EBWOP: Well I guess technically he did respond to Mayling post by the time I just put that up, but ya know. Ninjas.
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It has absolutely nothing to do with how you acted toward Hida. However, if you think that Hida has done nothing then you have not paid any attention at all to the posts that he has made.Why am I the one being persecuted. Have I missed an entire day's worth of material? The case on Hida is nothing because Hida has done nothing. Really not worth a lynch. Pressure on him, yes. Questions to him, yes. But there was no incriminating evidence, so not a lynch. Pressure needed to be applied before you even L-1'd him (btw Mister Eric is scum, Roxy is just ridiculous). This lynch accomplished nothing other than eliminating a no/low-read player. If he flips scum, you may as well have guessed what number I'm thinking of.
Delvro, why am I scummy. Because I didn't support the quicklynch and massacre of a player who we are unsure their alignment? Because I questioned you?
absolute garbage
Seto Kaiba, CEO of KaibaCorp, town Miller. Being Miller is why I didn't role claim to try and save myself, since claiming Miller is totally meaningless. "Oh yeah, I'm really town, but if you have any detection powers I'll show up as scum. But it's just a misread. I'm really on your side. I swear."Hida, who was your character and what was your role?
Explain to me why at this point you really thought Jeremy was town, and not lying about his role even though he could be lynched.Jeremy is really town? Ugu. I fail.
So you jumped around my question completely here, nice. I'll ask again, why am I suspicious to you? And also, go ahead and tell me what the most significant thing Hida had done before my post, and why it mattered.It has absolutely nothing to do with how you acted toward Hida. However, if you think that Hida has done nothing then you have not paid any attention at all to the posts that he has made.
Could you explain your reasoning a bit here? The other two people who jumped on Clown's wagon suspiciously to you flipped town, how does this make Eric worth looking into. Why would Hida be working to force a lynch early if he was town?Well if he is telling the truth, then Roxy is definitely worth looking into toMorrow for hammering this early. Also will definitely be looking into Eric, who is now the only one of the three people who jumped on Clown's wagon suspiciously (imo) on D1 who is left alive. If hida is town, it's possible the two of them were working together to force the lynch early.
Stating the obvious twice here. If you think scum was on the wagon, who, other than Roxy? I don't like asking this question here, but I've forgotten my thoughts on you and need to re-access.I wish Roxy hadn't hammered as soon as she did like that. Vote: Roxy. Either way, I definitely think scum was on the wagon.
Well yeah, I wasn't around to say it earlier, so I'm saying it now. Apart from Roxy; Eric and Delvro jumped on the wagon WAY too lightly for my liking. Especially because they were the ones who took the wagon from from L-3 to 'lynched.'Stating the obvious twice here. If you think scum was on the wagon, who, other than Roxy? I don't like asking this question here, but I've forgotten my thoughts on you and need to re-access.
I'm suspicious of you because you're really scummy, Sold2. You've played an oddball game since day 1 and it throws me off balance.So you jumped around my question completely here, nice. I'll ask again, why am I suspicious to you? And also, go ahead and tell me what the most significant thing Hida had done before my post, and why it mattered.
What? Because he as ALREADY lynched. There was no reason for him to keep lying, imo. especially with "I was the miller btw." if he flipped scum at that point, he would have just looked foolish. Imo, once lynched, there's no real reason to keep lying, even as scum. Yes, scum may be like "Hahaha I was town, fools!" but Jeremy's post clearly did not come across as that. It came across as the truth, and unlike SRB he was trying to give us information and his suspicions.Explain to me why at this point you really thought Jeremy was town, and not lying about his role even though he could be lynched.
I think the question may be, why won't you answer it?Why are you interested, Delvro?
Imo, scum should always continue lying to the very end of twilight. It's a good way to distract town from planning anything with night actions/what they'll do tomorrow, etc. Scum should try to look convincing with it too, but w/e I guess I see what you thought.What? Because he as ALREADY lynched. There was no reason for him to keep lying, imo. especially with "I was the miller btw." if he flipped scum at that point, he would have just looked foolish. Imo, once lynched, there's no real reason to keep lying, even as scum. Yes, scum may be like "Hahaha I was town, fools!" but Jeremy's post clearly did not come across as that. It came across as the truth, and unlike SRB he was trying to give us information and his suspicions.
Because information helps town and you're the only person alive who has claimed (right?)Why are you interested, Delvro?
Delvro... you jumped my (second) question again. And also, yes it is very easy for me to do this accusation now that I know Hida was town. I don't see how that should give you the right to simply not answer my question, and for you to defend the statement you made yesterday.It's because I already said why I voted on Day 2 and really don't feel like explaining it again post mortem. Secondly, I'm not inclined to pursue the same things that I wanted to on Day 2, as my opinions have changed since then.
The kitchen boiler hath brought accusation, denouncing the color of darkness that is the kettle.Sold2 said:Clownboat, I'll agree that Delvro seems a bit too interested in what you did last night, but just go ahead and tell us. Really, as far as we know, he only jailed someone so the information we can get from that is minimal.
Why are you so hesitant to tell us who you jailed? The only reason you wouldn't tell us is because you're afraid to be caught in a lie.How exactly is that information helpful to Town?
1) Because I didn't like the way the three of them joined (or nudged, in Eric's case) Clown's wagon. If the other two were town, that leaves me one suspect left. Process of elimination.S2 said:Could you explain your reasoning a bit here? The other two people who jumped on Clown's wagon suspiciously to you flipped town, how does this make Eric worth looking into. Why would Hida be working to force a lynch early if he was town?
This is also why I didn't like Eric from before, because he nudged Clown's case, except there he didn't even commit to a vote.vand said:Apart from Roxy; Eric and Delvro jumped on the wagon WAY too lightly for my liking
"It's tough for me to find a flaw in anyone's play so far.Eric said:It also doesn't help that since it is D1, fingers are being pointed everywhere and it's hard for me to really see a flaw in anyone's play this early.
But,
what I do feel confident in as of now is my vote for SRB. he has had quite a bit of heat from different players but just seems to flake out responses and doesn't really answer people's questions.
It was a joke vote at first, but now I'm sure I'm leaving it be for the time being
buddyingEric said:p.s., I liked Delvro's original dialect or w/e the right word is. it reminds me of home![]()
So it's difficult for you to draw conclusions, and you don't know anything D1, but you're ready to take on SRB wholeheartedly? Which one is it?Eric said:I already told you that it's difficult for me to draw conclusions so early into the game. It's just a jumpy jump-fest that I haven't caught on to yet. I would say "please remember my playstyle from my last mafia game" but then you'd prob point out that I was scum and leave it at that. I wish there was some way to convince you that I'm still not 100% comfortable with making first steps yet but I will leave you with your suspicions.
[and then later in the same post, responding to an OMGUS from SRB]
Aww, uMad?
Bring it.
"Hey everyone, Mayling made a good case, Clownbot's looking like a good lynch. Now allow me to sit back so my vote doesn't get recorded on a mislynch."Eric said:@Mayling:
Good ****. My vote might be shimmying Clownbot's way mighty soon.
Note that, if Eric had voted when he originally posted about Clownbot, that would've put Clown at L-4, not L-1. It's only later on when having to respond to the accusation that he's nudging that he claims Clown would've been at L-1 if he voted.Eric said:Well first of all the wagon is doing fine without me on it. I think with me on it it would be L-1, and that could lead to a premature lynch. Because as you can see, Mayling's cold, hard facts aren't 100% in stone and I'd rather more is gotten out of Clownbot than a quick lynch. consider it a FoS without announcing it. doesnt mean I have to throw my vote around.
"Even though we're 225 posts into the game, I still don't know anything. Except for SRB and Clown, who are totally both scum. I won't admit this about Clown, of course, since I'm being scrutinized for it, so I'll leave open the possibility that he could be town. And SRB is totally scum. But other than that, I don't know anything."Eric said:if you want to play your evil scum card on me, go right ahead.
but you wont get much information out of me this early, especially since im a slow player. granted some Newbie 3 players might expect me to slither right by again with all my "scumminess." but that's a typical human for ya, always fear what don't understand.
Nope, you aren't pushing for SRB at all. I do feel the need to re-post your original reasoning for voting him:Eric said:Oh yeah SRB, I'm pushin REAL HARD for your lynch. Just bc im the conductor of this little choo choo train doesnt mean anyone is going to hop on board. and they arent. im still not 100% on what to do.
I almost want to be lynched D1 just to watch you feel dumb. Unless you're a scum bag, then I suppose the joke's on me.
Bring it.
"For the time being" includes the entire day, I guess?Eric said:what I do feel confident in as of now is my vote for SRB. he has had quite a bit of heat from different players but just seems to flake out responses and doesn't really answer people's questions.
It was a joke vote at first, but now I'm sure I'm leaving it be for the time being
SRB said:that's EXACTLY my point.
like you, scum try to nudge suspicion on someone and don't commit to their accusations. That way when the townie gets mislynched they get the joy of having started the wagon, but the luxury of saying they had no part in it. it's a big anti-town move and you are a repeat offender.
"Go ahead and lynch me, then you'll be sorry!"Eric said:We'll see how plain and simple it is when I flip. Overanalyzing my waiting to see if Mayling's offense holds true or not could just be your downfall. And beep yeah she was on the ball. Prob the most hard evidence a player has found thus far in the game.
So why didn't I change my vote?
I've told you, I didn't want to be a part of a quick lynch gone wrong. He ended up at L-1 and he just might have died if I had hopped on board early. Seeing that there are a few holes in how legit this evidence is, I'm glad I was in no hurry. You're going to learn that I'm a no hurry kind of guy. Or maybe you won't give me time to. Your call.
Ah I see. You both saw the upswing in votes on Clownbot, AND the deterioration of his wagon in advance. Wow. What are the winning Lotto numbers this week? I'd definitely like to be a part of that.Eric on D2 said:When Mayling was bringing down the evidence on Clownbot, for once it seemed like we were productively getting somewhere. Ands I gots excited. It's D1 and May^2 is already bringin the pain! Of course this should call for a vote switch. But I said I "might" change my vote and I only said this because Clownbot didn't really have a shot to defend himself. And once he did, the train soon fell apart as I thought it could have.
"I don't mind if people ask me questions, as long as they don't think about them, or the answers to those questions."Eric said:Yeah..they were but I wasn't. Granted, I was excited. I won't hesitate to show my emotions. I don't mind if it brings questions, as long as it doesn't get out of hand and gets overanalyzed. I couldn't tell you the last time, or first haha, that I've questioned someone. It's very seldom, and I actually need to change this and plan to. I think I'll start it off at the end of this post.
So now it is hard facts with no holes in it then, huh? I guess when everyone else kind of fell off Clown's wagon, you were disappointed that he wasn't still a candidate? Because I see no mention of the holes in Mayling's case here. Now he's just a potential candidate with "hard facts" to support it.Eric said:From hard facts (Clownbot) to quirky playstyle (SRB) to Fluff'n'stuff (Roxy) I'm not sure which has been the best wagon to be on thus far.
"See, it's SRB's own fault he got lynched. Even though I had my vote on him the entire day which was for an RVS reason in the first place."Eric said:I think that even though he flipped town that we should not be totally down about that because with his displayed play style he exhibited D1, that it would have just held us back with people randomly getting bad vibes from him, and scum just feeding off it. My opinion about the wagon in general, welp, I just feel that if he had dodged a lynch, as just said, he would just keep attracting random surges of attention because of his quirky choice of play. Especially quirky to the like of Mayling. Overall, I think it was a case of bad town play, he didnt even help during twilight when asked to. Which should win: Anger & Scum? or Understanding and Townies?
Eric said:I'm taking my laptop to MLG, but no guarantee on how much (if any) I'll be using it.
For now, I'd like to sheep my vote on Hida, but I'm unsure what the vote count is...he's at 4 right? so my vote would L-1 him? I'd hate to be the hammer...er without meaning too.
w/e tho, hope you've got something good to cover your rear, hida
"See, I'm just sheeping? If hida gets lynched and it's wrong, it's someone else's fault. I'll be at a tournament and am just following town."Eric said:ah,,,, i cant resists!
vote: hidajiremi
wish me luck at mlg! ^_^
(purdy plz)
1) And who, gasp, does Eric choose to provoke? Is it the guy with the cold, hard facts against him? Is it the guy whom his Vote has been on all day? Nope. He chooses fluff'n'stuff.Eric said:I couldn't tell you the last time, or first haha, that I've questioned someone. It's very seldom, and I actually need to change this and plan to. I think I'll start it off at the end of this post.
[later on in the post...]
From hard facts (Clownbot) to quirky playstyle (SRB) to Fluff'n'stuff (Roxy) I'm not sure which has been the best wagon to be on thus far. But I would like to provoke one of them:
@Roxy: Even though you despise D1, who has been your biggest suspect so far and why?
As you're the only one with a vote in your hand.
..................................................................................................................................................................................Got back from Columbus at 2 am, worked all day today and now I'm back to check out mafia. 0-2...looks like mcfox wants to go 0-3.
You see, the thing is, haven't we seen a nice little trend involving good cases leading to bad lynches?
But good **** mcfox! you're on the ball. I might be shimmying my vote mighty soon.
The question that I said you jumped was "What was the most significant thing Hida had done, and why did it matter?" because you stated that he had done something, and I fail to see what. If it's in your actual vote reasoning, excuse me because your vote reasoning is strewn across too many posts.It's because I already said why I voted on Day 2 and really don't feel like explaining it again post mortem. Secondly, I'm not inclined to pursue the same things that I wanted to on Day 2, as my opinions have changed since then.
I'm unsure what you're getting at here other than kettle and pot, and I'm going to assume you're talking about interest in Clownbot's results. I agreed that Clownbot should just go on and tell us, but why did you feel it was more important than asking people questions about the quicklynch of a townie (esp. given that I feel said lynch was unjustified.) How much new info could be brought up by a jailer anyways? The only thing I could see happening is the jailer claiming a target, and the target confirming that they got jailed by some means.The kitchen boiler hath brought accusation, denouncing the color of darkness that is the kettle.
that or I'm just from hickville, USA, much diff from Louisiana. You should visit. Eastern KY makes me smile and embarrassed at times so I'm going to comment on that.Originally Posted by Eric
p.s., I liked Delvro's original dialect or w/e the right word is. it reminds me of home
buddying
yea, I like to get my feet wet with the game, regardless if im hesitant or not. some times i randomly try it, most of the time it fails. I even said towards his lynch that I was having second thoughts about his scummyness.Originally Posted by Eric
I already told you that it's difficult for me to draw conclusions so early into the game. It's just a jumpy jump-fest that I haven't caught on to yet. I would say "please remember my playstyle from my last mafia game" but then you'd prob point out that I was scum and leave it at that. I wish there was some way to convince you that I'm still not 100% comfortable with making first steps yet but I will leave you with your suspicions.
[and then later in the same post, responding to an OMGUS from SRB]
Aww, uMad?
Bring it.
So it's difficult for you to draw conclusions, and you don't know anything D1, but you're ready to take on SRB wholeheartedly? Which one is it?
Can't argue with that.Originally Posted by Eric
@Mayling:
Good ****. My vote might be shimmying Clownbot's way mighty soon.
"Hey everyone, Mayling made a good case, Clownbot's looking like a good lynch. Now allow me to sit back so my vote doesn't get recorded on a mislynch."
you're mean, I almost want to OMGUS vote you for that, but I be a nice townie.Ah I see. You both saw the upswing in votes on Clownbot, AND the deterioration of his wagon in advance. Wow. What are the winning Lotto numbers this week? I'd definitely like to be a part of that.
hmm? that would just be analyzing then. im okie dokie with that =]"I don't mind if people ask me questions, as long as they don't think about them, or the answers to those questions."
1) I chose fluff'n'stuff simply because I wanted to see more than just fluff, and that's what I received...a good case. I thought that was obvious.1) And who, gasp, does Eric choose to provoke? Is it the guy with the cold, hard facts against him? Is it the guy whom his Vote has been on all day? Nope. He chooses fluff'n'stuff.
2) This is the only question Eric chooses to ask anyone since he made his "plan" in that post to start asking people questions, effectively making it appeasement for bad play in the hopes that it would be forgotten.
that's Mister Eric to you.tl;dr - Vote: Eric
Delvro, can you point out where you've said you think Sold2 is scummy on Day 1. I can't seem to find anything. Otherwise, I'm just going to assume that this is a new stance of yours.I'm suspicious of you because you're really scummy, Sold2. You've played an oddball game since day 1 and it throws me off balance.
This doesn't make the case on you any less valid. It's nice to note that you were on those "good cases" as well.You see, the thing is, haven't we seen a nice little trend involving good cases leading to bad lynches?
Of course, and it has nothing to do with that. The quick hammer was truly a shame.Also, future notice. If you are a cop/power role or anything like that, and you get jailed, don't claim to confirm the Jailer's ability. It should go without saying, but so should not hammering someone before they defend themself.
I never did say anything about Soldier2 on day 1.Delvro, can you point out where you've said you think Sold2 is scummy on Day 1. I can't seem to find anything. Otherwise, I'm just going to assume that this is a new stance of yours.
So you didn't get roleblocked or anything? Nobody has done anything at all to you since Day 1?I believe I was speaking to Delvro, but whatever.
I targeted Mayling. I'd still like to hear (from Delvro) how the info is beneficial to Town.
Lol, I love how you place a vote down on me pretty much every time I say something to you.Nice question dodge. Vote Delvro
I already said why I targeted Mayling and I really don't have to explain further. It's as simple as "if she's town I thought she might be targeted." If she's scum then I would have lucked out had she been the one who sent the kill PM, but Town or Scum, she didn't.
So far the information has been less than beneficial to Town seeing as how it allowed you to misconstrue (or pretend to do so if you're Scum) it to make me look suspicious.