Masked Marauders - Skull Kid For Smash! Night of the Last Day.

[Nazyrus]

lol mimique is not a leaker, i'm part of his discord. The only big thing going on there is the blog theory, which i'm part of, and just our general predictions and speculations like regular people. I understand back then mimique might have looked like a possible leaker, but he isn't lol. He even made a poll to get the general conclusion of our most expect, least wanted characters, etc. His objective reasons for his predictions are quite good and done by research, so if some of them come true it's probably because they initially made a lot of sense, with the hints and such we've gotten so far.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

i just asked hes not a leaker

its just a prediction would love it to happen though

the in 3 days is a safe bet catergory though

 

[Pillsbury_Soyboy]

It really is unclear if they're a leaker in disguise or what, but their guesses have been really great thus far. I'm not sure if they've ever said something this blatant before though?

He said "CHROM" a few hours before the direct in August, though I wouldn't say that's anywhere near as blatant as this
Edit: All righty, so he's not a leaker. Just really damn good at predicting, which I'll still take as a point in Skull Kid's favor

 

[The Legendary Beast]

Mimique also said Isabelle would be a semi clone back in June I believe? They did change their opinion to her being an echo though. They were initially right though. Hope their luck with predictions bodes well for Skull Kid.

 

[JoyStar]

Given this is a Skull Kid thread, I got to thinking—apparently, "Skull Kid" is basically a group name so there are multiple Skull Kids, though the one from MM is the one we all think of when we hear the name.

So just now I started wondering—if Skull Kid is supposed a group/species name, what "proper name" might our impish friend in particular have?

I was thinking at first some Japanese name starting with an S (like "Sakkaku" which is "illusion" in Japanese but I thought that sounded odd), though when looking up Japanese folklore I found about these creatures called Tengu, which were impish bird-like creatures that played tricks on people which is similar in ways to Skull Kid.

 

[Reila]

I believe the OoT and Majora's Mask are one and the same since he seem to recognize Link at the beginning of Majora's Mask. He also says something about Link's smell reminding him of the Kokiri kid, a.k.a. Saria.

I would like to believe the TP one is also the same Skull Kid, but there is no evidence supporting that. I just think it would be cool to have both the Hero of Time and the good, old Skull Kid in the same game again, both helping (in their own ways) the Hero of Twilight.

As for the name, I have no idea.

 

[JoyStar]

I believe the OoT and Majora's Mask are one and the same since he seem to recognize Link at the beginning of Majora's Mask. He also says something about Link's smell reminding him of the Kokiri kid, a.k.a. Saria.

I would like to believe the TP one is also the same Skull Kid, but there is no evidence supporting that. I just think it would be cool to have both the Hero of Time and the good, old Skull Kid in the same game again, both helping (in their own ways) the Hero of Twilight.

As for the name, I have no idea.

Forgot to mention that I figured OOT and MM Skull Kid were the same, I just mentioned MM because a lot of times Skull Kid is envisioned with the mask, incuding in Smash Bros itself in the past. Also I headcanon that the Skull Kid in TP is either a. the same one and he's basically immortal, or b. a descendant of the Skull Kid from OOT-MM.

 

[AnOkayDM]

I believe the OoT and Majora's Mask are one and the same since he seem to recognize Link at the beginning of Majora's Mask. He also says something about Link's smell reminding him of the Kokiri kid, a.k.a. Saria.

I would like to believe the TP one is also the same Skull Kid, but there is no evidence supporting that. I just think it would be cool to have both the Hero of Time and the good, old Skull Kid in the same game again, both helping (in their own ways) the Hero of Twilight.

As for the name, I have no idea.

The kid he's referring to is Link, since Link is the one who taught him Saria's Song. The fact that he still knows it in TP is what makes me believe it's the same one there as well.

I also want to believe that it's the same Skull Kid, because it's so much more touching that way. His old friend passed away and he was alone, so he started making puppets to keep him company. Then one day a wolf, who probably reminded him of his old friend Link, stumbled into his woods, and he decided to have some fun with him. Eventually the wolf came back, looking almost exactly like his old buddy. I just wonder what he did after the events of Twilight Princess...maybe he keeps helping future Links.

 

[All Hail Me]

Unrelated from the current topic but I don't think sakurai is a cruel person, all these signs building up to a possible skull kid reveal in smash, but then for him to not be in the game is pretty cruel. If Skull kid is an assist, or a boss, or part of a final smash, I'm reasonably sure they would've shown him off at some point during e3 or the smash direct. The only reason I see for withholding information on young link such as his final smash would be to reveal with during a skull kid trailer. If not, why not just reveal his final smash during e3?

I don't know, but I'm decently sure Sakurai would've deconfirmed him as a fighter by now if he wasn't in the game, the same reason he showed off characters like Waluigi and Ashley as non playables so early so as not to get people's hopes up.

I said this previously and completely agree, he knows smash fans are insane, but he doesnt want to lead along or disappoint. He would’ve smashed all hopes like he did with waluigi and shovel knight at the start

 

[Pillsbury_Soyboy]

I said this previously and completely agree, he knows smash fans are insane, but he doesnt want to lead along or disappoint. He would’ve smashed all hopes like he did with waluigi and shovel knight at the start

As someone who was a part of the Ridley hype train for Smash 4, I can't imagine Sakurai would make the same mistake twice. I still think Skull Kid's going to be revealed at some point before launch, most likely this month

 

[GoodGrief741]

Given this is a Skull Kid thread, I got to thinking—apparently, "Skull Kid" is basically a group name so there are multiple Skull Kids, though the one from MM is the one we all think of when we hear the name.

So just now I started wondering—if Skull Kid is supposed a group/species name, what "proper name" might our impish friend in particular have?

I was thinking at first some Japanese name starting with an S (like "Sakkaku" which is "illusion" in Japanese but I thought that sounded odd), though when looking up Japanese folklore I found about these creatures called Tengu, which were impish bird-like creatures that played tricks on people which is similar in ways to Skull Kid.

I call him Bob.

 

[Luigifan18]

I said this previously and completely agree, he knows smash fans are insane, but he doesnt want to lead along or disappoint. He would’ve smashed all hopes like he did with waluigi and shovel knight at the start

You forgot Bomberman and Krystal. (And Ashley, but I personally don't care as much for her. (Cackletta is cooler. (Fight me.)))

 

[Penroze]

[signing large, stereotypically evil-looking contract]
I hereby give full support to Skull Kid for Ultimate.

 

[Substitute]

does this person have cred?

https://twitter.com/MimiqueVEVO/status/1048674247801851904

 

[ActualGarbage]

does this person have cred?

https://twitter.com/MimiqueVEVO/status/1048674247801851904

He's just really good at guessing things and guessed a lot right. He's not a leaker.

 

[GoodGrief741]

does this person have cred?

https://twitter.com/MimiqueVEVO/status/1048674247801851904

He’s never claimed to be a leaker, just a really good guesser. He has gotten Ridley, K. Rool and Chrom, but he also predicted Isaac for the September Direct, and that didn’t happen.

 

[NintenRob]

The curious thing about our Skull Kid, is that he doesn't seem to be ordinary woodland creature. Heck it's old enough to be part of legends in Termina. Remember Grandma's storybook. Skull Kid is very old, it's one of the key reasons alongside Saria's Song it's believed to be in TP and why we could even see it another game quite easily if they wanted to.

 

[AnOkayDM]

I always got the impression that Skull Kids are undead. I mean, an adult who gets lost in the forest becomes a Stalfos, and a Skull Kid is created when a Kokiri gets lost in the forest, so it would make sense if they were also undead. That could easily explain him being around a hundred years later.

 

[NineS]

The curious thing about our Skull Kid, is that he doesn't seem to be ordinary woodland creature. Heck it's old enough to be part of legends in Termina. Remember Grandma's storybook. Skull Kid is very old, it's one of the key reasons alongside Saria's Song it's believed to be in TP and why we could even see it another game quite easily if they wanted to.

The tricky thing about Majora's mask, though. I don't know if this a recent retcon thing, or old news, but turns out Termina isn't real. It was a world created by Majora's mask made with Skull Kid's own memories combined with it's dark magic, meaning it didn't exist before Skull Kid stole the Mask, and it no longer existed sometime after the spirit in the mask was supposedly killed. But, it doesn't add up, since Skull Kid clearly seems at home in Termina, as well as the fact he clearly seems to be friends with the giants. This would mean the Giants, Gyorg, Twinmold, etc. all exist somewhere in Hyrule, and Skull Kid did make friends with the Hylian giants. It would also mean Tingle exists, or exists, in the real Hyrule and Skull Kid has seen him at least once, as well as Skull Kid knowing of Twinrova

Also, I'm with the theory that TP Skull Kid is the same as OoT/MM Skull Kid. As for why he looks so different... Maybe wearing Majora's mask passed on some of it's magic onto Skull Kid, and caused physical changes over time? His eyes strongly remind me of Majora's Mask and the Moon's.

 

[Demonfunds]

The tricky thing about Majora's mask, though. I don't know if this a recent retcon thing, or old news, but turns out Termina isn't real. It was a world created by Majora's mask made with Skull Kid's own memories combined with it's dark magic, meaning it didn't exist before Skull Kid stole the Mask, and it no longer existed sometime after the spirit in the mask was supposedly killed.
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I'm sorry, but I really do hate that explanation, why couldn't they have said that it was a parallel universe to Hyrule, like multiverse theory.

Also, I'm with the theory that TP Skull Kid is the same as OoT/MM Skull Kid. As for why he looks so different... Maybe wearing Majora's mask passed on some of it's magic onto Skull Kid, and caused physical changes over time? His eyes strongly remind me of Majora's Mask and the Moon's.

I like that explanation for why he might appear different in TP, I just chopped it up to art style in my head, I really do like what you said, he did seem to have more abilities in TP than OOT, like teleporting with the leafs(which btw has to be his upb) bringing dolls to life etc.

 

[NineS]

I'm sorry, but I really do hate that explanation, why couldn't they have said that it was a parallel universe to Hyrule, like multiverse theory.

I know, I couldn't stand that explanation either. It just doesn't make sense. My best guess is that the original plan was that it was an entirely parallel universe that had existed before Skull Kid acquired the mask, but they decided to retcon that idea and change it to "Nope, doesn't exist. It's just some world made by the Mask and Skull Kid."

They said it was created by the mask in some interview when they were asked if we could expect to see Termina any time soon, and the said we wouldn't because it wasn't real, as it stopped existing as soon as Link left Termina. Who knows, they could retcon the retcon and go back to the original plan.
Still, this reminds me of that "Miiting" thing Nintendo did on Miiverse with the Happy Mask Salesman. He said we should expect him to appear in another game at some point in the future... It clearly wasn't Breath of the Wild, so I guess hopes up for another future Zelda game if they've been planning that far back.

Also, if we're taking that Bill Trinen thing seriously,

 

[Demonfunds]

Nintendo did on Miiverse with the Happy Mask Salesman. He said we should expect him to appear in another game at some point in the future... It clearly wasn't Breath of the Wild, so I guess hopes up for another future Zelda game if they've been planning that far back.

Is it possible they were referring to MM3D?

 

[NineS]

Is it possible they were referring to MM3D?

Unlikely, since everyone knew MM3D was coming out at the time. After all, the Miiting was to promote it.

If I remember, it was either Miyamoto or Aonuma posing as the Happy Mask Salesman. He was kind of cryptic, but safe to say he hadn't meant MM3D.

Worst case scenario, he was in Breath of the Wild. Technically. As Kilton.
Best case scenario, he plays a key role in a future Zelda game, possibly in some spiritual sequel to Majora's mask.

 

[Demonfunds]

Unlikely, since everyone knew MM3D was coming out at the time. After all, the Miiting was to promote it.

If I remember, it was either Miyamoto or Aonuma posing as the Happy Mask Salesman. He was kind of cryptic, but safe to say he hadn't meant MM3D.

Worst case scenario, he was in Breath of the Wild. Technically. As Kilton.
Best case scenario, he plays a key role in a future Zelda game, possibly in some spiritual sequel to Majora's mask.

Hmmm I remember something about Aonuma saying something about a multiplayer Zelda game using the BOTW engine was beign worked on, what if the game has like 3 or four links and the mask sales man can sell you different masks and some puzzles could only be solved with like lets say goron link and deku link working together with their abilities, mabye they could add in brand new transformations like rito link or korok link, playing as different races in botw's engine with other people would be tons of fun.

 

[NineS]

Hmmm I remember something about Aonuma saying something about a multiplayer Zelda game using the BOTW engine was beign worked on, what if the game has like 3 or four links and the mask sales man can sell you different masks and some puzzles could only be solved with like lets say goron link and deku link working together with their abilities, mabye they could add in brand new transformations like rito link or korok link, playing as different races in botw's engine with other people would be tons of fun.

So something like Triforce Heroes, but with Masks, and the Botw Engine with Majora's mask-based themes? I'd play that. I doubt it'll happen, but I'll throw any of my money Nintendo's way if that happens. But unless they develop the next Zelda game like they did Majora's mask, just making it a mod of Breath of the Wild so massive that it becomes it's own game, safe to say we have a few years until then. Whatever next Zelda thing has the Happy Mask Salesman, though, safe to say he'll still have some new handy masks to hand out.

 

[ActualGarbage]

Hmmm I remember something about Aonuma saying something about a multiplayer Zelda game using the BOTW engine was beign worked on, what if the game has like 3 or four links and the mask sales man can sell you different masks and some puzzles could only be solved with like lets say goron link and deku link working together with their abilities, mabye they could add in brand new transformations like rito link or korok link, playing as different races in botw's engine with other people would be tons of fun.

A multiplayer BOTW game sounds like it would be an absolute disaster and I want to play it NOW.

 

[NintenRob]

I thought the whole "it was created by the mask" thing was already retconned away in a recent book.


Honestly, sometimes I think the devs about as much as we do when it comes to Zelda facts. Hyrule Hystoria is even written as if it's one guy speculating.

 

[NineS]

I thought the whole "it was created by the mask" thing was already retconned away in a recent book.


Honestly, sometimes I think the devs about as much as we do when it comes to Zelda facts. Hyrule Hystoria is even written as if it's one guy speculating.

I hope it was retconned. Again. It would open up the window to so many more possibilities, especially in Termina.

Of course, if Termina makes a comeback, I'd want Majora's mask to make a comeback too. Whether it's in a Prequel, a Sequel, or in the Adult or Fallen timeline. Wishful thinking, but a guy can dream.

 

[0007]

Nintendo cares far more about making each Zelda game a fun and interesting experience than any overarching lore, for better or worse.

 

[NineS]

Nintendo cares far more about making each Zelda game a fun and interesting experience than any overarching lore, for better or worse.

Oh, definitely. Zelda is definitely a fun/gameplay first, plot and lore second ordeal. Still, doesn't mean they don't pay any attention to detail when it comes to lore. There's usually a huge attention to detail for that kind of stuff... Except in the multiplayer or spinoff based games, like Triforce Heroes.

 

[AnOkayDM]

I thought the whole "it was created by the mask" thing was already retconned away in a recent book.

Nope, the most recent information is from the Hyrule Encyclopedia, which is where that comes from. It's complete nonsense though. Is it likelier that the four giants exist in Hyrule somewhere, never having been seen or mentioned; that the Skull Kid somehow knows about clocks and other technology that doesn't exist in Hyrule; that the Skull Kid himself met every Hyrulean person who has a Termina double despite never having left the forest; or does it make more sense that Termina is a parallel world similar to Lorule, with duplicates of Hyrulean people and its own history and lore that they just stumbled into?

It all smacks of "**** you, we don't want to make another Majora's Mask game and here's the bull**** reason we can't."

 

[fogbadge]

so what are the most common suggestions for his skull kid's special move? moves from the three majora's battles id imagine or from hyrule warriors recently

has anyone suggested moves from the four bosses from MM? like ghot's thunder bean from neutral special, odwala's spinning attack for a side special, gyorg's leap for an up special and burrowing underground like twinmold for a down special

 

[AnOkayDM]

Well, his up special would probably be a teleport like the one from TP. I think the Majora tendrils would be best served as his Smash attacks, and maybe a grab/tether recovery. Maybe a puppet summon for one of his specials.

I've also always been a fan of the idea of him using the blowpipe Skull Kids use in OoT, but I'm not sure if it really has a place. I just like the image of him pushing up the mask to reveal his face and shooting a dart. You could even charge it to fire three darts like I believe they do in OoT! And Link's shield is ineffective against those darts too, so maybe there could be something like that. I dunno if they'd use something that mundane for him though, when he has the mask's powers to draw on.

 

[_sneaK]

so what are the most common suggestions for his skull kid's special move? moves from the three majora's battles id imagine or from hyrule warriors recently

has anyone suggested moves from the four bosses from MM? like ghot's thunder bean from neutral special, odwala's spinning attack for a side special, gyorg's leap for an up special and burrowing underground like twinmold for a down special

I think as far as special attacks go, he might use Tael and Tatl to zoom around like Rosalina, or his neutral special acting like Jigglypuffs sing

 

[UserKev]

I totally dig Skull Kid using Majora's tendrils as a recovery. We'll have to agree to disagree with heavy uses of Teal and Tatl tho. I don't know. I just can't stand them in the use of combat.

 

[AnOkayDM]

I'm not opposed to him using the fairies, but I think Sakurai being who he is, he would want to make a moveset that another game hadn't used already.

 

[_sneaK]

In a hypothetical situation, if skull kid was a echo who do you think he'd be based upon

 

[UserKev]

In a hypothetical situation, if skull kid was a echo who do you think he'd be based upon

I like the idea of Skull Kid being an echo of Mewtwo. God, just not Zelda.

 

[AnOkayDM]

In a hypothetical situation, if skull kid was a echo who do you think he'd be based upon

Kind of a weird pull here, but Lucas. Rope snake can be a tendril. PK Thunder can be the fairies. Change some of the other effects to dark, and make PK Starstorm one giant moon projectile instead. Not great, but acceptable.

 

[Dr Bones]

I like the idea of Skull Kid being an echo of Mewtwo. God, just not Zelda.

I've actually always thought of this