Marth Team Guide Version 1.0

[Snype]

Hi, I may be new on smash boards but I have a good amount of practice in teams with alot of characters, so I am starting a team thread for Marth. What I hope is going to be happening is this is like the Marth matchup's where I have A character and we put in if they should be used or not and also help if you have one in your team.

First is.....
Zelda

So you guys have any input, please put it in and in my times of Smash I think Zelda can be good mainly on the person you play with sometimes they may help you deal with prjectiles while other times you have a nice helpful ally in sweetspotting.

 

[∫unk]

Maybe you should start with high/top tier characters?

Zelda is not a common character... nor a very good one.

 

[Snype]

OK, then how about we leave Zelda for later and go to Snake

Now as a player I don't know too much about him but I know he can help you recover easily and he is good for getting foes in the air for you to F-air or D-air.

 

[TreK]

Marth's glide toss is great, you could use his nades to move around the stage and trap people with it too.
Marth's lack of killing power isn't that much of a problem with a snake to help you, that's a good thing.
You can do cool teamtraps with his dthrow.
And if you grab someone at >60%, it's basically a free KO if the snake isn't busy already

 

[takeurlife2]

Marth's glide toss is long...

fixed for accuracy, his glide toss isnt that good.

 

[Albert.]

And if you grab someone at >60%, it's basically a free KO if the snake isn't busy already

please explain LOL

 

[Saltix]

please explain LOL

Fsmash
10Fsmashes

 

[TreK]

fixed for accuracy, his glide toss isnt that good.

If you use it right, it is. The thing you must remember is that if you're saying "his glide toss is bad", you're doing it wrong and should say "his glide tosses are good" instead. The backward one's better at moving around the stage and putting pressure than anything, so you can up/down toss the nades to trap people ; and the foward one or JCTs (which are faster with marth) can combo into stuff (not really with nades) or space yourself without going at the other side of the stage. So yes, they are good (you're talking to a diddy main, remember ? 8D)

edit -> dun quote my last post, I was doing it wrong =O

 

[BarDulL]

snake is a really bad team mate for marth.

sword + nades + teams = oh gawd

 

[Punishment Divine]

snake is a really bad team mate for marth.

sword + nades + teams = oh gawd

Please tell me you're kidding Bardull o.o

Snake is one of my favorite teammates. Usually I'll get my opponent to kill range and proceed to double team the other one, then when the other guy approaches they'll eat a utilt.

Keep an eye out for explosives, though, they can help and hurt you. The Snake I team with sometimes uses a lot of C4 so I make sure to keep an eye out. Also, if you pick a nade up in the confusion, it's fun to shield and hold it because the other team usually won't know/realize you have one and attack into it. For the lulz holding a nade in shield+DS OoS=LOLLLLLL

 

[BarDulL]

Please tell me you're kidding Bardull o.o

Snake is one of my favorite teammates. Usually I'll get my opponent to kill range and proceed to double team the other one, then when the other guy approaches they'll eat a utilt.

Keep an eye out for explosives, though, they can help and hurt you. The Snake I team with sometimes uses a lot of C4 so I make sure to keep an eye out. Also, if you pick a nade up in the confusion, it's fun to shield and hold it because the other team usually won't know/realize you have one and attack into it. For the lulz holding a nade in shield+DS OoS=LOLLLLLL

i'm sure good snakes are great in teams, but the snakes in socal tend to forget about "teams" and play more of a "singles" game, in that they pull out nades, lay mines, and pop c4 on a whim without considering where their team mate is half the time, and generally i'm too busy to pay attention to where they are setting their mines while i am dealing with someone off stage to know any better when i finally come across one.

so, more or less, i've never had a good experience teaming with a snake. something bad always happens. but i'm sure a snake who isn't completely on auto-pilot would have the brains enough to not hurt me so **** much and actually play "doubles" the way doubles should be played...but i can't really say, since i've never seen it happen.

edit: to be fair, we have a lot of players that are really good at gimping our snake players (which kind of makes sense as to why we don't have many great snake players around here...), so it might be that our snakes are simply forced to play in a "singles" manner because that's the only way they know how to deal with not getting gimped so much. i wish i knew for sure :/

 

[∫unk]

watch from 1:50- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjNLCydpgjc&feature=channel_page

this is what happens when you team with a socal snake

player 2 defeated share stock player 2 defeated

 

[Remzi]

watch from 1:50- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjNLCydpgjc&feature=channel_page

this is what happens when you team with a socal snake

player 2 defeated share stock player 2 defeated

lmfao

i get so pissed at my partner when that **** happens

 

[Megavitamins]

Snake is my favorite partner with as Marth. SInce Snake is really good at two vs one, it works really well if the Snake is in the front with Marth behind him living as long as possible and giving support. Also if you get an opponent stuck between them f-tilt -> fair -> f-tilt is godlike xD. I don't really have any other input than that, only just hide behind Snake and it works really well.

 

[Punishment Divine]

watch from 1:50- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjNLCydpgjc&feature=channel_page

this is what happens when you team with a socal snake

player 2 defeated share stock player 2 defeated

I lol'd pretty hard

I think Snake might be the best partner for Marth

 

[BacklashMarth]

On a scale from 1 to 10, snake is a fail. The snake has to be more self aware of his annoyingness and not use nades and stuff so much (P.S. snake w/o nades = cake). Its also nice if snake wouldnt ftilt/utilt you when u are at kill percents >.>. I mean at lest you can see other kill moves coming like an ike fsmash or a warlock punch.

 

[Snype]

Well in teams you need to watch your partner and the enemy, as long as you both can cover problems, watch out for each other, and work well together it is a good team.

 

[feardragon64]

Snake is nice as a partner on stages where you guys aren't totally cramped, like battlefield. I think he actually can be a pretty good partner on PK1. All and all though, there are better partners. =\ That's just what I figure since my doubles experience doesn't go so well with Marth.

 

[Snype]

Ok next is

Now to be honest I never tried a team with Wolf so what do you guys think.

 

[Reizilla]

Are you picking characters out of a hat? Next should be MK, or Falco, or Wario, or someone like that.

I've had a bit of experience playing with Wolf, but since I'm not any good really and the Wolf probably isn't either, it doesn't matter.

 

[Doomblaze]

please do the character in some kind of tier order (preferred) or at least characters that are played the most
MK, falco, wario, D3, G@W

Its hard for the wolf to spam lasers and Fsmash, not a particularily good teammate, although he can kill A Lot easier than you can with his D smash. His good grabs throw them into the ground which is nice
He zones with his Bair like we do with our Fair, dunno if thats good or bad

 

[Tari]

Probably should discuss the characters in order of tier, Metaknight should have been first, then moved down the tier list.

Hmm.. I've never played doubles competitively, mainly because the only partner I have would be my brother, and that's because him and I are literally equal in skill level. Either way, we play friendly doubles, and his main his Snake. Personally since I know his play style and play him a lot, we kinda know how the both of us would move and can dodge getting hit by each other pretty well. Unless he pulls off a c4 detonation while I'm on it. All in all, with my little experience, Snake seems to be the best partner I've had.

As for Wolf, well.. Never really "doubled" with a Wolf player. The only time I've "teamed" up with a Wolf, is when my friends and I were playing free-for-alls, and the two of us decided to gang up on our two other friends. He lasered me a lot.. and fsmashed me on several occasions.

 

[Pr0phetic]

I agree with the process of going through the tier list, and whne DeDeDe comes up I'll brag about how awesome he is in teams, especially with Marth

 

[ViCTORiOUSViC]

i agree also
yea D3 is good in teams, and so is MK with Marth

 

[Snype]

OK thanks for the advice and my choices for the characters were some I think need some advice MK seems too easy to talk about IMO.

 

[Sake-Hato]

IMO Meta and marth is a great team..you guys should control air easier, gimping,and they both have great ground game..cons would be there both light and would get early deaths if not DI right..IMO

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

I think a good team is one where one person can rack damage and the other person can stock/ get kills. Marth is meh in both departments so he fails in teams.

 

[PsychoNess]

Zero Suit. My friend and I did some teams yesterday. Stun to tipper was cool.

 

[Zero Hour]

What about lucas, my friend and I did some team matches, i used marth he used lucas. Basicaly all we had to do is stay together while lucas gimped with projectals and also used his attacks to protect my from some projectiles. plus if he uses PK thunder to gimp off stage it sets marth up for a fairly easy kill. plus down throw to lucas usmash was nice.

 

[Doomblaze]

And team attack was off.
Should we let this thread die? Its not going anywhere.

 

[/~Dogma~\]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQILD4vDB_Q

i no but its just for fun