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Masked Marauders - Skull Kid For Smash! Night of the Last Day.

What's your favourite transformation in Majora's Mask?

  • Deku Link

  • Goron Link

  • Zora Link


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OptimisticStrifer

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Man; If we got a conformation this week, along with other unrelated events, this would probably be top contender for best week of the year. I'm feeling it, cmooooon Skull Kid! (Also hopefully someone like Geno but mostly SKULL KID)
 

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The tricky thing about Majora's mask, though. I don't know if this a recent retcon thing, or old news, but turns out Termina isn't real. It was a world created by Majora's mask made with Skull Kid's own memories combined with it's dark magic, meaning it didn't exist before Skull Kid stole the Mask, and it no longer existed sometime after the spirit in the mask was supposedly killed.
Hyrule Encyclopedia is literal fanfiction and even has a disclaimer saying so. Pay anything it says no mind.
 

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I don't know about that. After all, Bayonetta's is ripped straight from the source. Nearly identical in a whole lot of ways.
Okay, that's a good point. I think what I was trying to say was he probably wouldn't rip a character from somewhere besides their source material? Like if Impa got in, I don't think she'd use her Hyrule Warriors abilities. I could easily be wrong though! We'll see.

I think another factor is that very few people actually seem to like the way he plays in Hyrule Warriors, so Sakurai might be hesitant to draw from that. Of course, the backlash would probably have been felt after he had already designed his moveset, so really, there's just no way to know.
 
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Hyrule Encyclopedia is literal fanfiction and even has a disclaimer saying so. Pay anything it says no mind.
Is that true? It's in the same series of books that the Hyrule Historia was in, published by Dark Horse and officially liscenced by Nintendo...
 

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Is that true? It's in the same series of books that the Hyrule Historia was in, published by Dark Horse and officially liscenced by Nintendo...
"This section covers both original and remake versions of key titles in the series, including HD rereleases, using the same names where referenced generally. It draws from in-game content as well as developmental and promotional materials, connecting the stories and worlds presented in each title as naturally as possible. Where necessary, the writers of this book added their own interpretations and expanded upon the games' stories. It should be noted that the events described here are also subject to revision, as new trials may await the people of Hyrule in ages to come."

Interpret that as you will.
 

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The LoZ Collection on GC has in-game text referring to Termina as an alternate dimension, in the game select menu. I mean, the same character models are there from OoT, I personally always pictured them as dopplegangers and the Happy Mask Salesman as this mysterious dimension jumper (notice how he is not threatened by the moon and merely says he'll be leaving in three days). Termina is a spatial pocket found in the Lost Woods, right?
 

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The LoZ Collection on GC has in-game text referring to Termina as an alternate dimension, in the game select menu. I mean, the same character models are there from OoT, I personally always pictured them as dopplegangers and the Happy Mask Salesman as this mysterious dimension jumper (notice how he is not threatened by the moon and merely says he'll be leaving in three days). Termina is a spatial pocket found in the Lost Woods, right?
Don't forget the bit where the Happy Mask Salesman says he knows about how Link is a hero, and he's been following him on his travels. Meaning, the Happy Mask Salesman was following Link throughout his adventure in OoT, and after Link was sent back in time into another Timeline, the Happy Mask Salesman followed him into the past of the new timeline. This would mean the Happy Mask Salesman, and likely the Skull Kid, are able to jump inbetween dimensions/worlds and possibly into different timelines or points in time. Seeing as Skull Kid clearly has a history in Termina, and assuming it existed before he took the Mask, he's been able to freely jump between Termina and Hyrule for ages.
 

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The LoZ Collection on GC has in-game text referring to Termina as an alternate dimension, in the game select menu. I mean, the same character models are there from OoT, I personally always pictured them as dopplegangers and the Happy Mask Salesman as this mysterious dimension jumper (notice how he is not threatened by the moon and merely says he'll be leaving in three days). Termina is a spatial pocket found in the Lost Woods, right?
Nevermind that the nonstandard game over of the moon actually falling and killing everyone, including Link, is implied to be undone by the Happy Mask Salesman. He's clearly a weirdly powerful figure.
 

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Nevermind that the nonstandard game over of the moon actually falling and killing everyone, including Link, is implied to be undone by the Happy Mask Salesman. He's clearly a weirdly powerful figure.
It's also interesting to note that the mask sales man clearly vanishes into thin air at the end of Majoras Mask, it kinda makes me wonder, if he's that powerful why doesn't he attempt to take back the mask himself?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taB0_lKtvoI
at 4:20
 
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It's also interesting to note that the mask sales man clearly vanishes into thin air at the end of Majoras Mask, it kinda makes me wonder, if he's that powerful why doesn't he attempt to take back the mask himself?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taB0_lKtvoI
at 4:20
Well, I could think of a few reasons.

One of the reasons being, he had this all planned out from the start, and the reason he did all of this and made Link do the work is because he wanted to help Link. Help him grow with the idea of loss, hardship, and learn about all the people he comes across. He does tell Link "Whenever there is a meeting, a parting shall follow. But that parting needs not last forever." And what he teaches Link in Majora's Mask goes over to Twilight Princess and helps Link teach the new Link and save himself as he does.

Two, as powerful as the Happy Mask Salesman is, he can't take on the mask itself as it might overpower him. All he can do is keep resetting the clock and stall time.

Three, this one is going more by the Manga itself. The Happy Mask Salesman was never a good guy, but a bad person doing good things for the sake of his own goals. Likely sending Link out to do the dirty work and play victim as he does, only to at the very end get back Majora's Mask, which may or may not have actually been 'cleansed of evil'.
 

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Happy Mask Salesman could have easily lied about the mask being cleansed, haha. That is an interesting idea.
 

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I mean, just consider it. Why would the Happy Mask Salesman have the mask in the first place? Why didn't the Mask hold any power over the Happy Mask Salesman or simply left him like it did Skull Kid? And more importantly, why would he bother keeping Majora's Mask instead of destroying it for good if it's supposedly cleansed? He says his goal as the Happy Mask Salesman is to make people happy, and carrying that mask around is doing the exact opposite.
The reasons as to why he might've lied about it could be similar reasons as to why he bothers carrying something like that around.
 

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eh....he sounded a bit disappointed. Why would he lie anyway?
Maybe he was trying to manipulate Link into thinking he was disappointed to sell the idea, maybe he lied so Link would stay off his tracks, and wouldn't try and stop him.
 

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Let's not forget about the children on the Moon, all of whom resemble young versions of the Happy Mask Salesman.
 

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Let's not forget about the children on the Moon, all of whom resemble young versions of the Happy Mask Salesman.
Perhaps.......the Mask Salesman was one of the Sheikah who created the Mask. (yes I believe that the Sheikah made the Mask)
 
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Perhaps.......the Mask Salesman was one of the Sheikah who created the Mask. (yes I believe that the Sheikah made the Mask)
It's not necessarily confirmed that the Happy Mask Salesman is a Sheikah. Or that the Sheikah created the mask. But seeing the strong resemblance between the Fused Shadow, and Majora's mask, and the Sheikah Emblem on the back of the fused Shadow, it's likely that the Sheikah played some role in Majora's Mask.
 

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It's not necessarily confirmed that the Happy Mask Salesman is a Sheikah. Or that the Sheikah created the mask. But seeing the strong resemblance between the Fused Shadow, and Majora's mask, and the Sheikah Emblem on the back of the fused Shadow, it's likely that the Sheikah played some role in Majora's Mask.
The only hint we have of the Mask Salesman is a Sheikah is the fact he has red eyes which are exclusive to the Sheikah.
 

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Perhaps.......the Mask Salesman was one of the Sheikah who created the Mask. (yes I believe that the Sheikah made the Mask)
I also believe the Sheikah made the mask. I don't know if he is a Sheikah himself necessarily, but I suppose it's a possibility!
 

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The only hint we have of the Mask Salesman is a Sheikah is the fact he has red eyes which are exclusive to the Sheikah.
True, but that's where the resemblance seems to end. All the Sheikah leading up to Breath of the Wild only had silver/white hair, I believe. It's also a possibility that The Mask Salesman's eyes are red due to the fact he's immensely angry whenever we do get to see his eyes.
 

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It's also a possibility that The Mask Salesman's eyes are red due to the fact he's immensely angry whenever we do get to see his eyes.
That sounds both impressive and hilarious. I just realized I cant double post, how do I delete?
 
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Anyone else always considered the Happy Mask Salesman a likable guy? Its like he's uneasily strange but at the same time he's a heart warming person. He takes you by storm.
 

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Perhaps.......the Mask Salesman was one of the Sheikah who created the Mask. (yes I believe that the Sheikah made the Mask)
Just throwin it out there but just because Sheikah is a tribe in the Zelda universe doesn't mean that the ancient tribe mentioned in MM is one and the same, not everything has to be tied up to each other
 

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Just throwin it out there but just because Sheikah is a tribe in the Zelda universe doesn't mean that the ancient tribe mentioned in MM is one and the same, not everything has to be tied up to each other
They are the only tribes we know (besides the Twili) that know Dark Magic. You can see it clearly in the Lens of Truth (sounds a bit funny heh) as well as the Shadow Temple.
 
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They are the only tribes we know (besides the Twili) that know Dark Magic. You can see it clearly in the Lens of Truth (sounds a bit funny heh) as well as the Shadow Temple.
Well, it's not too far out there to assume this is another tribe we've yet to hear of. After all, you have Skyward Sword and the Demon Tribe as an example. And the Wind Tribe. And the Dark Tribe. And the ancient barbarian tribe BotW talks about. And the Zuna tribe... The list goes on.
 

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They are the only tribes we know (besides the Twili) that know Dark Magic. You can see it clearly in the Lens of Truth (sounds a bit funny heh) as well as the Shadow Temple.
In addition to that, the Sheikah symbol has three triangles above the eye, and Majora's Mask has three triangles above its eyes as well. It's obviously completely unconfirmed (obviously the mask doesn't have the teardrop symbol), but it's not an unrealistic theory.
 

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In addition to that, the Sheikah symbol has three triangles above the eye, and Majora's Mask has three triangles above its eyes as well. It's obviously completely unconfirmed (obviously the mask doesn't have the teardrop symbol), but it's not an unrealistic theory.
wow, I never noticed that. Very good point
 

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I bet Happy Mask Salesman wanted to utilize the power in the mask, but knew if he put it on it would over-power him. He probably wanted to figure out how to use Majora's power to do his bidding without sacrificing his mind.
 

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Also, something I thought was interesting.



In concept art, Midna wore a mask that strongly reminds me of the Moon or the Mirror Shield in Majora's Mask.
Holy crap, I love that design, I wish they went with that instead.
 

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Man I missed out on the lore of Majora's Mask talk! There are a lot of great points on not only the mask, but the happy mask salesman himself. That guy is truly the most mysterious part of it all. Also, I agree the guy could have been Shiekah.

I love the idea of the salesman lying about the evil is out on the mask...
 

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Man I missed out on the lore of Majora's Mask talk! There are a lot of great points on not only the mask, but the happy mask salesman himself. That guy is truly the most mysterious part of it all. Also, I agree the guy could have been Shiekah.

I love the idea of the salesman lying about the evil is out on the mask...
Honestly I can see why the Happy Mask Salesman is Chuggaaconroy's favorite Zelda character. :)
 

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Another thing I considered interesting.

In Skull Kid's concept art, his face looks so off. Even more than in-game. It almost strikes me as fake, to be honest.
Also, do you think it's possible Skull Kid's moveset could incorporate the horn from Twilight Princess in some fashion?
 

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Also, do you think it's possible Skull Kid's moveset could incorporate the horn from Twilight Princess in some fashion?
I think it's possible that he blows it to summon a puppet. It could also be part of a taunt or victory animation. I could see a taunt where he pulls out one of three musical instruments: an ocarina, the pipes, or a flute. Maybe randomly selected like Pac-Man's taunt?
 

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I think it's possible that he blows it to summon a puppet. It could also be part of a taunt or victory animation. I could see a taunt where he pulls out one of three musical instruments: an ocarina, the pipes, or a flute. Maybe randomly selected like Pac-Man's taunt?
Make it a long taunt like Bayo's so he can play Saria's song in full on whatever one he pulls out.
 

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This is very off topic, but imagine how surreal it will be to have Smash Ultimate in our hands and to be able to play it when it comes out, I haven't been this hyped for a game since BOTW.
 
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This is very off topic, but imagine how surreal it will be to have Smash Ultimate in our hands and to be able to play it when it comes out, I haven't been this hyped for a game since BOTW.
I know exactly what you mean. I pre-ordered Breath of the Wild, and got it the day it came out. 12:30 AM. It was amazing and so surreal to have held not only the switch, but breath of the wild in my hands for the first time.

Smash Bros. Ultimate is going to have the same sensation, or even better for me. I pre-ordered it the day it was available for pre-orders.

Probably wishful thinking, but if the Trinen thing is anything to go by, we can expect it sometime later today seeing as yesterday was the third day, and now we're on the 'Dawn of a new day'.
But if we're going with what mimique has said (Yes, I know he's not a leaker, just a speculator. An extremely accurate speculator at that.) we can expect the direct to be announced tomorrow.
 

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Hello guy's I've got some bottom of the barrel Skull Kid evidence
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fb/5f/2a/fb5f2af3a67ae49348c494028fd4c64a.png
So Fierce Deity Link in smash 4's shield has the colors of Majora Mask
however
https://i.redd.it/4j6jnvz3jy311.png
it was changed to a teal colored shield, thus Skull Kid.....
... Listen I did say it was bottom of the barrel, it is kind of lame how his fierce deity alt looks now, I really hope they replace it with how it looks in BOTW by the time Smash comes out.
 
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