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Mario Boards: General Discussion
- Thread starter SkylerOcon
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Play whoever's the best character now, SKidd.
The only reason to drop Mario is if you're:
A.) No longer having fun using Mario. He's boring to you or something.
B.) You want to win.
I doubt it's A. If it's B, then use the best character. There's literally no point in doing anything else.
The only reason to drop Mario is if you're:
A.) No longer having fun using Mario. He's boring to you or something.
B.) You want to win.
I doubt it's A. If it's B, then use the best character. There's literally no point in doing anything else.
KassandraNova
Smash Master
Now that Mk's banned...I hear that Mario is just going to be FABULOUS! <3
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I don't ever recall changing. I just kinda forgot to stop by here since League of Legends became the new source of competitive gaming for me, but it's not like I'm gone or anything.I like the new A2. He makes more sense XD. Also something with Marth is using fair instead of bair but that's no big deal. I don't know why, but I like characters that just get up in your face and although Mario is bad, he does that. That's why in SC2 I used talim (or link with great fairy sword). Although they tend to have bad range, its fun for me.
And sure you want to use aerials a lot, but the real trick to mastering Marth is learning to use his ground tools correctly. Throwing out aerials is the easy part, and to some extent you can sometimes just throw out DB here and there and profit, but in most situations you have to be very aware what purpose Marth's ground tools serve.
Cezz624
Smash Apprentice
Honestly, now that MetaKnight is banned, I feel sort of sorry to the people that mained him. Now all they could do is choose a new main, or quit Brawl. I wonder what will happen to tier list.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Snake has a -1 on Marth, Olimar, Pikachu, and D3. Derp.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Snake does lose those MUs, but they're still only -1 so it's not like he's shut down by them or anything.
I mean, Diddy also loses 4 MUs -1 with MK gone, he loses to Snake, Wario, Peach, and Luigi. Now, every viable character has at least a small handful of problematic MUs.
Going by Match Ups alone, Marth should be best as he only loses to 2 people, both -1, and they are Diddy and D3.
EDIT: So guys, call me crazy, but I'm starting to think Mario might be Low-Mid Tier material. Thoughts?
I mean, Diddy also loses 4 MUs -1 with MK gone, he loses to Snake, Wario, Peach, and Luigi. Now, every viable character has at least a small handful of problematic MUs.
Going by Match Ups alone, Marth should be best as he only loses to 2 people, both -1, and they are Diddy and D3.
EDIT: So guys, call me crazy, but I'm starting to think Mario might be Low-Mid Tier material. Thoughts?
Inferno3044
Smash Master
MK being banned won't change much for Mario imo. He is still bad and Marth and D3 will rise in use (at least Marth will). If we are gonna talk about a character going up, we should be talking about DK. He was always solid, but just got wrecked by nado MK. D3 I've been told is a reasonable MU assuming the infinite and small step are banned. Also DK beats Marth. Don't care what the MU chart says.
EDIT: I think D3 can Dthrow > Bdacus on Snake.
EDIT: I think D3 can Dthrow > Bdacus on Snake.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
I think Toon Link, Peach, and Pit will rise a ton. Especially Toon Link, he only has like, 5 -1 MUs in the whole game now and thats it for disadvantages.
Juushichi
sugoi ~ sugoi ~
How does it feel to be apparently extremely biased, Z?
Inferno3044
Smash Master
He doesn't care. He banned MK. He still will have to deal with Lucario which is a worse MU. I think TL is also a bad MU for Yoshi.How does it feel to be apparently extremely biased, Z?
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Lucario isnt worse, in the updated MU Chart (so when V2 comes out) you will see that MK will be moved to -3 for Yoshi, and Lucario to -2. Toon Link sucks balls for us, it's -2 or MAYBE -1, but I have oodles of TLs in my state so I'm not pleased with his rise. Id much rather have TLs then MK though. Infact, I'd rather have ANYTHING ELSE but MK. Give me all Lucarios any day over MK.
Inferno3044
Smash Master
I don't care what the MU chart says. It's a good concept, but it's very flawed (lol at Mairo being -2 vs. PT). I know for a fact that Lucario is Yoshi's worst MU. Delta said it himself and in that little phase that someone went on everyone's boards and asked for hardest MUs most, if not all, Yoshi's said Lucario.
Jimmyfosho
Smash Hero
Of course Mario specificly won't benefit for the ban but the metagame as a whole will
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DK beats Marth? lolno.
At worst the matchup is super tedious for Marth since most of his kills will happen late, and a technical error is pretty costly in this matchup when DK can get some stupid good punishes, but Marth most certainly has everything he needs to control the hell out of DK and prevent DK from doing anything. A Marth that never worries about forcing the kill should have a pretty noticeable advantage in this matchup.
Like...what the hell does DK do when Marth D-tilts? Marth's D-tilt just destroys most of DK's game, since spaced correctly, DK literally doesn't have a real counter for it, and Marth can in fact option select or react into a DB punish if DK whiffs B-air over Marth's D-tilt. And it doesn't take Marth to prevent DK from doing anything once he's above you or on the ledge. As usual with DK, play solidly, get him above you or offstage, and deny him from doing anything. He's a limited character that only can punish you hard for making a technical error. Marth's tools in fact are better than average for shutting down a character like DK when we consider how godly his D-tilt is especially in this matchup and how many options Marth has for shield pokes.
Average Marth vs Average DK on the other hand is probably more likely to fall in DK's favor, since DK's success hinges on looking for bull**** to score off of as well as hoping his opponent doesn't have a solid background on followups and traps.
Inferno3044
Smash Master
You know DK outranges Marth right? Also what kind of argument is he can punish with DB if he whiffs over Marth wiffing a dtilt? That just means the DK is bad. I've heard from both sides of this that DK wins this MU.
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It barely matters that DK outranges Marth when his main ground moves are pretty massively unsafe and aren't things he should even be throwing out randomly against Marth who barely has to think if something touches his shield or whiffs. Getting in D-tilt range isn't a problem for Marth since DK's poke game is pretty bad, and his D-tilt is a better move than anything DK has on the ground. Ike has better moves for outranging Marth than DK and he still clearly loses the matchup, and not even by a small margin.
I mean whiffed or blocked move that isn't ground pound = DB or sometimes F-smash out of shield. He's that unsafe on the ground.
I mean whiffed or blocked move that isn't ground pound = DB or sometimes F-smash out of shield. He's that unsafe on the ground.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Ask Delta again, he'll tell you MK is harder than Lucario. We used to think Lucario was our hardest for a LONG time, but as of a couple months ago, we've come to the conclusion that MK is just too gay.
Coolwhip
Smash Champion
So i've heard that vato is using mario again. Maybe it got something to do w/mk being banned now.
(Even though the bann isn't official.....yet)
Oh & bo_x7 going to tournaments again? Might get the chance to meet him.....this time
since he lives close to my grandmothers house, lol.
←Best character in the game! *Grins*
(Even though the bann isn't official.....yet)
Oh & bo_x7 going to tournaments again? Might get the chance to meet him.....this time
since he lives close to my grandmothers house, lol.
←Best character in the game! *Grins*
Jimmyfosho
Smash Hero
nah vato still is in it for the money, so he'll probably use diddy.
vato_break
Smash Master
went to a smashfest today, my mario does some cool stuff still o:
KMFBrawler
Smash Journeyman
Mario never disappoints xd.
Inferno3044
Smash Master
I played it at my friend's house last night. I actually didn't do as bad as I thought I would've at that game.
Coolwhip
Smash Champion
I'm going back to chicago baby!
I'll be on that greyhound bus ALL DAY though....
I'll be on that greyhound bus ALL DAY though....
$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$
Smash Lord
Fire, my friend tried it out and he said he don't like it so I was like ";o..", I'ma get MW3 and UMVC3 for PS3.
JuxtaposeX
Smash Lord
omg my genius falco AT thread just got locked
Jimmyfosho
Smash Hero
Both of those topics suck why would we talk about them
Fire!
Smash Champion
Yeah, I was thinking that too. The game's fun, but unless you actually have a good team you can communicate with, it grows old quick. Then again, they only let us play on one map with one gametype.
Inferno3044
Smash Master
Stop getting trolled by a bad troll.Both of those topics suck why would we talk about them
Troll post!Stop getting trolled by a bad troll.
Kanzaki
Smash Champion
With Metaknight banned, I might drop Fox and go all Mario :]
JuxtaposeX
Smash Lord
Keep Fox for Falco imo.
vato_break
Smash Master
kanzaki will still get bodied by my secondaries 
Kanzaki
Smash Champion
Last I remember, my Fox destroyed your Diddy
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