is enough evidence on any body to get me to vote on them. It seemed like most of us were focused on the whole Iggy/Warlord and Macman thing or were inactive. Me, I was kinda off doing my own thing which brought me unwanted attention. And I'm still trying to figure out how I got that mystery vote near the end of D1.

On a sidenote, I don't think we have a doc considering if there was one, then wouldn't you guys think that he would have protected Omni?

And on another sidenote, why wasn't EE prodded when Iggy and Mentos did?

 

[Rockin]

And on another sidenote, why wasn't EE prodded when Iggy and Mentos did?

It's because Scav misdated in concerns to EE. I've informed Scav about this earlier today. The same with Hando, who posted on Sept 10th. btw, glad to hear you're alright.

I want to focus a lynch on something that isn't Iggy, because we'll just have information regarding to D1 (meaning old news).However, if everyone wants to vote for him, I'm down.

I'm not too sure about a Wiki lynch. He's been posting, but some people still feel none of it is really holding information.

atm, I don't know who else to lynch. Progress in this day hasn't been so great, really. Also, Macman, mind answering the question for the fifth time? >_> I don't see why you're dodging it.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

hm, why should the doc have protected omni...?

We clearly have to lynch today. anyways, im looking into iggy as well, becuz he's barely playing the game. I'm not really suspicious of smashman right now, and not even wiki surprisingly. I'd rather go for someone I'm not really hearing much from.

And we aren't getting any new information at all. This is what happens when you don't lynch d1. Can everyone just like tell us who they find scummy and who they dont.

Idea on nameclaim?

 

[Rockin]

forgot to add this

Smashman, in your last post, didn't you say you wanted to further elaborate in terms of your last post?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Why would you rather not lynch iggy?

and sigh, whats the question rockin? It's very hard to care about other people questioning me when i know im town.

eh, i'll be blunt. I'm getting scumvibes from you rockin.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

yeah no-lynch was ********. sorry for pushing that so hard

decent questions have been posed to scumdorin, scumnatius, and scumpedia (who didn't respond to mentos' accusations and mentos didn't press. boo to being non-committal). i'm pretty much waiting on that but more hando and iggy than wiki. ee has vanished. i mean that's like half the game

 

[Rockin]

Macman - I think Mentos and another feel that nameclaiming is best used on D3. I'm starting to think so too, tbh.

The reason why I rather not lynch Iggy because of how much we'll benifit now compared to before. All we're gonna get is

- no more fear of getting killed due to a failed restriction
- information regarding to D1 (which now has little use IMO)
- no more inactivity from him (since, you know, he's dead)

I feel a new face is in order, and if for some reason things don't add up for D3, then we can lynch him (followed by liars upon the following day). Right now, I want to collect fresh information instead of focusing an annoying player who is inactive and is threatening others with a restriction.

My question to you was that can you explain your restriction on D1? I don't think I remember Iggy specifically explaining what he did to you.

And please tell me, why you feel scumvibes from me?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

stop defending iggy. i did that and town's suffering for it regardless of his alignment. just wait for him to explain what caused him to change his suspects that he'd use the restriction on hando and then pass judgment. you're flailing around too hard on him right now

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Rule #1ing Handorin was also on my mind.

but um, if i posted not in all caps. I would die.

 

[Rockin]

stop defending iggy. i did that and town's suffering for it regardless of his alignment. just wait for him to explain what caused him to change his suspects that he'd use the restriction on hando and then pass judgment. you're flailing around too hard on him right now

I don't think I'm defending him, cause again, if it comes down to it, I wouldn't mind lynching him. However, I'll calm myself down in terms of Iggy >>

Rule #1ing Handorin was also on my mind.

but um, if i posted not in all caps. I would die.

Ahh, I see. I thought there was something else along the line.

Now, why do you find me scummy, Macman?

 

[Chaco]

Here's the deal. I've read into this about more and tried to figure out what Scav meant about a few things. What I believe is that all the Mafia are vanilla goons minus MegaMan. He's the one who gets the powers. Along with the mafia? I'm not sure. Well this leads me to believe that Iggy is in fact town. Because and as everyone has saw, Scav warned us about using our powers. And relying to heavily on them. Such as Iggy did when trying to turn his restriction role into a vig role. Not cool at all. With that being said, I still think we should go for Wiki. And I'm going to stand by it, unless he can put up a brick wall defense. He has contributed nothing.

Unvote; Vote: Wikipedia

 

[#HBC | Mac]

what made you think that they are all vanillas chaco?

 

[Chaco]

Because look at the introduction Scav brought in. Read over it a few times, and see what you think. I want you to read it as well. Make sure I'm not the only one pulling that from it. It's on Page 2. The original intro. Then he outlines the fact that we should be working together. We are a VERY divided town. We have a person who's trying to play vig, and what not. What we need to do is use our power roles together to cripple the scum to an extent that they are ever so easy to pick off. This will happen late in the game unfortunately and most likely tomorrow. Today we should not nameclaim, and even on D3, I do not feel it a good idea. The potential of safe claims will bone us, and our strongest townies will be picked off. I just don't like it. We need to lynch today and I feel Wiki is the play. That's just me though.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

not getting any vibe that would lead me to believe that mafias are vanilla

 

[Chaco]

Ooops I mean page 1, the OP. I had read the second part as well. Anyways, he talks on not relying on bingo night actions and what not. The goons ability is the nightkill, so that's what makes me think that. And then Mega Man would get the power. I think that he made some of the town roles counter success so that we will rely on scumhunting.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

I still don't see it.

 

[Chaco]

Then you're not reading it the way I am.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

I guess. I doubt Scav would give us that kind of info or a hint like that. If he did, that would be very valuable information. But could seemingly get broken by a nameclaim. Which is why I don't think Scav did that.

10 people left in the game hmm. Were not in that bad of a spot I don't think. Only one death each night. Lylo is at 7, possible lylo at 9 with indy/maf joint. If we used our lynch yesterday, we would have had at min, 2 mislynches [barring random kills like vig or something.]

iggy is the play guys, definitely

I really want to see what Evil Eye has to say.

 

[smashman90]

Smashman, in your last post, didn't you say you wanted to further elaborate in terms of your last post?

Yea I did, but I can't remember most of it, though. From what I remember it was that I think that Wiki is probably the only person I'd consider voting at this point in the game, and that I was gonna keep my eye on Chaco and Macman cuz their voting habits really irk me.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

really dont think wiki is the play

 

[#HBC | Mac]

.. .

 

[Rockin]

Here's the deal. I've read into this about more and tried to figure out what Scav meant about a few things. What I believe is that all the Mafia are vanilla goons minus MegaMan. He's the one who gets the powers. Along with the mafia? I'm not sure. Well this leads me to believe that Iggy is in fact town. Because and as everyone has saw, Scav warned us about using our powers. And relying to heavily on them. Such as Iggy did when trying to turn his restriction role into a vig role. Not cool at all. With that being said, I still think we should go for Wiki. And I'm going to stand by it, unless he can put up a brick wall defense. He has contributed nothing.

Unvote; Vote: Wikipedia

I think you're looking at the flavor a bit too hard, Chaco. The part about using the powers is debatable, but still. I'm wondering why you're saying we'll have vanilla goons. Scav Basically said 8 master robots (vanilla townies), 3 Mafias, and 1 indie. It's pretty clear that anything that isn't a Master Robot is going to get lynched.

Because look at the introduction Scav brought in. Read over it a few times, and see what you think. I want you to read it as well. Make sure I'm not the only one pulling that from it. It's on Page 2. The original intro. Then he outlines the fact that we should be working together. We are a VERY divided town. We have a person who's trying to play vig, and what not. What we need to do is use our power roles together to cripple the scum to an extent that they are ever so easy to pick off. This will happen late in the game unfortunately and most likely tomorrow. Today we should not nameclaim, and even on D3, I do not feel it a good idea. The potential of safe claims will bone us, and our strongest townies will be picked off. I just don't like it. We need to lynch today and I feel Wiki is the play. That's just me though.

Dude, this is a Mafia game. we're ALWAYS going to be divided (except Mafia). This game is no different from what we have to do. The only difference in this game is that there is no room for errors. I really don't think there are any safe claims. We know one of theme is Mega Man. For all we know, Smashman could be right and that Duo and Protoman could be the other Mafs. I'm not sure, but I am confident of is that there's no safe claims.

 

[Chaco]

Why are you confident?

 

[Rockin]

Why are you confident?

Because of the theme and situation we play. If it was to say...Mega Man was vanilla townie and all his possible friends and assistants were townies, then I'd understand the mafia having a safe claim of sorts. It would be easy to claim robots that Mega Man rides on to reach one side to another. Or mafia claiming protoman since he DOES somewhat does his own thing. There are other possibilities to go on with this, but I think you see my point.

Right now, the image is simple: we are master robots trying to take down Mega Man and people on his side. Anything that isn't one of us should be shot down.

 

[Chaco]

Finally back to a computer.

I guess that makes sense, however I am skeptical still.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Can we just bandwagon iggy... like now. If he's not gonna acknowledge direct questions and the votes on him now doesnt make him do so. Might as well be serious and go for the lynch. Unless he decides to respond of course.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

iggy'll be lynched at deadline at this rate but stressing that people get some votes down considering deadline is in mere days and it'll just make for more to analyze later

 

[#HBC | Mac]

heh, all active people are like immune from todays and tomorrows lynch.

 

[Ignatius]

iggy what did you find rereading the topic that made you use the restriction this way?

Mostly the general play of lurking throughout the day, which is something that I frequently do as scum, combined with this post after all of the days data came through:

You will never find 100% of the information or connections immediately. It is an on going game. Stuff comes up.

We aren't the only ones who have been saying there is information to be found.

No, I feel he is most likely independent. Active does not mean you are town.

You said your top 3 scumdats are myself, EE, and a soft target for Marshy. Hando wasn't in the list, but you decided to target him in priority over the three of us. Does this mean we're less scummy to you now? I'm just curious why you chose hando over us.
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The reason I originally removed EE from my scum list is a bit metagamey. I've been in quite a few games with EE, and I believe that he would have changed his vote by the end of the day. However, in a BRoom mafia game, he also johned about being too busy to play, and I figured that carried over to this game as well.

It did come down to a choice between you and Hando though, for me, but with how lurky Handorin was, I figured town would at least be getting to see you post more often.

Although, if I could have, I think I would have put it on Macman, who I thought was towns least valuable player D1 tied with wiki; except Macman was super tunnel visioned all day.

heh, all active people are like immune from todays and tomorrows lynch.

Town can be inactive as well, were it a double mislynch on town that's an instant game lost.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

What about Hando's post made you think he was scummy?

 

[Noriko Harada]

It did come down to a choice between you and Hando though, for me, but with how lurky Handorin was, I figured town would at least be getting to see you post more often.

You chose him over me because I was less lurky? Can you elaborate further on this? I just don't understand this well at all.

 

[Rockin]

Ooops! Sorry! I forgot I was using that account. Did the same thing Mentos man did XD

 

[Chaco]

Lol Rockin. Noriko needs a c in it and you can play word jumble.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

rockin and chaco, please feel free[obligated] to vote iggy

 

[Rockin]

rockin and chaco, please feel free[obligated] to vote iggy

No need. We got two days till the deadline comes up. Whether we vote him or not, Iggy has the highest votes and thus will be lynched regardless. Besides, not only am I still waiting on Iggy to respond, but I like my vote place just fine.

 

[Chaco]

I see no other info circulating than this, so hell with it

Unvote;Vote: Iggy

 

[#HBC | marshy]

No need. We got two days till the deadline comes up. Whether we vote him or not, Iggy has the highest votes and thus will be lynched regardless. Besides, not only am I still waiting on Iggy to respond, but I like my vote place just fine.

no. there's more to analyze be people placing votes on who they think are most suspicious

 

[Rockin]

no. there's more to analyze be people placing votes on who they think are most suspicious

I suppose, but even if I did vote, it still won't be enough to lynch him. However, fine

Vote: Iggy