Phewww longest title yet?
So lately ive noticed theres some fresh new folks posting on the zelda boards. Which is saying alot cause aside from like GnW and kirby these threads seem more dead than ever.
I mean we got puffs, ganons, peaches, falcons, sheiks tearing things up now adays so i guess its no wonder anyone would bother to crank it with zelda anymore...
WELL I SAID DIDDLY POOTS TO THAT! (Yeah i went there) Its time for some low tier reppege. Hell you dont have to win tourneys but zelda definately can make an impression to say the least.
Theres hope for the ol girl. Maybe not to solo her cause frankly shes a bit simplistic and predictable but as counter pick fodder? YOU BETCHA! shes pefect for it imo! So lets work on this oddly vacant concept of match ups that this section has been missing for far to long.
We can discuss whatever so feel free to post anything
**Warning: Grammar very bad almost like caveman but not as good**
zelda is all about the wisdom after all so i think we just need to have a colabrative understanding on how this underrated beauty queen can really kick some toocus on the unsuspecting tiers above
So for now (ill update as much as i can, whenver i can) lets do the ONLY matchup that shouldnt be debated by any stretch of the imagination....
Shiek "This games winner is...SHIEK"
Ratio = 10/90 for shiek
Best stages = Brinstar and Rainbow cruise*
Worst stages = Everywhere else
Advantages = Range in the air
Disadvantages = Range means squat when shieks being ***** all
*Bias
So ever wonder to yourself..."Gee golly wouldnt it be swell to tag with zelda AND shiek? gosh that'd be so broken and super!". Well the sad truth is that the reason this hasnt been done viably (debately by captain jack who had a groovy zelda) is because its not only NOT broken but its actually UNbroken. Yeah you heard me it'll actually make YOU worst becaaauuuse 1. Sheik combos, zelda finishes; that was the intended formula but the problem here is shiek can do both...very well were zelda well...cant 2. Changing from zelda to shiek makes you better but going to shiek to zelda makes you abazillion times worst AND you lose your intial invincibility when coming off that platform thingy and shiek needs here invincibility as we all know...which remiiinds me
WHY DOES SHE GET INVINCIBILTY ON LIKE EVERYTHING?! Poor zelda...her up B gets ***** by sheiks needles and Bair. Sheik has free throw combos that are nigh impossible to kick out of unless your opponent is a twit. Zeldas grab is about as prominent as the amazon river dolphin which is almost extinct. It neeever happens and even if it did bagh...like you can set up anything on sheik anyways (Which is not true...you can set up some dope *** upsmashes and kicks at early up throw percents but for the sake of exageration and dramatic effect bare with me). The only reason why this match up isnt 100 percent in shieks favor is because zelda can turn into sheik. Thats about it. I dare not write more of the horrors of this match up but know friends that there is a slight glimmer of hope. You can strangle your opponent as he plays or kick him vigorously outside of the game. Heckling and mom jokes have also proven to be effective. Zeldas worst matchup straiiight up.
Zelda "The gift that keeps on kicking"
Ratio = 50/50 >.<
Best stages = Anywhere your comfortable
Worst stages = Anywhere your not....or anywhere with shiek on it you will probably lose
Advantages = Your gonna read this and **** every cool person who hasn't read this
Disadvantages = Every cool person is going to read this
Oh la la the legendary zelda ditto. Dittos are very mental. Im quite a fan of them. I also greatly enjoy zelda dittos. However Im awares that some folks dont like dittoing and avoid doing it whenever nessicary. But its time to man up and rep your character. Dittos are the coolest way to express your play style by having it pinned against someone who is playing the same character. So first things first. You gotta be confident. Duh right? But you'd be suprised how many folks miss treat this bit of staggering knowledge....like the matchup is 50 50 because ANY of you have a chance in the matchup. You need to think it 60/50 giving you the edge. You gotta believe ****it!
So your goal of the match up is as follows "My zeldas cooler and im gonna prove it" or somthing arrogant and fun along those lines. In a ditto there are 2 kinds of roles. The flashy fun technical one and the boring effective guy. Find out what role you will play in this specific match and your golden. The quicker one to be comfortable wins. Once you find your role you'll be schooling punks left in right cause it will keep your style in check.
Actual things to apply in the matchup? All that mental mumbo jumbo wasnt good enough for ya eh? GOOD FOR YOU! Ok so dash attack ***** sort of....push under the kick! OH and about our favorite move...DONT USE IT! thats right folks the secret to zelda dittoing....is
NOT...kicking as much as possible! I cant believe I said it! But nah you gotta kick but not so much mmkay? You gotta like double wait for folks...bait with kicks rather then chase or pressure with em. Nairs meh....your smashes work wonders in this matchup and weak kicks set up for grabs. Oh grab alot (OMG WHAT A WEIRD MATCHUP GRABBING WITH ZELDA OMG!) even if the grab doesnt mean anything in dittos grabbing is suuuper effective.
It establishes control....which you want. Commit to edgeguarding by jumping out and spooking them forcing them either on the stage for a free kick or on the ledge which you should have time to grab. Recovery wise try to sweetspot but if your gonna go on the stage light shield the moment you land. Oh and jab is seeex in this matchup but i just like jab <3 *strong homo for jab*
Ill post more and update whenever i can.
Lay it on me fellow wisdom seekers (:
So lately ive noticed theres some fresh new folks posting on the zelda boards. Which is saying alot cause aside from like GnW and kirby these threads seem more dead than ever.
I mean we got puffs, ganons, peaches, falcons, sheiks tearing things up now adays so i guess its no wonder anyone would bother to crank it with zelda anymore...
WELL I SAID DIDDLY POOTS TO THAT! (Yeah i went there) Its time for some low tier reppege. Hell you dont have to win tourneys but zelda definately can make an impression to say the least.
Theres hope for the ol girl. Maybe not to solo her cause frankly shes a bit simplistic and predictable but as counter pick fodder? YOU BETCHA! shes pefect for it imo! So lets work on this oddly vacant concept of match ups that this section has been missing for far to long.
We can discuss whatever so feel free to post anything
**Warning: Grammar very bad almost like caveman but not as good**
zelda is all about the wisdom after all so i think we just need to have a colabrative understanding on how this underrated beauty queen can really kick some toocus on the unsuspecting tiers above
So for now (ill update as much as i can, whenver i can) lets do the ONLY matchup that shouldnt be debated by any stretch of the imagination....
Shiek "This games winner is...SHIEK"
Ratio = 10/90 for shiek
Best stages = Brinstar and Rainbow cruise*
Worst stages = Everywhere else
Advantages = Range in the air
Disadvantages = Range means squat when shieks being ***** all
*Bias
So ever wonder to yourself..."Gee golly wouldnt it be swell to tag with zelda AND shiek? gosh that'd be so broken and super!". Well the sad truth is that the reason this hasnt been done viably (debately by captain jack who had a groovy zelda) is because its not only NOT broken but its actually UNbroken. Yeah you heard me it'll actually make YOU worst becaaauuuse 1. Sheik combos, zelda finishes; that was the intended formula but the problem here is shiek can do both...very well were zelda well...cant 2. Changing from zelda to shiek makes you better but going to shiek to zelda makes you abazillion times worst AND you lose your intial invincibility when coming off that platform thingy and shiek needs here invincibility as we all know...which remiiinds me
WHY DOES SHE GET INVINCIBILTY ON LIKE EVERYTHING?! Poor zelda...her up B gets ***** by sheiks needles and Bair. Sheik has free throw combos that are nigh impossible to kick out of unless your opponent is a twit. Zeldas grab is about as prominent as the amazon river dolphin which is almost extinct. It neeever happens and even if it did bagh...like you can set up anything on sheik anyways (Which is not true...you can set up some dope *** upsmashes and kicks at early up throw percents but for the sake of exageration and dramatic effect bare with me). The only reason why this match up isnt 100 percent in shieks favor is because zelda can turn into sheik. Thats about it. I dare not write more of the horrors of this match up but know friends that there is a slight glimmer of hope. You can strangle your opponent as he plays or kick him vigorously outside of the game. Heckling and mom jokes have also proven to be effective. Zeldas worst matchup straiiight up.
Zelda "The gift that keeps on kicking"
Ratio = 50/50 >.<
Best stages = Anywhere your comfortable
Worst stages = Anywhere your not....or anywhere with shiek on it you will probably lose
Advantages = Your gonna read this and **** every cool person who hasn't read this
Disadvantages = Every cool person is going to read this
Oh la la the legendary zelda ditto. Dittos are very mental. Im quite a fan of them. I also greatly enjoy zelda dittos. However Im awares that some folks dont like dittoing and avoid doing it whenever nessicary. But its time to man up and rep your character. Dittos are the coolest way to express your play style by having it pinned against someone who is playing the same character. So first things first. You gotta be confident. Duh right? But you'd be suprised how many folks miss treat this bit of staggering knowledge....like the matchup is 50 50 because ANY of you have a chance in the matchup. You need to think it 60/50 giving you the edge. You gotta believe ****it!
So your goal of the match up is as follows "My zeldas cooler and im gonna prove it" or somthing arrogant and fun along those lines. In a ditto there are 2 kinds of roles. The flashy fun technical one and the boring effective guy. Find out what role you will play in this specific match and your golden. The quicker one to be comfortable wins. Once you find your role you'll be schooling punks left in right cause it will keep your style in check.
Actual things to apply in the matchup? All that mental mumbo jumbo wasnt good enough for ya eh? GOOD FOR YOU! Ok so dash attack ***** sort of....push under the kick! OH and about our favorite move...DONT USE IT! thats right folks the secret to zelda dittoing....is
NOT...kicking as much as possible! I cant believe I said it! But nah you gotta kick but not so much mmkay? You gotta like double wait for folks...bait with kicks rather then chase or pressure with em. Nairs meh....your smashes work wonders in this matchup and weak kicks set up for grabs. Oh grab alot (OMG WHAT A WEIRD MATCHUP GRABBING WITH ZELDA OMG!) even if the grab doesnt mean anything in dittos grabbing is suuuper effective.
It establishes control....which you want. Commit to edgeguarding by jumping out and spooking them forcing them either on the stage for a free kick or on the ledge which you should have time to grab. Recovery wise try to sweetspot but if your gonna go on the stage light shield the moment you land. Oh and jab is seeex in this matchup but i just like jab <3 *strong homo for jab*
Ill post more and update whenever i can.
Lay it on me fellow wisdom seekers (: