MegaMafia | Day 4 - Mafia wins!

[Chaco]

Your play style seems off to me. I'll go into detail later. Re-read first.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

was thinking, and I realized chaco is right. I haven't really been giving much effort to this game. i'll change that now, expect better quality posts in the near future.

 

[Wikipedia]

The way you're using it is what's bothering me. When you use 'is' with a noun like cat, town, baby, and so on, you're basically confirming it. The fact that you did it not once, but twice bugs me. Oh, and FYI: I didn't start this arguement. I merely stated what you were doing that I didn't like.

Reason why I'm not concern over it is because it's already done. There's no way to undo it. The fact that Hando is calm about the situation also ensures me not to worry. He's a good DG player. I'm sure, like he says, knows how to handle such situation.

Also, let's not forget. We were pretty pressured the moment EE told us what Mafia could do with the said powers from Omni. Even if it meant sacrificing one of their people, this still puts us in a bad spot. Yeah, Iggy's power didn't help things lighten up, but neither is us dwelling so deep into it.

Does everyone feel a Namelclaim is good for either today or Day 3? Please don't randomly nameclaim. Just say yes or no.

You're verb usage argument does not make any sense. How else am I able to express a qualified sentence? Just because I use 'is' does not make it is an absolute sentence. Take this sentence for example: "If the presidential nominee is elected then he/she will become president elect." You can clearly see in this sentence that the presidential nominee =/= president elect but it is a qualified statement. IF the presidential nominee is elected THEN he/she will become president elect. And yet I clearly used the verb 'is'.

IF Hando is town and and then dies THEN the town will be in a lylo situation.

No where in there am I confirming or stating that Hando is town. Not suspicious at all. Unless you would rather us not think about whether a day could possibly be mylo and lylo and we could just go blindly lynching people and then lose without even realizing it. But that doesn't sound much like a plan a villager would want to follow. Unless that's what you're getting at.

Does that make sense now?

Also, name claim might be a pretty good idea maybe tomorrow. I'm generally used to name claims when there are far fewer players since who knows what the mafia can do with the information even if we do end up lynching a maf that day.

 

[Rockin]

You're verb usage argument does not make any sense. How else am I able to express a qualified sentence? Just because I use 'is' does not make it is an absolute sentence. Take this sentence for example: "If the presidential nominee is elected then he/she will become president elect." You can clearly see in this sentence that the presidential nominee =/= president elect but it is a qualified statement. IF the presidential nominee is elected THEN he/she will become president elect. And yet I clearly used the verb 'is'.

IF Hando is town and and then dies THEN the town will be in a lylo situation.

No where in there am I confirming or stating that Hando is town. Not suspicious at all. Unless you would rather us not think about whether a day could possibly be mylo and lylo and we could just go blindly lynching people and then lose without even realizing it. But that doesn't sound much like a plan a villager would want to follow. Unless that's what you're getting at.

Does that make sense now?

Also, name claim might be a pretty good idea maybe tomorrow. I'm generally used to name claims when there are far fewer players since who knows what the mafia can do with the information even if we do end up lynching a maf that day.

Looking back on it, I saw that you actually did say a if there. So this whole arguement was a waste upon both of our time LOL sorry. Thing was I thought I saw there was no 'if' and that you was basically 'confirming' Hando is town. Again my mistake.

Man I seriously need to read better -_____-;;;

Also, I don't think we should just blindly lynch. Granted, we should keep in mind that we're either in a mylo or lylo situation. However, let's not focus too heavily on said situations. Like Hando's for example.

 

[Chaco]

I want to hear from Marshy.

Expect a post later.

 

[Wikipedia]

Looking back on it, I saw that you actually did say a if there. So this whole arguement was a waste upon both of our time LOL sorry. Thing was I thought I saw there was no 'if' and that you was basically 'confirming' Hando is town. Again my mistake.

Man I seriously need to read better -_____-;;;

Also, I don't think we should just blindly lynch. Granted, we should keep in mind that we're either in a mylo or lylo situation. However, let's not focus too heavily on said situations. Like Hando's for example.

LMAO that's what i've been saying this whole time. I told you this argument was stupid haha.

 

[Wikipedia]

...not a lot of talking today.

 

[Chaco]

Wel, Rockin after re-reading and metaing off of Simpsons, I'm kinda stuck at indecision. I heard you say you never take D1 seriously and just make fluffy type posts which can moderately be seen in this game. I'm still speculative on you.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

iggy what did you find rereading the topic that made you use the restriction this way?

 

[Rockin]

Wel, Rockin after re-reading and metaing off of Simpsons, I'm kinda stuck at indecision. I heard you say you never take D1 seriously and just make fluffy type posts which can moderately be seen in this game. I'm still speculative on you.

I take D1 seriously, but not the RVJs that comes with it (even though it's counted as a whole day). In terms of days, I always do my best at what I've seen, find, and scumhunt. What I do in this game is no different. The only time I was ****ty in D1 was Spidey Mafia, where I was barely contributing, and I was a town member. I don't think any of my posts in this game have been 'fluff.' Just filled with information as well as opinons upon said topic/discussions.

 

[Chaco]

Activity is going down in this, and I've seen Smash lurking still. I don't like it at all. I know he's looked.

Unvote; Vote: Smash

 

[Chaco]

Oh, and Prods all around please.

 

[smashman90]

Chaco, I don't really have much to say lately besides my posts to EE. I've just been checking in to see if there have been any new posts but there haven't been much today or yesterday. But I'm just assuming that you're doing this just to spark up some activity and because you have some suspicions about me.

 

[Chaco]

Indeed, and I find your response to my post so quickly heavily ironic.

 

[Rockin]

****. I got a bit distracted. I'll try to lessen myself from that

anyway, I'm gonna try and make a big post. However, there's some things I want answered.

Macman - You have yet to really answer any of my questions. What was specifically your restriction besides making everything capital? What's your reasoning to voting wiki besides 'feeling he's the scummiest player?' Please answer both in detail.

Iggy - I'm still waiting for your reason why you chose Hando even though Me, EE, and Marshy were on your scumdar? I know you said Hando wasn't posting much, but I know there has to be a better reason then that.

 

[Rockin]

While I still wait for my questions to be answered, I want to talk about someone here on the thread. Someone I've been looking at from post to post for quite awhile. That someone is Chaco

He's been making a lot of post that seemed to be either didn't make sense or so quick to voting.

This game definitely rocketed off, and then sputtered into inactivity. We know Xsyven has a good reason, but I'm really wondering where some of the people went. I know Smash will say, "Oh we have a life, believe it or not" but how simple is it to come on and say "I'm really busy don't expect a post from me until: [insert date]"

With that being said now.

@Macman: Can you tell me why you are so sure the restriction was given to you by mafia? Also, do you have any other justifications behind your vote on Xsyven? When you came into the thread, you basically said "Xsyven is scum Vote: Xsy". Not until later on, did we start to talk about Xsy as a whole. So, if you will, please just clarify on your vote.

@Rockin: My top suspects are:

Evil Eye: He came in very strong, and I noticed quite a bit of mannerisms from KiKi. With that being said, I've never played with EE before. I will not gauge his ability now, to the BRoom games that were moved into dGames. However, I definitely am kinda feeling some "Too Townie".

Warlord: Well he just ****ed up. I really still do not understand his motives. I could definitely see him as an indy.

Smash: He has posted like nothing. Smash has had 6 times this entire game. All of which have pretty much been crap. Personally, I do not see why he joined this game after opting out of TNM like a day before.

Upon this, I ask everyone to make a small list of their top three suspects. Chaco makes sure to put some weight on the table for each one. Remember what he says for each one as well as who the target is from here on out.

A replacement does not have a clean slate.

This is probably the only thing I have agreed with Chaco upon D1. Unfortunatly, he doesn't follow true to his word.

Remember guys, all Master Robots have powers. As Scav said we shouldn't rely on these powers alone. I belive this sticks with the claims as well. I think he's town. But as far as EE, Ill have a post up about him tomorrow.

Odd. He seemed to have forgotten about the clean slate thing he mentioned before and is now seeing Iggy as a likely townie. Then he goes and mentions that he'll have a post about the case of EE

Alright, take your time Smash. Thanks for telling us.

I believe Iggy's claim because Grenade Man's ability is concussion grenade. Which yeah, speaks for itself. Post restrictions, and junk like that would fit perfectly. But still, I'd like a post from Xsy,(Marshy). Or whoever the hell's replacing.

In here, he tells his reason for being town and not considering the fact that Master Warlord did some scummy play. Nor is really putting his words of why MW/Iggy was scummy in the first place. Again odd.

I'm gonna pop my input into here. I do think that your abilities our a hindrance to us. However, you said you got voteblocked? I think that's not one that should be tossed around either. If possible, refrain from using it unless your for certain on who you wanna voteblock. (Don't respond) Anyways, at this moment, I don't wanna lynch you unless necessary. I'd honestly feel comfortable with an EE lynch, he just doesn't sit right with me. I'll go PbPA him in a while.

(I wish we had a post iso feature...)

He then states here that he wouldn't lynch Iggy unless necessary, basically saying he's going to 'follow with the crowd.' Then he says he's alright with a EE lynch, shifting to a new target. If Iggy's town, then why are you going to lynch him even if you feel he's town? Scummy IMO.

Chaco then makes the post in the case of EE. Honestly, that wasn't really easy to read at all =/

I don't see how you're relating this, and I don't feel you share the same role PM as us.

Vote: Smashman

Several post down, Chaco suddenly votes for Smashman even after voting EE upon that case of his. Honestly, this wasn't neccessary, especially if you was waiting for EE to respond back. A FoS would've worked better.

EE then makes a huge and legit case towards Chaco's case on EE

I didn't bend your words at all. And I must've not hit your big post. My bad. Anyways, I get what ya mean. That clears you for me, for now.

Anyways, I have a stomach virus so I might not be able to post much today.

"K, sorry, won't try to lynch you ever again! ^^;;" That's what I kinda read from this response.

So at this point, you notice he knocked off Iggy and EE from his suspicious bar pretty easy, which just leaves Smashman on his list.

Take a look at the the posts between Omni and Chaco

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@Chaco: I don't think Iggy's claim ruins anything. Iggy's claim is Iggy's claim. It was a helleva good one which I've already stated. However, you can't ignore Warlord's behavior and you can't ignore Iggy's ability to cover for Warlord's mishaps. Iggy and Warlord are now two sides of a coin and you need to take into consideration both sides before you start "clearing" people.

@Omni: How so? The claim fits perfectly. It makes perfect sense. Concussion Grenade fits that to a button. I honestly think Iggy is town. And Omni, Iggy has the right to explain Warlord's mishaps because they are a single entity in this game. You cannot keep seperating them by that. They are the same person. So what are you saying with this coin reference? Two sides of the same person? Different playstyles accomodates that.

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Chaco basically contradicted that 'a replacement has no clean slate' deal. And again stresses that Iggy is town. This again, I didn't like.

Take a look at another convo between Chaco and Marshy. Each one is a post minute appart from the other.
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right now i'm thinking hando, omni, or wiki. maybe rockin. really i'm good with anyone who's not in the alliance i'm trying to build

So who'd be your top out of those?

eh. wik i

I could go for Wiki. Just because I feel all of his posts have had no content.

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WTF? Why should you care who his no. 1 choice of a lynch is? It just seemed like Chaco was looking for another thing to bandwagon on, disregarding or putting more pressure for a Iggy, EE, or a Smashman lynch. If at least not the first two, then the last one, as Chaco has yet to really pressure Smashman.

Well, here's what I agree on. We need to get things going one time or another. His power hurts the town, and well if it will give us insight, then I'll be for it.

However, I'd be down for a Wiki lynch. He's lurking hard. Everytime I see him in dGames I check what he's doing. Just because he doesn't post a lot. More than half of the time it's replying, but never actually submitting.

If Wiki was lurking hard, then why didn't you mention him in your list? Or at least brought it to notice at a earlier time? I just feel that Chaco is really trying to blend with the crowd. >>

Well, here's my take on that. We now that Iggy is probably not scum. Well, we don't know that about Wiki. He's lurking hardcore, and it's a good possiblity he's scum.

Again pointing the obvious about Wiki lurking and is using that to think that he's scum. >_>

Well, with Wiki, I feel he is lurking and know it. I watch over dGames every now and then just to see who's looking at it. I see him looking at this thread, and at dGames a few times per day. He just doesn't post. I feel that with a Wiki lynch we don't gain as much as we would from an Iggy lynch, but the prospect that Wiki has been actively lurking worries me. Iggy has posted content, Wiki has not. I do not want to push policy, since to me it is kinda scummy, but Lurkers Get Lynched was coined for a reason. Think of HP mafia where Marshy coasted to victory.

Now he's using the quality logic to tell which one is more scummy, which is just really bad for town to look at so heavily. Just because Iggy post more then Wiki doesn't mean he's town nor does it mean Wiki is truly Mafia. A Mafia can post almost everyday where as a Town could barely post at all...whether it can or can't be helped. Hell, I know at least Frozenflame makes big post and he post like little bit at a time.

I agree. To me, this doesn't seem normal for you at all Marshy. You hardly ever second guess yourself, so what's up?

He then makes a BS statement. Marshy is human, like us. We ALL second guess ourselves. The best of people do it. We all do it. Hell, I'm sure even Tom does it.

He is actively lurking. Agree or disagree? He has posted no content? Agree or disagree?

Your FoS on me was for pointing out Wiki was actively lurking? Yes or no?

"Ugh" is pissed of Marshy, huh? Are you tired of our crap town? Well saying so and the actions you are exhibiting is not at all helping this "crap" town. I don't know why you suddenly turned over a new leaf on us, but I'm not only seeing it here. I'm seeing it within Vengeful as well. Yes, I am metaing you. And honestly, you've contributed very little as well. I would not be joking within, I dunno, a few days in front of the deadline. Which is exactly what you did. Why did you continually push the idea of an alliance? Was it meant to be a flummox? Why are you vexing Omni now? You do make a valid point though, this is not AIM Mafia. With that being said, you and Omni need to put your little ***** fit aside, and get with it.

I dunno. seems Chaco got a bit sensitive here. He notes on Marshy's play as well as questions him and whatnot. I feel it was kinda pointless really >>

I just wanted to hear it from you. Now onto Wiki, my case on him is not that of just his lurking. It is because he has posted absolutely no content and that he has been actively lurking. Also, he has not once defended posting no content. Or has made an attempt to post content that I have seen.

Now comes this question: What do you feel we should do in the current situation? We have no time to come up with another lynch candidate in the time provided, so it's either; No Lynch, Lynch Iggy, or Lynch Wiki.

And as far as Omni goes, I agree the case is terrible.

He then makes another known case about Wiki appear, which is actually true. Still feels that he's trying hard for others to wagon with him.

The guy then listed three options. One of them including lynching Iggy....the guy Chaco believes he's town. contradict much?

I didn't say Indy Smash, I've said Iggy is town.

God, sometimes Chaco...

Well, I still think that Wiki has a lot freaking higher chance of scum, and were merely playing into the scum by lynching a most likely townie.

Wiki hasn't posted for ****. And we're lynching an active player who most everyone has confirmed as town/indy. **** doesn't make sense.

STIIIIIILL pressing the Wiki lynch as well as being sympathetic over Iggy...saying we're lynching an active member over a lurker. Now's he's using activity logic. This is also the first time I see Chaco list Iggy as 'town/indy.' Just seems like he's really undecided on who to lynch.

I didn't mention that at all, but thanks for giving me more than I needed.

The lynch on Iggy is stupid. Honestly, I find you a lot better lynch candidate than Iggy.

Now this time, he targets me because I picked him as a possible lynch target. OMGUS? I think so. Either that or he really doesn't want to be in the spotlight. Also note that he finds me as a better lynch candidate then 'IGGY.' Not Wiki >_>

God****, now Omni's switching out.

Also guys, if you decide to some to your senses before the deadline, Wiki will gladly accept your votes. Considering before the **** dorm excuse he still didn't post ****, and your giving him a free ride into ****ing D2. Iggy is at least active, and you guys are tunneling the living hell out of him. God, this really just makes me sore over it. You even admit he probably will be town. And yet you still push for his lynch. So what if he gives you a post restriction at least we're not wasting a lynch on a townie.

Aside Chaco being pissy, he pretty much is still interested for a Wiki lynch. It made me wonder how long he was going to do this.

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if anyone's up for a last minute smashman wagon i'll gladly hop on

til then unvote wiki vote no lynch

I'll wagon him in all honesty. We can majority him. I don't like all of his flavor fishing,

Unvote; Vote:Smash

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NOW he's going back to smashman! And his bits of reason was for flavoring. Oh well. Least he's under chaco's suspect list.

Eh, much good that has done. My first choice was wiki but you were right close. Lynching you is impossible now, and no lynch is impossible as well unless people on iggy start unvoting. So Ill just leave it on you for now.

theeeeeeeeeeeeen he clearly speaks out that he was wagoning people, which is pretty dangerous. Also, your first choice of target was actually Evil Eye. Wiki was like your.....4th choice

Vote:Macman

You essentially claimed VI just now as an excuse to vote Wiki. Your ploy on D1 saying that you were sure it was mafia was a huge red herring. You did not want to no lynch at first and I could tell that. So your probably the scummiest at this time.

Chaco picks Macman cause of...him claiming village idiot. Seriously, that has to be the worst case for a vote >>

This, Mac. Village Idiot is not a role or anything, it's basically a term to describe someones play. Saying/Doing the wrong things, and not caring, essentially. Townie VIs can be used as scapegoats, and the fact that you pointed it out makes me uneasy towards you. Often VIs are scum, who just don't know what to say. Which is easily related to you since you said you do not play scum well at all.

I don't like this defitnition of VI at all. However, I'm just assuming that you got the idea wrong, so I quickly corrected you. However, I'll say it again. Village idiot is just someone who is an idiot of that said group or town. Someone with no mind whatsoever. A *******, basically.

Don't need to say anything.

Now I find this very scummy. Macman ask for a reason and Chaco didn't want to tell. You should give someone the reason why you're voting for them. How else are they going to defend themselves? Even a basic town knows this.

I'm definitely getting Rockin as scum.

NOW you target me again, which I remind you

Your play style seems off to me. I'll go into detail later. Re-read first.

Basically, it just seemed like you was going to go and pull out a reason out of your *** for accusing me, especially when you wanted me lynched at the near end of D1

I want to hear from Marshy.

Expect a post later.

Unfortunatly, it wasn't the post about me. Instead, he wants to hear from Marshy for some strange reason, even though Marshy posted two days ago (three now, due to time LOL)

Wel, Rockin after re-reading and metaing off of Simpsons, I'm kinda stuck at indecision. I heard you say you never take D1 seriously and just make fluffy type posts which can moderately be seen in this game. I'm still speculative on you.

'****! I can't find anything to throw at him!'

So yeah, as you can see, Chaco has done nothing but gone with the crowd and as parroted most of the reasons for said lynch choice, as well as bandwagoning, and even making post that seemed to went against what he says and 'believes' in. For all we know, this could be our Indie

Vote: Chaco

 

[Chaco]

Wow, uhh, Rockin. What crowd are you talking about? The crowd was ****ing on Iggy, where your *** sat the entire **** time. This entire post, is pretty much ****.

Okay, and for the I dunno, thousandth time you've probably hear me say this. There. Is. Absolutely. Nothing. Wrong. With. Wagoning. For. Pressure. I ****ing hate when you try to undermine that on a player cause it is scummy as ****. And this isn't the only time you've done it. You get so butt sore when I mention Wiki. Why wouldn't we have lynched Wiki? He was the perfect candidate and your ****ing flavor ***** fits got in the way of that.

And as far as the options Rockin, that was the towns options not mine. Stop trying to twist words to make a case cause your doing a bad job of it.

Rockin, before you make a ****ty case again, I urge you to actually ****ing think. Half of the things you've presented have been answered within the last little bit.

Also, I won't lie. I'd ****ing lynch Wiki right now, and you with him. Also, i love how you wait until I mention you to bring up this supposed case that you've been doing all game. Any other time I might;ve cared more, but you've proven within that post that you're just trying to hard.

 

[Wikipedia]

vote: chaco

I don't want to have to read another post like that for the rest of this game. Absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Chaco]

Instead of just voting how about some reasoning. An abrasive post is no means for a vote, and you just more so solidified yourself with Rockin.

 

[Wikipedia]

Chaco it doesn't mean anything, I'm vote blocked.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

I actually agree with alot of rockins case. Chaco has been hopping on bandwagons and other peoples's suspicions alot in this game... But I don't think it's suspicious, [lol where have we heard this before]. Chaco your abrasive nature is getting annoying though.

I'm looking into Rockin right now.

 

[Rockin]

Wow, uhh, Rockin. What crowd are you talking about? The crowd was ****ing on Iggy, where your *** sat the entire **** time. This entire post, is pretty much ****.

I was going for a Iggy lynch and just that Iggy lynch. Granted, I wouldn't mind going for a Wiki or smashman lynch if need be, but I was really wanting a iggy lynch cause it held the most information town needed.

Okay, and for the I dunno, thousandth time you've probably hear me say this. There. Is. Absolutely. Nothing. Wrong. With. Wagoning. For. Pressure. I ****ing hate when you try to undermine that on a player cause it is scummy as ****. And this isn't the only time you've done it. You get so butt sore when I mention Wiki. Why wouldn't we have lynched Wiki? He was the perfect candidate and your ****ing flavor ***** fits got in the way of that.

There IS and CAN be wrong with wagoning sometimes. Yes, it's good for pressure, but you was using it in a way that looked pretty **** scummy IMO. You didn't really kept true to your words at all and you just seemed to be following with the crowd, really. Also, I don't think I was having a 'flavor ***** fit.' If anything, the only one who was truly mad about the flavor deal was Marshy. If I was having a issue with flavor, I'm sure it had to do to how smashman was using it.

And as far as the options Rockin, that was the towns options not mine. Stop trying to twist words to make a case cause your doing a bad job of it.

Not twisting them. You said these things yourself. And if you feel I'm twisting them, I suggest you prove it instead of complaining.

Rockin, before you make a ****ty case again, I urge you to actually ****ing think. Half of the things you've presented have been answered within the last little bit.

If you're calling it ****ty, why you're getting so mad and defensive over it? This is the first time I see you getting mad at such a level, really. I don't think this case is crap at all. How you're responding to it really shows your colors >>

Also, I won't lie. I'd ****ing lynch Wiki right now, and you with him. Also, i love how you wait until I mention you to bring up this supposed case that you've been doing all game. Any other time I might;ve cared more, but you've proven within that post that you're just trying to hard.

And on what grounds would you lynch me for? Bad play? Pressuring you? I'd like to hear it now, since you want to lynch me so bad. And why you want to lynch Wiki? He's posting more, so he isn't really lurking anymore.

Honestly, I was hoping you'd defend your case, but now all I've mostly see is you insult on it. This kinda solifies my vote for the day.

vote: chaco

I don't want to have to read another post like that for the rest of this game. Absolutely ridiculous.

err...why you voting? I thought you was voteblocked o.o

I actually agree with alot of rockins case. Chaco has been hopping on bandwagons and other peoples's suspicions alot in this game... But I don't think it's suspicious, [lol where have we heard this before]. Chaco your abrasive nature is getting annoying though.

I'm looking into Rockin right now.

Why you're looking onto me, Macman? I'm just curious.

 

[Chaco]

I'm just pissy because of all the crap. We've done nothing this day whatsoever, your case leads us in a completely wrong path, people are lurking like crazy, and I'm not gonna be here all week. Not because of the case. I'm trying not to be replaced and I'm busy as ****.

Wiki, why are you voting if you are voteblocked? Your either bull****ting it, or hell I dunno.

And Mac, I've jumped onto bandwagons, yeah. I admit it. I do it for pressure. If scum hammer, who gives a ****, it just ousts them and make our job easier. I do know when and when not to bandwagon.

Rockin, personally I don't care if I lynch you or not. But if you're standing in the way of a Wiki lynch then move. That;s why annoys me. Your defending him quite a bit, and still he's not posting that much. Most of his posts have been brief one liners.

I'm not insulting. I just use when language when I'm annoyed at the situation. Because after tonight you won't hear from me until Saturday most likely, if that.

 

[Rockin]

I'm just pissy because of all the crap. We've done nothing this day whatsoever, your case leads us in a completely wrong path, people are lurking like crazy, and I'm not gonna be here all week. Not because of the case. I'm trying not to be replaced and I'm busy as ****.

I understand, and I would like to see those people posting a bit more. Hando, Iggy (to some degree), and Evil Eye have slighty fell off the active track.

And Mac, I've jumped onto bandwagons, yeah. I admit it. I do it for pressure. If scum hammer, who gives a ****, it just ousts them and make our job easier. I do know when and when not to bandwagon.

Things like this I find most troublesome, especially if you contradict yourself. You accused Macman of being a VI who seemed to 'didn't care.' "Saying/Doing the wrong things, and not caring, essentially." This is you being your own version of VI! Even then, listen to yourself. We're in a tightly knit game where ****ups are NOT an option.

Rockin, personally I don't care if I lynch you or not. But if you're standing in the way of a Wiki lynch then move. That;s why annoys me. Your defending him quite a bit, and still he's not posting that much. Most of his posts have been brief one liners.

I'm not standing in your way of a wiki lynch. If you're gonna try and lynch wiki, then be my guest. However, I suggest you find more legit reasoning for a wiki lynch then by him 'lurking,' cause again, wiki is posting.

 

[Evil Eye]

I've actively been reading. I actually stepped back because I didn't want to interrupt this trifecta of Rockin, Wiki, and Chaco taking turns sinking their teeth into each other. It's been... interesting, to say the least.

I'm not sure how much of my hand I want to tip right now, but I will say that I don't think these arguments come across quite like TvT.

*continues to spectate*

 

[Wikipedia]

Man I seriously need to read better -_____-;;;

later...

vote: chaco

I don't want to have to read another post like that for the rest of this game. Absolutely ridiculous.

err...why you voting? I thought you was voteblocked o.o

earlier...

Chaco it doesn't mean anything, I'm vote blocked.

>_>

 

[Rockin]

>_>

Actually, I did read that part of what you said. However, I thought when you're vote blocked, you're not allowed to make a bold vote and such. That's why I found it weird.

 

[Chaco]

I've actively been reading. I actually stepped back because I didn't want to interrupt this trifecta of Rockin, Wiki, and Chaco taking turns sinking their teeth into each other. It's been... interesting, to say the least.

I'm not sure how much of my hand I want to tip right now, but I will say that I don't think these arguments come across quite like TvT.

*continues to spectate*

How so EE? Withholding information does not help town.

 

[Evil Eye]

I'm not withholding information. I'm just not elaborating on my observations yet because I want to see where this argument goes, without an outsider's opinion tainting the debate.

 

[Rockin]

Chaco, you still gonna try and defend yourself or what? I still got my vote on you and all >>

Also Macman, why are you avoiding my question?

 

[mentosman8]

Just like to say I'm catching up on the thread a bit here, been lots goin on the past couple days

 

[Chaco]

Chaco, you still gonna try and defend yourself or what? I still got my vote on you and all >>

Also Macman, why are you avoiding my question?

Defend myself from what?

 

[Rockin]

Defend myself from what?

erm....the post that I've shown to you as well as your case?

seriously, I can't even believe you're town at this case from your lack of fighting back =/

 

[Handorin]

All you guys calling me out for inactivity need to read better. I stated that I was going to a smash tournament this weekend and would not be back until tonight. I am still pretty tired and do not think I will make much of an effort to make a post (Haha, kind of a contridiction there). This kind of stuck out to me though:

If scum hammer, who gives a ****, it just ousts them and make our job easier.

Scum are not the only people who hammer. Especially if the person being lynched is scum. You can never automatically assume that or give it significantly more weight than other vote placement times. This is not a good idea.

 

[Chaco]

Rockin, If I was worried with being lynched Id fight back. I'm not. I don't feel the need, at this point and will not feel the pressure because I am not scum.

And Hando, I meant a quick lynch. What you said makes sense but not near the scenario I meant.

 

[Rockin]

Rockin, If I was worried with being lynched Id fight back. I'm not. I don't feel the need, at this point and will not feel the pressure because I am not scum.

And Hando, I meant a quick lynch. What you said makes sense but not near the scenario I meant.

Seriously, stuff like this really makes you scummy. I really can't believe you're town at all

Your constant flip of votes as well as your wagoning really irritates me. You pointed me out for twisting your words, yet you havn't really proven that at all. The fact that I'm pointing all these negative things at you and you're not fighting back really doesn't help either. After all of that, I really can't tell if you're a scum giving up or a townie not trying hard to prove his case. Especially since this'll be the last day we'll hear from you till possibly this saturday when you're done with the things that's needed to be done. I'm going with the first case.

 

[Chaco]

All then your wrong. And you said yourself, we can't afford to make a mistake and your doing just that. You blamed me for wagoning, yeah I admitted it and meant to do it. Part of my style. Everything else you pointed out really hold no weight or has already been answered to. I don't know what you want me to answer to because there's none to. So, your case just doesn't phase me.

You said Im going against the clean slate thing? Uhh not at all. Iggy defended himself. Your trying to make a case out of nothing. You sid I didn't say anything of MW look back further. I made like 3 posts specifically on him and was the first to vote him. Again your case is wrong. Then you say Marshy and I are pretty much buddying. Uhh your forgetting Im one of the most active people on this site. I reply fast. Marshy was apparently just looking. Ask him cause I dunno. Then with EE, he defended himself why would I pursue someone further who cleared themself with their defense of my current suspiciouns. Twisting what I said to fit your case. Then about Iggy further, his claim was sound. That was my belief, why would I lynch someone who I think is clear? Because of the possible information. See now how we're working with nothing? We shouldve lynched Wiki.

There, I answered to your "case". Oh and, fore warning: I swing my vote for pressure, wagons, and just to get rises out of people. I'd appreciate it if you would stop undermining my methods, thank you.

 

[Rockin]

All then your wrong. And you said yourself, we can't afford to make a mistake and your doing just that. You blamed me for wagoning, yeah I admitted it and meant to do it. Part of my style. Everything else you pointed out really hold no weight or has already been answered to. I don't know what you want me to answer to because there's none to. So, your case just doesn't phase me.

I thought your style was that you was defensive. At least, that's what you said in Totally Normal Mafia and you wasn't really bulldozering over one wagon to another. I want you to answer things I'm pointing out against you, which you seem to have in the next paragraph.

You said Im going against the clean slate thing? Uhh not at all. Iggy defended himself. Your trying to make a case out of nothing. You sid I didn't say anything of MW look back further. I made like 3 posts specifically on him and was the first to vote him. Again your case is wrong.

You took in Iggy's words over what MW have done, especially since in your suspect list about MW that you found him pretty scummy. I probably wouldn't have looked at this so hard if you havn't considered Iggy a lynch even though you feel Iggy is town. Iggy may have defended himself by word, but that doesn't auto make him town at all.

Then you say Marshy and I are pretty much buddying. Uhh your forgetting Im one of the most active people on this site. I reply fast. Marshy was apparently just looking. Ask him cause I dunno.

'Dunno,' Huh?

Also, I never said I thought you were buddying, nor was I was making a huge note about how active you two were. Dunno why you're trying to twist up my words. Here is the post I made about the issue

WTF? Why should you care who his no. 1 choice of a lynch is? It just seemed like Chaco was looking for another thing to bandwagon on, disregarding or putting more pressure for a Iggy, EE, or a Smashman lynch. If at least not the first two, then the last one, as Chaco has yet to really pressure Smashman.

The main point was what you was asking himfor his no.1 suspect, which I find scummy. Again, why ask for the top pick? It's just showing me that you're being tunnel minded and that was the only time you ever was interested in a wiki lynch.

Then with EE, he defended himself why would I pursue someone further who cleared themself with their defense of my current suspiciouns. Twisting what I said to fit your case. Then about Iggy further, his claim was sound. That was my belief, why would I lynch someone who I think is clear? Because of the possible information. See now how we're working with nothing? We shouldve lynched Wiki.

I actually had no problem with the issue in terms of EE. Again, my only gripe was the issue with Iggy and how you went after mainly Wiki and only gave some effort to Smashman. I just mainly didn't like that play because you was just blending with the crowd and not speaking of your own beliefs.

Oh and, fore warning: I swing my vote for pressure, wagons, and just to get rises out of people. I'd appreciate it if you would stop undermining my methods, thank you.

I'll undermine it if I find it scummy. >>

 

[Chaco]

Okay, Im abou tto leave again, but a quick hit. I didn't mean to twist your words up it's just what I got from them. What you were incenuating.

 

[Rockin]

With Chaco not able to reply till saturday (due to him doing something IRL), I'm curious as to how others feel about this.