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Matchup discussion week 29 - Peach

MarcBuckley

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you know what just stop, you've gone so far off topic that this thread is was completely taken away from falco mains this is now an arguement between you and other peach mains, you seriously need to take this is PM or on the Peach boards Peach vs. Falco matchup thread leave all the drama in our own boards Falcos don't need to deal with it. Or just drop it no one cares anymore

seriously just drop it
 

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How much can you john WC Peach players? Let me shut you boys up with this and end this chapter:

I play NL diddy all the time, he has that Peach practice, more than needed. I lose to his diddy all the time. Now if I was to go to the diddy boards and say "Peach Vs Diddy is in Diddys favor cause I can't beat NL and he is one of the top diddys in the country, does that mean Diddy>Peach? At this point Ninjalink started thinking Diddy had the advantage. Then he played Someone who knew his ****, Kos-Mos, and beat NL. He never got a game off him. The He also beat ADHD and ADHD never got a game off him nether. But wait, NL plays me all the time, and he is known as one of the best Diddys out and I was known as one of the Top Peach players. I lost all the time to him. The match up must be in diddys favor, it has to be cause i play him all the time and he always beats ME. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY TO MAKE MY POINT, IT IS TRUTH, CAUSE OF THIS, PEACH IS AT A DISADVANTAGE TO DIDDY. Even NL thought so. But Kos-Mos rewrote that book. If he had never played Kos-Mos and just keep beating the **** out of me and the other Peach players he has played, he think it is in diddys favor. Or it would lead to an even match up.

See what I said up here?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Pefefect example of you and Praxis. And I don't count edreese in this anymore cause we spoke and thinks Peach can beat Falco, just not in her favor. But you boys, are on another level.


So first off, you need to quit with these johns. Second of all, you need to stop butting riding these players and get to the character first, then the player. From how I seen all you go on about this, I can say, these falcos are smarter than you are. And at the same time you can't explain the match up, you just keep bring this players up over and over and over. This means nothing. You boys seriously don't understand at all. Has these falcos kick your butts so much your mindset is as weak as you play them? Seriously sickning.

I on the other hand went into detail in the match up from both sides. I spoke my peace way more than I had too. So Pack it up, and quit using the same logic/john to explain a point. You discuss and look throw the match up fully. To beat someone, you go through the character they are playing. get into it and learn all that you can do. THEN worry about the damm player, you boys are backwards to no end.

This post just killed it for you boys. I should have made this sooner. So I'll say this again, you boys can't fight falco. The Falcos don't even agree with 50-50 and I am more on thier side then with you boys, and they are the enemy. Look at how they been talking about a match up compared to you, seriously look. You can't bring a player to back up a CHARACTER discussion. The player is not the character. Let me bring light to you boys on how it is done.

Correct Way

Dark.Pch: Peach is even With Falco, that is what I say
KuroZero: I think Falco has the advantage And here is why "..................................."
Dark.Pch: Ok, But check this out "................................................."
KuroZero: Yea that is true and you make good points but ".................................................."
Dark: Yea Falco get do this and get away with that. It's annoying, hahaha. But we got "............"
KuroZero: Yea **** is a pain, But I don't agree with "............................."
Dark.Pch: Ok (at this point I try to make my point clear on what he does not agree with, wether he will change his mind or not is on him, but I explained my self in so much detail as usual"
KuroZero: Ok (he explains himself as I did

(at this point we agree and disagree with different and the same stuff)

Then other falcos do the same with me. And it is done. What you and Praxis do:

You Are Doing it Wrong!

Praxis/Metatitan: Falco ***** Peach
Dark.Pch/few falcos: The match up is 50-50/45-55 Falco, it is not that serious
Praxis/Metatitan: Yes it is, We have SK9 and DEFH, and we play them all the time, and we can't beat them. And we have top Peach players here that lose to them.
Dark.Pch/Some Falcos: (we explain the match up from both sides to make our points.)
Praxis/Metatitan: no, I am telling you we play these top Falcos and we lose to them all the time, we can't win so Peach can not beat falco cause of us. We don't have to explain, this is is enough.
(Dark.Pch gets more into the match up then usual and falcos share thier peace yet again)
Dark.Pch/Metatitan: Guys seriously I am telling you, we have SK92 and DEFH and they even say the match up is ****. And we play them all the time and we can never beat them. I am telling you it is true. Peach can't beat falco.

^ freaking fails on so many levels. I never knew these players were in brawl. I know the character was, but the players.? "The hell with falco in general, lets get the players behind them to back us up. we don't need to explain the match up, we have these falcos here we can't beat, nuff said."

This is weak. This relates to my example I made with Diddy kong. Look at how flawed you boys are. I'm not freaking stupid as you think. What you boys do is just NO. I know how to talk about a match up and all the info I bring to the table is not stupid crap I learned from scrubs. I look it to match ups as hard as I can like a murder case. You boys know for a year I don't play around, You seriously know that to be talking this nonsesne.

I don't care if you think The match up is **** for Peach. Falcos think so too. But look at what you been doing all this time to explain yourself. Take a good look and then sit in front of your PC and think for a good while. Edreese I respected what he says (even if I think he can't fight falcos well or not) cause he was not on the same crap as you boys are. he says it is 40:60 Falco, I don't agree with that but respect this man for at least explaining himself with some details like the rest of us. But you 2? Oh god...

I seriously should have made this post a long time ago and avoid so much crap. I don't care if WC Peach players think they are the shizz and talk hype stuff off and talk crap. I'm smarter than anyone of you think I am and when I speak about Match ups or Peach in general, don't take me like some fool as usual. Cause the one that come out as weak mindset bias cowards is you. Now go on and keep saying "we have SK92 and DEFH, thats all we have to say and that other nonsense. You make my point more clear and this post the eye of truth. People seriously take me as a fool cause I am not liked on smashboards and many think I plan suck and talk alot of crap about me. Hmm Hmm Hmm! Underratted intelligence cause of the image one has on the other is just a godly trap.


And once again I don't agree with 45-55. But we all talked about this and most say 45:55, iy seems to add up to that. And this is what we do in match ups discussing here. we got more than enough info for you falco players. I do not object to give falco the advantage here as that ratio.


Check mate Peach players.

You know you're not really smart :). I never once said peach couldn't beat falco, I just said it was a disadvantage (40:60). Besides, you don't play good falcos, so that's the main difference between the two scenarios. Ninjalink has a top diddy, D1 does not have a top falco. Kos-Mos knows the matchup while you did not. The only difference is that Kos-Mos played top diddy kongs, I have yet to hear of one top falco main you've played. But if you wanna continue to think that I think the MU is impossible (which I never said) and continue to use your distorted flawed logic then go ahead :urg:
 

Dark.Pch

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you know what just stop, you've gone so far off topic that this thread is was completely taken away from falco mains this is now an arguement between you and other peach mains, you seriously need to take this is PM or on the Peach boards Peach vs. Falco matchup thread leave all the drama in our own boards Falcos don't need to deal with it. Or just drop it no one cares anymore

seriously just drop it
You know you're not really smart :). I never once said peach couldn't beat falco, I just said it was a disadvantage (40:60). Besides, you don't play good falcos, so that's the main difference between the two scenarios. Ninjalink has a top diddy, D1 does not have a top falco. Kos-Mos knows the matchup while you did not. The only difference is that Kos-Mos played top diddy kongs, I have yet to hear of one top falco main you've played. But if you wanna continue to think that I think the MU is impossible (which I never said) and continue to use your distorted flawed logic then go ahead :urg:
Check mate, this is over.
 

Dark.Pch

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Oh? I don't get any love, I come here wqhen you falcos ask for help and this is the thanks i get, well screw you! Screw you guys! You can all kick rocks you ungratful sons of furcrap!

OK, jokes aside, spoke with Praxis, I have no need to kill him anymore but how he thinks still irks me a lil, but this is pretty much done with, still have beef with a few others though.
 

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Without Peach, there would be nobody to bake Falco's Bread.

Peach has this matchup for sure.
 

#HBC | ZoZo

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Comparing logic and arguments I think it's fair to say 55:45.

I know praxis played DEHF and SK92, but it might be because of his playstyle (I don't want to offend you praxis, I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad one).

Although I'd like to hear DEHF or SK92 themselves about this before making a final verdict...
 

Typ_Ex

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Oh? I don't get any love, I come here wqhen you falcos ask for help and this is the thanks i get, well screw you! Screw you guys! You can all kick rocks you ungratful sons of furcrap!

OK, jokes aside, spoke with Praxis, I have no need to kill him anymore but how he thinks still irks me a lil, but this is pretty much done with, still have beef with a few others though.
I didn't ask. I have my own personal opinion on this matchup that doesn't agree with yours. And your posts are too long to read :urg:
 

Typ_Ex

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So because your opinion differs he gets no credit?

Sigh.
Way to completely ignore the 2nd part of my post. Allow me to elaborate so my posts aren't taken the wrong way. His first post has more stuff than i could have asked for. His posts to follow though are mainly to argue w/ other peach members about our 2-3 best falcos.

Im sure there is probably something credible in there too, but i am too lazy to sift through the arguments.

Oh yeah, i suppose i can't love edrees since he didnt post. So praxis!
 

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Way to completely ignore the 2nd part of my post. Allow me to elaborate so my posts aren't taken the wrong way. His first post has more stuff than i could have asked for. His posts to follow though are mainly to argue w/ other peach members about our 2-3 best falcos.

Im sure there is probably something credible in there too, but i am too lazy to sift through the arguments.

Oh yeah, i suppose i can't love edrees since he didnt post. So praxis!
You can love him for his time spent...
 

Praxis

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Comparing logic and arguments I think it's fair to say 55:45.

I know praxis played DEHF and SK92, but it might be because of his playstyle (I don't want to offend you praxis, I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad one).

Although I'd like to hear DEHF or SK92 themselves about this before making a final verdict...
Edrees and IIRC Metatitan have played them too.

DEHF posted 60:40 Falco last time we did a matchup discussion. You can search for it if you want.
I've left SK92 a message but he's away at Evo right now.
 

MarcBuckley

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Oh? I don't get any love, I come here wqhen you falcos ask for help and this is the thanks i get, well screw you! Screw you guys! You can all kick rocks you ungratful sons of furcrap!

OK, jokes aside, spoke with Praxis, I have no need to kill him anymore but how he thinks still irks me a lil, but this is pretty much done with, still have beef with a few others though.
Dude from reading this it looks like you saw in the thread name Peach and then wandered in here of your own accord i don't recall anywhere someone summoning you to this thread it was a Falco to Falco get together on how to deal with her and Falco is Feathered he's a Bird FYI and i thought you were done with this why are you still continuing
 

Dark.Pch

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Dude from reading this it looks like you saw in the thread name Peach and then wandered in here of your own accord i don't recall anywhere someone summoning you to this thread it was a Falco to Falco get together on how to deal with her and Falco is Feathered he's a Bird FYI and i thought you were done with this why are you still continuing
OMFG, dude I said I was kidding. Seriously stop assuming stuff. it is done with so enough!
 

MarcBuckley

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OMFG, dude I said I was kidding. Seriously stop assuming stuff. it is done with so enough!
when you blow up the way did at praxis and edrees how the hell is anyone to know when you're joking around you just sent like 5 text walls on ranting in rage and then you expect us to know when you're kidding around no one understands you or maybe it's just me
 

Dark.Pch

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when you blow up the way did at praxis and edrees how the hell is anyone to know when you're joking around you just sent like 5 text walls on ranting in rage and then you expect us to know when you're kidding around no one understands you or maybe it's just me
"OK, jokes aside"

See that? ^ said it in the scecond paragraph Also I don't show emotions online, I don't use "LOL" or faces, you out of all people know this. So you can't just think I am one way and not ask, cause just as you though here, you was wrong. if I am a certian was I will say it, like I have been.

All I a saying is next time don't assume. Cause when you do, others wanna jump in that don't like me and then.....yea need I explain the rest? I'm seriously not this evil whinny b@stard most of this site see me as. Ask people who I chill and play with about me. Actually people who chill with me and play ask me how the hell are you like that online and so freaking cool and chill in tournys or smashfest. All I say "this site is annoying and not to fond of this community"

Anyway on a seriously note of this thread. I don't think I have anything to say about falco. I think I could right another book report about Falco some more, things I have not said. But I think this is enough. Maybe I should harass the meta players, oh what fun that would be and me getting ganged up so bad and the insults. Ha ha ha!
 

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I talked to kismet today on AIM, he said that the matchup is 60:40 Falco's favor.

I guess thats it. 60:40 it is?
 
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