No, I'm pretty much accusing you of intentional slander and prejudice in order to obtain information that would help mafia instead of town. The last time I checked, "normal Mafia game sequence of events" don't involve treating one player like **** and patting everyone who was kicking said player's *** a gold star.
Oh right, I forgot that pretense that I'm supposed to give a player the benefit of the doubt when they've done nothing but played blatantly scummy throughout the entire game.
Oh right, I'm not.
Wait a second, I'd love to hear your own sequence of events! What were you going to do? Let him whine and then lynch him, causing a town lynch? Exactly. This isn't a time to be nice, I'm not supposed to be "kind and forgiving" of someone who's playing scummy! It's really an absurd argument to make, and you're falling for Tery's initial AtE reactions.
These events do nothing more than break players who are trying to make a point
So what point was Tery trying to make again? "I'm bad at this, lynch me, I feel so useless, I'm so bad, lynch me, I'm gonna get lynched, I'm playing terrible". Is there a point to this rambling? Of course not! It's necessary to dig deeper and deeper until they BREAK because then you get to the TRUTH; the TRUTH being that town was SAVED by this action.
It is a tactic that is used by mafia and is often disguised as a "pressure play" when in reality they are crossing the line in order to disrupt the player and make them give up on the game. My previous comment indicated to me that your play was more mafia brand than town friendly.
Lol? I'm not supposed to pressure people as a member of the town? What is "crossing the line" exactly? ***** please, there is no such thing as "crossing the line" until you get modkilled. In DGames Mafia (Avril Remix), Omni made a point to tell me how god awful I was playing at every turn. Am I supposed to turn around and say "Woah! That's scummy, because you aren't allowing me to play my best effort! And that's mean!"
No, you're supposed to break people down for the truth. How the hell else are you supposed to find mafia? Wait till they say something stupid? Of course not. To me, you're acting like I'm scummy for forcing the town to step back, evaluate the situation, get to the FACTS, and move ON.
I also don't want to hear from someone that my argument is invalid due to ex-post facto reasoning when they use a hypothetical situation as a replacement, "Imagine if I had not stepped in and informed..." If I recall correctly, Terywj was at L-2 along with UberMario. However if you look at the following people who were not voting: Meta-Kirby, Terywj, Acrostic from X1's Post #389 then this situation is simply not likely. I would argue that you relying on a hypothetical example, a hypothetical example that isn't even probable is a far weaker basis than the actual posts that I have mentioned in the past.
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My hypothetical situation would have come true, dude. L-2 is a grave situation as well, especially on Day 1. I would have voted Tery, then it's a matter of another individual switching their vote.
By the way, using large words and legal terms does not validate your argument. If anything, it throws a complex unneccesary loop into understanding what you are actually trying to say.
Finally you have not explained how my post centers on the assumption that you need to continue with focusing on Terywj behavior with quotations and explanations because my post never rested on that assumption. Attempting to claim that it rests on assumptions that it does not is a classical move to break down arguments for people who are not confident in their own material. My argument rests on the notion that scum are interested in finding the doctor-role among town and once they have obtained this information, then they will be satisfied and ready to perform a night kill. Therefore there is no longer any need to pressure other players as they don't need a lynch and they can pretty much lay-off and attempt to pretend to be town for the rest of the day.
So are you arguing that claiming is not an integral part of the process and does not warrant action before a lynch? You're attempting to say that I'm not supposed to ask someone to claim if they are acting scummy, because that's just not right? I'm supposed to allow non-confident players the benefit of the doubt?
No, no no no no no . This is how scum slips through your hands! You look at a weakling, you say "aww, how cute, i bet he won't bite!", you turn your head, and they BITE YOUR FACE OFF. This was my OWN newbie strategy when I was playing my first game (Scum Wars Mafia) and it benefited me greatly. I have the experience which tells me that it's a common tactic, and you have the ignorance to claim that pressuring, claiming, and deceitful play is not an integral part of the game; however, it is, and that's where your argument falls to pieces.
I give you credit for the L-1 situation, however you gave rise to the idea and the support of those who were eager to lynch Terywj. I agree that, "When something happens, you have to roll with it" which is why we are attempting using Terry's claim to source out scum possibilities. I simply suspect you and Glyph as being mafia for having scummish behavior and am also replying to the fact that you regarded me as being "wishy-washy" if I recall correctly when I definitely received and still have major scum vibes off of you at the moment.
Let's evaluate the situation closer here:
Let's pretend that I am scum. For what purpose do I have attempting to save Tery, who, (if I am ACTUALLY scum) I
know is a town member? Why would I not simply capitalize on Tery's meekness and unconfidence and roll with the fact that he's basically giving up, ensuring at least one, probably two town deaths at the start of D2? Especially in a newbie game, I would be more confident to do this on my own accord, because the majority of members have yet to be exposed to a mislynch scenario, to which I would simply say "this is a part of the game, deal with it" in a much kinder fashion on the start of D2, allowing me the option to effectively WRITE OFF the fact that I got away with 1-2 town deaths on the first day.
See where you argument falls apart? You're blaming my actions for breaking down a member and releasing information to scum. Okay? As scum, I would MUCH RATHER have 2 town deaths than information that single player in the game has a power role (even though I already know the role exists in the game, unlike many games). As scum, I would not actively seek out to get information out of Tery to prevent a mislynch, I would rather allow it to happen, then write it off as a casual newbie mistake.
Use logic, please. My actions and scum's intent do not align, and you have no pursued the psychological aspects, but allowed another player's incompetence to electrify your heart and exaggerate what any scum member might have received from our pursuit of the truth.
![Terywj [태리]](/data/avatars/l/71/71007.jpg?1555906021){kind=avatar}
) so I'm pretty sure I can read from it and answer the role claiming question.
