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WeirdChillFever
Rychu
BKupa666
is one of the absolutely most mind-boggling sets I’ve read (not counting really incomprehensible rubbish), fitting for the iconic villain. The fact that a single person created something this elaborate is truly impressive, so props to Kupa just for making this. Mysterio’s entire schtick is one that sends up a lot of red flags all over the place, the kind of set material that is generally unappealing to someone like me because it’s a nightmare for balancing. That being said, Mysterio does an incredible job with the material in the set with only a few areas of concern.
FrozenRoy
I have finished Rufus finally! I'm a sucker for a fancy gunwork set as might be evident by my own setwork this contest so I really enjoyed his set. Rufus has one of the better uses of an ammo mechanic I've seen in recent memory with your amount of ammo left directly influencing what moves you'll want to use, and having an auto reload mechanic means you've actually got to keep an eye on your bullets rather than just spending a lot of time camping for reloads (though you can still do this by just using bullet moves away from the opponent to force a reload). Darkstar is really well executed for a puppet with a full moveset, and while his moves tend to be shorter on the whole I think this works best. Darkstar doesn't cost a stock on death while Rufus does, so there's a strong incentive to play as Rufus primarily while using Darkstar for support. Of course, this is gives a huge reward for mechanical skill and game sense for quick switching.
ForwardArrow
is the set for you. One of FA’s biggest strengths is the ability to consistently craft sets that play by their own rules and this is no exception. Primordial Darkness is impractically strong for a moveset, outdamaging even the bosses in Smash Bros (AFAIK). Naturally this demands balance for a character that can just be casually picked up and played, and for the most part I think PD actually finds that balance.
Katapultar
has done an excellent job at making what feels like the definitive Pennywise set. This is one of the tackiest sets I’ve seen in a while, but in a way that is both intentional and fitting and it works really well here. Nearly every move is highly referential, mixed in well with plenty of constant taunting and heckling of the foe. It’s also a little weird to have read Mysterio after Pennywise, given they have quite a few similarities with the illusory Pennywise and the giant hand Smash.
WeirdChillFever
always makes sets that are, if nothing else, interesting, but I go on record as saying Cap’n Cuttlefish is easily the best of your sets I’ve read so far. This isn’t by default or anything, Cap’n Cuttlefish is a genuinely really neat set that explores some great concepts. I enjoyed your BotW sets but Cuttlefish feels much more cohesive than Kilton did. Cuttlefish manages to have great central concepts such as the balance of gamestate and the constant presence of C. Q. Cumber while balancing a lot of neat experimental mechanics. The different inks, particularly the Thermal Ink, are fun and do a great job at separating Cuttlefish from Smash’s Inkling. The different projectiles, particularly the bubbles and the curling bomb, make for some really interesting stage control while adding unique twists to Cuttlefish’s gameplay.
BKupa666
. It's an excellent set interpretation for one of the more memorable bosses from LM3 and basically none of his potential is left untapped. Overall this is a solid read (though I'm a bigger fan of Mysterio) and a great take on a featherweight. The set feels like a set for a musical character without falling into any weird traps like forcing rhythm games for the player or foe and instead focusing on weaving musical phrases by adding quick combos together to deliver powerful moves from the Mad Piano. The set makes great use of Wolfgeist being a ghost and allowing him all these neat mobility tools to combine with his constructs, notably his long range grab. Wolfgeist excels at giving himself tools to play off of with his other inputs. One of the big standout moves for me was Wolfgeist's Down Throw that has a huge payoff with great reading and is conceptually very cool.
NeonVoid
a lookthrough! To start off, this moveset feels almost more like a pitch for Cinderace in Smash rather than having been crafted specifically for a competition with the way certain things are worded or justified, but honestly that's not a problem. It's nice to have less aggressive sets to read especially as word creep becomes more and more real in MYM. Cinderace is actually a pretty solid set for a first set (I don't think you've posted any sets in MYM before?), certainly better than most of my starting spread. The cheering mechanic is a fun one and is both unique and totally something that could happen in Smash. It ties in well with the sometimes unwieldy Specials, notably making both Iron Head and Pyro Ball very nicely buffed to compensate for their normal weaknesses. While many of the normals are, well, pretty normal, a few do hop out to me. I like the DAir being a fast combo with a late spike and designed well for crossups on shields.
Katapultar
is a really fun concept as a totally dominated lightweight (excuse for the sorry state of this comment but my Comment Meter is running low). While characters gaining buffs through taking damage is far from new for sets (and we even see it in Smash already of course with Rage and Lucario among others), lightweights always make for more interesting uses of it in my opinion. With heavyweights, it's already expected for them to take damage throughout the fight, hence why they have a high weight. For lightweights taking hits is a much bigger deal since they die so early, and it makes it a great balance of risk getting killed early vs. the advantage getting hit makes. Speaking of, I enjoy Jalter's Avenger Meter, providing some insane potential for her including total invulnerability but it takes quite some work to get to, particularly when there's a good chance she can just as likely be dead at that point. It's like an extreme One Winged Angel. It's much more powerful than just armor on Smashes, but in exchange it's not automatic and Jalter's set is generally just worse than Sephiroth's in terms of usability.
Katapultar
has serious writing chops to crank out so many sets a contest, especially when they get as big as Ayesha Altugle. I want to get the elephant in the room out of the way now: the total word count for these move is just above 21,000 words (that's fine in and of itself), and 8,000 of those words are the Neutral Special Alchemy. Technically Neutral Special covers both the mechanic and the Shield Special, but over a third of the set is kept in this one move. I actually didn't find the move hard to read as it's essentially a dozen or so different attacks condensed into one input, but it's extremely topheavy like this and I'm worried to what extent. Basically Alchemy is a combination of Steve's Mining with Link's Bomb, but rather than just upgrading tools or bringing out a bomb this lets Ayesha spawn in something like 15 different items. Given how good spawning in one item can be for a character, having this many choices even puts Pac-Man to shame. My complaint here is just something of an oft-repeated "too much can be too much", because I actually really like the gathering and alchemy mechanic and having a set more laser-focused on item creation. I think that Ayesha just might have too many options, especially given some of these items can be really powerful. A Snorlax-sized attack is pretty insane, especially considering materials are pretty easy to come by (even the Quality Materials don't seem to hard to scrounge up thanks to the mechanics). The twin suns item is another that's exceptionally powerful, self-admitted in the set, and the variety of the items past the bombs gets to be pretty extreme. I also think the God Drug seems extreme, giving her crazy good jumps and dash speed.
Chase
is a set that unfortunately went under the radar for most of the contest and I apologize it took until the end of the contest to get any input on him. Ganon is a solid first set, having enough understanding of Smash's gameplay to even write up a sizeable playstyle section which is always nice. There's some cool ideas in the set, such as Ganon using his reflector to begin Dead Man's Volley which is a unique twist on the move I'd never seen. There's a few standout moves as well, such as DAir having an interesting landing mechanic or Dash's unique animation. There's a lot of promise in this set that, with more expanding on inputs, could result in a neat and more competitive set.
FrozenRoy
, Shou does an excellent job of turning Smash into a proper bullet hell in a really fun way. While normally a set with this many projectiles and redirections going on at once I would take a bit of umbrage with, as those sets can be pretty overwhelming in concept for a game like Smash rather than a single-player schmup, Shou actually does a really great job of balancing out how the projectile game works. A huge amount of the set is locked behind the charge of NSpec, a move that takes 125 frames before it can even launch off the main construct of the set, and this charge is decreased as Shou gets throttled. This requires some pretty decent playing for her setup rather than just casually throwing it out, a necessity considering some of the incredible things Shou can do. Shou's also got to choose between using her pagoda charge to bring out piles of gems quickly in order to prevent losing the charge or using the charge to buff several of her moves instead, with the best scenario obviously being a combination of the two.
BKupa666
. This set is unabashedly a melee-focused character designed to hunt foes down and he's got some cool tools to help with it. In terms of another anime swordsmen skekMal stands out, with some highlights being how focused he is on both his own and his foe's mobility through his pummel, the Gobbles, and his USpec. The grab game is really well done in general, especially with how the unique grab release plays into his personal rage and the unique forced read UThrow has. I don't have much to say about the bulk of the melee here other than saying that I like it, especially in the Smashes where Hunter gets some pretty cool options. The Rage in the set is brought up at the beginning but doesn't feel like it adds much beyond that, mostly just referred to when it comes to what leads into a successful counter.
ForwardArrow
is a set that I have finished reading! (Sorry, I'm really running out of ways to start comments [insert preferred skull emoji here]) That's not to say I have little to say about her, however! Sekuna is radically different from Primordial Darkness, and while I prefer him for his super extreme experimentation I quite like Sekuna as well. Sekuna isn't exactly a character who plays by the standard Smash book, either, with having a great combo game based heavily around the debuffs she can apply all over the foe and the buffs she can steal them back for. It creates a really threatening situation for foes as they have to change their plan constantly as Sekuna lands more hits on the them, almost any passing blow able to turn the tide in Sekuna's favor (literally). The buffs are no slouch either, most notably I really like having the passive healing effect that requires Sekuna to play aggressively to make use of. It's a good way to balance healing in a set that keeps her from wanting to camp out.
Katapultar
takes a more conservative approach on the genre. Rather than having a ton of tools to abuse through her time stop, she has a brief period where she can get a limited number of moves in. Because of this, building up the time-stop is pretty passive and noncommittal for the schoolgirl. I actually don't hate this idea at all, even if it's less experimental than most time-based sets. Having her weave her normals in with the timestop with the express purpose of setting up or following on combos is a great way to make a more digestible time-based set. A great example of how the set uses this is with the jab as an example. The jab doesn't have a super crazy interaction with the timestop. Instead, buffering an attack with jab allows her to stall the start of her time freeze until that attack ends, essentially giving 'free' damage for timing the attack well.
bubbyboytoo
. So far the only set of yours I've read this contest is Robobot Kirby which I gave my thoughts on a good while back, and I think Cyclohm handily takes pole position over him. Cyclohm is a great combination of being made with an excellent understanding of Smash's general gameplay while bringing in a solid, creative toolkit for stage control. Cyclohm is really fun in how he manipulates foes around the stage, and his four Specials all contribute nicely to a really sound gameplan. Cyclohm is also on the 'shorter' side, even though it clocks in at 10k+ words, and it's really refreshing to read sets that shed a lot of extra weight for a focused strategy.
Almand
has shaved years from my life just for opening the set. Now, thankfully Ty is deceptively long; moves are broken up by page, increasing that count by a lot, and a fair number of words are dedicated to either templates or numbers isolated from sentences, meaning it's not quite like reading a few chapters of a book. Don't let that fool you, Ty is still an in depth set for a Very weapon switching mechanic. With 8 boomerangs and 3 robots, plus the ability to mix and match boomerangs, only hold one, or be unarmed, there's no shortage of variety in Ty, lending to a lot of different frame and damage breakdowns. Ty actually does a good job of making these options feel different, and adding an actual element of mixing boomerangs being really nice for gameplay while also not making the set overly bloated (a funny thing to say about a hundred page set, perhaps).
WeirdChillFever
is definitely the best Daisy we've had, and there's plenty of Daisy sets in MYM. The set has a unique take on stage control that encourages utilizing her Gardens for movement rather than camping. Unfortunately, Daisy has no Final Smash, and therefore I can only rate her 1/10, I'm sorry, please try again next year...
Almand
is quite the trip that lived up to the expectations I had from other readers' reactions! Ty was very very grounded in the source material, creating a set that squeezed every drop of his home games out into set form. Ditto seems to be what happens when you take that template off with some of the most wild and baffling moves I've seen for a character. You've done a commendable job with how you've planned out every detail of Ditto's set; how the moves are copied and can be locked in or stored as TMs, the sleep / stun / dizzy mechanic that can be swapped out to increase those move uses, a fully functional set designed to integrate with any copied moves. It's a lot to take in but it's still really digestible and you've done well at making these ideas clear. I do agree with Froy that I think the end result is an incredibly cluttered UI, but I don't actually mind it too much since you'll just be glancing at it for a refresher normally or to check you and your foe's states. I also agree that the TM would be hard to see as described but again this is a smaller thing and could be fixed by having the copied move character's face take up the whole TM except the rim to see charge, and then put in the UI input describing image on there big enough to generally see.
). Ditto's own moveset has its entire own thing going on, allowing him to fish for status effects with his moves. This is a huge step up from Ty where I brought up making sure his rangless set has it's own identity, and Ditto really excels here. The attack scaling and the TM mechanic also mean that Ditto mirror matches aren't nerfed at all, as they can copy moves they already have but make them even stronger which is a whole new set of mindgames!
Almand
, but that's not to say it doesn't have cool things happening in it. Despite staying fairly "in Smash" for the inputs, Cooking Mama is definitely worth a read for how she recontexualizes some canon Smash inputs. The main highlight for the set is Mama's vegetable garden, functionally like Villager's Tree where the move changes stages as her vegetables grow. She can pluck her vegetables up and use them in her set in some neat ways, serving as an item, food, or even a cool addition to the neat Down Smash (even if this leads to said Smash having 6 pages of frame data). I was curious at what a more reined in set by you would look like, and Cooking Mama fills that role nicely.
Katapultar
is here to scratch that itch! Pretty uniquely, this yandere uses her tail as her tether, making sure she keeps her objects of desire close (but not TOO close), unless she really wants them to be. Her ability to adjust the tether is pretty interesting, utilizing her crossups and rolls to physically wrap around the foe and draw them nearer and nearer. The set has fun with allowing Kiyohime to be pulled along by her tail upon launching an opponent, useful for both follow-ups and for canceling out of her own moves (the latter being a really cool idea for some of her longer, multihit moves).
Katapultar
may be the slowest of the maids to have arrived in MYM, but she is certainly not the least! I really think Chame benefited heavily by getting finished after MYM 22's Dragonmaids. Chame has the exact kind of focus that I think would have benefited her compatriots. She doesn't turn fully into a dragon on her recovery, she doesn't spawn in furniture to break down, she's here to do one thing: clean. Chame embodies the idea that these are maids better than her sister sets. The passive cleaning mechanics has a ton of value in Chame's set as they boost all her Specials in really nice ways. This kind of passive stage setup and maintenence is always a treat and at times I'm even reminded of Aki with how attacks weave in and out of the clean parts of the stage. She also has more than ample tools for her to keep the stage clean despite the foe's efforts.
bubbyboytoo
trades away the stage control elements that we saw in Cyclohm for having a more melee and mechanically focused set. The idea behind this set is pretty rad, actually. Polterkitty sneaking around the stage and stalking the foe results in having some pretty unique and cool tools. Her mobility is pretty unique, not being super fast but being super flexible instead. I really enjoy having a Special dedicated to just a slow, superarmored approach walk that protects from projectiles. This is a neat tool that's obviously balanced by being nothing else. You just approach the foe. Menacingly! There's even the foresight to have leaving this state perform a little hit, otherwise it would be pretty difficult to capitalize off as she'd never end with any kind of advantage. The highlight (and, well, the entirety) of the set here is the melee. This is a great kind of set to write for improvement because there's no crutches to beef the set up, you're just relying on your gamesense and visualization to make the set work. And it does work! Even a lot of the standards have pretty neat followups or options, like DTilt and USmash!)! I think Polterkitty is handily better than Robobot but ultimately Cyclohm has just a bit more going for it so it takes the lead over our feline friend, but the competition is pretty close and this is still a set to be proud of!
GolisoPower
I commented on was Snom, so it's nice to get back for more commentary for Judgement. I'm a little burnt out right now, so do forgive me if this comment runs a little short and/or nonsensical! It's been a while since I read Snom but I'm sensing some similarities in terms of the kinds of criticisms I'd have with this set. The set feels like you had a handful of ideas and put those on inputs somewhat in a vacuum, ending with not a versatile toolkit but more of a bunch of loose tools. One of the big things that would help develop the sets more would be building the moves along with each other. Having a kickable projectile can be cool, and the Chains of Sin are just straight up cool temporary walls that Judgement can really leave around the stage. Immediately, I was shocked that there's just no interaction between these freely placeable walls and her main projectile here. Having her be able to, say, kick the rock into these chains and have it bounce around the walls at the expense of their durability would be a great way to build the two moves off of each other.
imagination i think of animations for attacks that could follow up on that, like coming up with a comboing NAir, FAir, and BAir. I'd then go and detail those moves out, and see if how I envision those would lead into anything else. I think Judgement and your future sets in general would benefit by picking a few structural bases, say the Chains of Sin, the Success Warp, and a few combo starters, and then focus on building the moves around those ideas. It's not the perfect solution, but I've found it can be really reliable and would help make the set cohesive.
Rychu
is a pretty extreme fighter who is hard designed into comboing thanks to his unique Saiyan Rage mechanic, leading many of his moves to become extremely swingy in their performance. I kind of like the idea of a character who has absurd combo potential with his devastating moves but leaves himself wide open on misses. It feels very DragonBall, I say as someone who hasn't watched it. I think the idea can be refined a bit as Broly exclusively uses it for 'make sure you hit and don't miss and you're fine' without really exploring other areas of that. This leads to him having a pretty abysmal neutral and disadvantage state, I would think, as he essentially has the first two hits of jab and NAir in order to open foes up to attacks. I think Broly should have a few more 'weaker' tools so he can actually protect himself and manage to play when he's not currently hitting the foe. There's also the really bizarre choice of having Broly's FAir put him in freefall, something I'm not sure I've really ever seen before. Notably, unlike UAir FAir is not a recovery move in any way and just goes to polarize how strong but risky his attacks are even further.
Rychu
sets this contest with Phoenix, I think he winds up being more of a success than Broly with the ideas of the set being IMO better built upon. The main ideas with Phoenix here are his credits, headshots, and comboing his different fire arms into each other thanks to a unique ammo mechanic that gives almost every standard it's own ammo count. While this is a pretty simple mechanic I think it's really intuitive and bats away the normal problem ammo mechanics have by just letting Phoenix choose between sustaining the fire of his attacks and have to go into a reload or mix his combos up to keep his bullets fresh. I actually think Phoenix could use more incentive to risk getting that reload mechanic off, and I think having bullets deal more damage as they're used consecutively would encourage there being more of a choice to players. That or the number of weapons could be shrunken down and have multiple inputs share a weapon / ammo (kind of like how Byleth's weapons are tied to the inputs).
GolisoPower
take a swing at it! Right off the bat I want to say this set is a huge step up from Judgement and Snom in terms of creativity and realization. Chosen Undead plays very much by his own rules, and while I think there are some big red flags and issues in this set I still think this is more the direction you should take sets. Stamina is a pretty core idea in Dark Souls so I can understand going for that as a unique ammo mechanic for Chosen Undead. He goes really extreme with this, losing stamina during nearly any action (much like Dark Souls) in exchange for having some of the most insane defensive options I've seen in a set. The balance here is that Chosen Undead has to play a bit carefully with his slow attacks, reminding me a little of Broly, and making sure he always has the stamina to move and defend himself.
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Katapultar
Thanks for reading Ochako! You did tell me you like MHA in private, that's a perfectly good incentive to start reading. Did see on your MYM24 previews you want to make a set for Stain, the MHA fans of MYM (myself included) are looking forward to him! Reading is definitely a good way to get a grasp for setmaking, expectations and even set ideas of your own. As far as reading difficulties go, it may be that Ochako's set length was longer than you may be accustomed to, as I don't believe any of the setmakers more used to MYM's average set length had problems reading her. Ochako is far from the best set in this contest, or even the longest for that matter (longer sets tend to be 20k over Ochako's 10k, but Lucky Louise from this contest is over 30k!); it'd be interesting to hear your opinions on other sets, even if it was next contest which is not long off.Doubt it will make much of a difference in the overall contest, but I wanted to at least get one comment out before the end.
Ochako
So, I loved Ochako! Truth be told it was a difficult set to read. Now it's entirely possible this was just due to it being my first set ever reading, or the fact that I had a lot going on and just couldn't make time for the set. It was confusing to read at first, but after developing some set-reading muscles and visualizing Ochako and how she works in my head, I think I got a good idea of how Ochako would play.
It's hard to note any negatives (the only thing I have to compare it to is my Shadow set-which is painful to look back and read now that I've realized what a quality set looks like).
I think you did a great job with Ochako's stats and overall gimmick of FLOAT. It's a perfect way to demonstrate the character in an environment as chaotic as Smash. I can tell she will be a character that has a moderately high skill floor and an infinitely high skill ceiling (so, needless to say, not my kind of character-I main Bowser in Ult and he's literally made for babies). This is a character where creativity can really shine on a level we've never seen from the current cast of Smash Ultimate characters (haven't played Melee or Brawl competitively so can't speak on either of those games).
Starting off reading, I thought the cracks would be a very niche gimmick that would be difficult to use, but after seeing how she could activate them with FLOAT during certain motions and attacks made me realize how genius it's put together. It's an extremely well balanced gimmick.
My favorite parts of the set were not when you utilized her Quirk or her Gunhead Martial Arts but both in tandem, because they are almost equally important to Ochako as a character. My personal favorite move happened to be not only her grab but it in combination with her forward throw, which scream of personality and character as well as being creative fighting tools.
Overall I really don't have anything negative to say-though that may change over time as I become a more seasoned MYMer and make my first decent set while reading and commenting on many more. Ochako's got my vote.
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