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Fox vs. King Dedede
Fox vs. King Dedede
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Things to keep in mind while discussing!
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* Keep a proper wording,
don't insult or yell at the other people discussing inside of this thread.
Although that shouldn't even be mentioned, I've seen it happen.
* Match-Up ratios are fairly subjective.
However, please don't overrate or underestimate a character.
Stuff like "lol, X can't do anything, RAEP!" is not going to aid us in our discussion.
* Don't theorycraft too much.
Keep in mind that while Fox or the character we're discussing in this thread
are able to do a certain move at a certain time, don't just throw this out,
but rather think if this is actually practical and used by good players of these characters.
* If you are new to the discussion, please don't state trivial things.
Best would be to read the discussion properly,
or at least the first and last few pages should the thread go on for a while already.
Saying "Fox can reflect all of X's projectiles." might be true,
but probably has already been mentioned.
* Discussions will be held for about 2 weeks - unless the need of expanding is felt.
The first week will bring a temporary ratio that then will corrected during the second.________________________________
King Dedede 
KEY POINTS
Advantages
Disadvantages
Summary
IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION
Strategy & Match-Up Mentality
Aerial Game: DDD outspaces you on a head on attack in the air but you still excel in this area do to he can't do much when he is above you and fatness makes our combos even better.
Ground Game: If you overdo this DDD will be LOL and grab you through the TV. He also outspaces you but you outspeed him just don't do this.
Approach: Read the 1st sentence in Ground game.
Defense: Camp and punish he laggy moves to switch to offense and combo/string the Fatty
Camping Game: SHTL AND MORE SHTL it will force him to approach Waddle Dee, Do, or Don't it will force his approach, just do it.
Edge Game: Don't try this, you won't gain or lose anything just punish his Up B if you can force it.
Surviving: Dodging DDD moves should not be hard but when you are hit, you WILL fly, so don't expect to live past 120%
Killing: No early kills here just keep tacking on damage which isn't hard at all in this MU then around 130% go for the kill.
Frame Data:
Stages
Stage Striking
* Possible Fox Strikes
Yoshi's Island (Brawl), Lylat Cruise,Castle Siege
* Possible King Dedede Strikes
Final Destination, Battlefield, Halberd, Pokémon Stadium 1
Yellow indicates a stage that is not commonly a starter, but possible.
Neither player should depend on these[/code]
Stage Banning
* Possible Fox Bans
Jungle Japes
* Possible King Dedede Bans
Final Destination
* To Be Classified:
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Battlefield, Smashville, Yoshi's Island (Brawl),
Castle Siege, Delfino Plaza, Halberd, Lylat Cruise, Pokémon Stadium 1, Brinstar,
Frigate Orpheon, Pictochat, Pirate Ship, Pokémon Stadium 2,
Rainbow Cruise, [COLOR="Yellow"]Yoshi's Island (Pipes), Green Greens, Port Town Aero Dive,
Distant Planet, Luigi's Mansion, Norfair[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Yellow"]Yellow indicates a stage that is not commonly legal, but possible.
Neither player should depend on these[/COLOR]* Possible Fox Counterpicks
Final Destination
* Possible King Dedede Counterpicks
* To Be Classified:
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Battlefield, Smashville, Yoshi's Island (Brawl),
Castle Siege, Delfino Plaza, Halberd, Lylat Cruise, Pokémon Stadium 1, Brinstar,
Frigate Orpheon, Jungle Japes, Pictochat, Pirate Ship, Pokémon Stadium 2,
Rainbow Cruise, [COLOR="Yellow"]Yoshi's Island (Pipes), Green Greens, Port Town Aero Dive,
Distant Planet, Luigi's Mansion, Norfair[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Yellow"]Yellow indicates a stage that is not commonly legal, but possible.
Neither player should depend on these[/COLOR]None
Videos & Other Outside Resources
VERDICT 
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