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Majora's Mask Mafia | Game Over!

Overswarm

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I'm still unsure how I feel about Pierre.

Normally I avoid inactives and focus on people that are deliberately avoiding prods, as they are more often mafia. Very rare when mafia is a replacement due to inactivity or someone who is threatened with being modkilled.
 

-Vocal-

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Support for Adumb grew quick. Maybe it's my inexperience, but I don't think he should be the play - other players have been scummier in my eyes.

Like Bed and Swiss.

LYNCH BED NAO
 

-Vocal-

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shouting just makes me hate you


show me why he is scummy and I might vote him
He joins a lot of wagons.

Man, I wish I had the mental capacity to formulate a real argument. This hell has been week.

Wait, reverse that. Legitimate typo, and I kinda don't want to erase it.

He leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Him and Swiss both.
 

adumbrodeus

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Don't play thick.

You make a post saying - Gonna vote him in 3 mins, no-one else vote to avoid a quick hammer 'cuz of post ninja'ing. You being V/LA doesn't, imo, mean you can say Swiss is V/LA so lets leave him.

Not ALL in the same post, how does the help avoid ninjas?

Will pull up quotes.
I almost always refresh to avoid getting ninja'd. I wanted to avoid people jumping on after I voted, so my attempt was to make people aware of the votecount.


But thanks for the idea I'll keep it in mind for future reference when putting somebody to L-1.




*thinks back*

Oh wait, I think I know what you're talking about, I don't remember OS saying you were V/LA and I don't have the time to recheck cause my train will be here in 5 minutes.

But lets assume that you're correct for a second and OS did say you were V/LA and I said something like "no point in pressuring swiss".

If so, how does it show any clear pattern of parroting?


Especially considering I disagreed with OS on a number of points.
 

Sir Bedevere

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He joins a lot of wagons.
Wagon hopping isn't scummy in itself. If you're trying to indiscriminately kill every player in the game, then yeah, you clearly need to be lynched, but I don't feel like Swiss (or I) have done that.

@adum, I've been on a grand total of 3 wagons at this point: Roxy (which I started), OS, and you, and I've only switched to you because it's pretty clear my read on OS is not enough to sway the rest of town into voting him. You're over exaggerating my actions and tunneling me, and you still haven't explained what "patterns" of mine are scummy (the points made by Vocal are not legitimate; they reveal a player who does not look into the meanings and intents of posts when analyzing them, rather than a player who does not have backing to his actions).

And uhhh, if you think I'm scummy for joining wagons, why do you think Swiss is town for damm near those same reasons?

Think I need to do another reread (omg so many rereads) to make sure I/we're on the right track.

I'm still all for the Pierre modkill, but I don't actually know if Pierre will get enough prods by the deadline. D:

@mod, How many prods does Pierre currently have, and when will his next prod be?
 

DtJ Hilt

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@mod, request votecount
Day Two Vote Count
[1] Overswarm: Sir Bedevere
[1] X1-12: Pierre The Scarecrow
[1] Vocal: X1-12
[2] Swiss: Dastrn, Overswarm
[2] Sir Bedevere: Adumbrodeus, Vocal
[1] Adumbrodeus: Swiss

Day two will end October 21st at 3:00 PM.
With eight players remaining it takes five votes to lynch.
@Mod: also update on pierre situation?
@mod, How many prods does Pierre currently have, and when will his next prod be?
Pierre has received three prods and will receive his fourth tomorrow at 2:59 PM. If the day ends before this happens, he will instead receive his fourth prod on the day following the beginning of Day Three at 3:00 PM. I have asked in the signups thread for a replacment in case he receives his fourth prod, but I haven't gotten any replies. If nobody replies before his fourth prod is given he will be mod killed. If he is modkilled and is town, the day will immediately end. Otherwise the day will continue.
 

Sir Bedevere

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tomorrow at 2:59 PM.
Oh man this is gonna be tight, both time-wise and "awesome"-wise.

Will rage is he posts/gets replaced before then. I'm also JUST getting home at around that time, so if we somehow decide (with good reasoning >.>) that we don't want the modkill and need to lynch someone else, I should be able to vote.

@mod, Swiss is voting adum

Unvote vote Adum
Thought adum had more votes on him for some reason.

Vote: adum
 

Sir Bedevere

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wait wait wait

@mod, if Pierre is modkilled at 2:59PM tomorrow and he is not town-aligned, when will the deadline for D2 be?
 

adumbrodeus

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Wagon hopping isn't scummy in itself. If you're trying to indiscriminately kill every player in the game, then yeah, you clearly need to be lynched, but I don't feel like Swiss (or I) have done that.

@adum, I've been on a grand total of 3 wagons at this point: Roxy (which I started), OS, and you, and I've only switched to you because it's pretty clear my read on OS is not enough to sway the rest of town into voting him. You're over exaggerating my actions and tunneling me, and you still haven't explained what "patterns" of mine are scummy (the points made by Vocal are not legitimate; they reveal a player who does not look into the meanings and intents of posts when analyzing them, rather than a player who does not have backing to his actions).

And uhhh, if you think I'm scummy for joining wagons, why do you think Swiss is town for damm near those same reasons?

Think I need to do another reread (omg so many rereads) to make sure I/we're on the right track.

I'm still all for the Pierre modkill, but I don't actually know if Pierre will get enough prods by the deadline. D:

@mod, How many prods does Pierre currently have, and when will his next prod be?
Two reasons:

1. Your scumhunting game is near non-existant.

2. Swiss starts wagons, you started one, the rest you joined when they were safe.



Granted, I'm beginning to wonder if swiss is just tossing out accusations and seeing what sticks long enough to get a lynch.


Still, starting wagons is a far cry from just jumping on the safe wagon at the moment.
 

-Vocal-

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the points made by Vocal are not legitimate; they reveal a player who does not look into the meanings and intents of posts when analyzing them, rather than a player who does not have backing to his actions.
I tried this before, but it didn't go well, so I decided to try a quantitative approach as opposed to qualitative.
 

-Vocal-

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FrozenFlame signed up to replace and will do so after Pierre has received his fourth prod.
So basically

We need to lynch someone before 3:00 tomorrow. We've lost too many townies to go with a no-lynch, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, but numbers are against us at this point
 

DtJ Hilt

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Day Two Vote Count
[1] X1-12: Pierre The Scarecrow
[2] Swiss: Dastrn, Overswarm
[2] Sir Bedevere: Adumbrodeus, Vocal
[2] Adumbrodeus: Swiss, Sir Bedevere
[1] Pierre The Scarecrow: X1-12

Day two will end October 21st at 3:00 PM.
With eight players remaining it takes five votes to lynch.
 

Overswarm

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lets just go for the abductor


Unvote
Vote: Pierre the Scarecrow
Yeah, no. FrozenFlame is good and will replace him. We'll have actual content instead of this everyone pointing fingers at each other. I'll agree I had suspicions on the abductor call out; you can generally catch special roles by the people that just happen to know the most about them (or talk the most about them). However, it seemed pretty obvious from the Night Actions that there was an abductor and looking at Pierre's other games, he seems to state things out in the open like that. So, I consider it a null tell. FFlame will add some needed discourse to this game, so I'd prefer to keep Pierre alive for now.

FF, read up.


This leaves the only current wagons being adumbrodeus and bedevere. I'm not starting a fruitless wagon on the deadline day.

I am already leaning in one direction, but fair is fair. Questions and requests for both of you:


Adumbrodeus:
1) Ask two questions to Frozen Flame as Pierre's replacement

2) What do you think of Sir Bedevere?

3) Do you think these wagons were started by accident, or is scum starting one or both?

4) What do you think of Vocal?

5) What do you think of X-1?

Bedevere:
1) Ask two questions to Frozen Flame as Pierre's replacement

2) What do you think of Adumbrodeus?

3) Do you think these wagons were started by accident, or is scum starting one or both?

4) What do you think of Swiss?

5) What do you think of Dastrn? What should we do about him?
 

Praxis

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Adumbrodeus:
1) Ask two questions to Frozen Flame as Pierre's replacement

2) What do you think of Sir Bedevere?

3) Do you think these wagons were started by accident, or is scum starting one or both?

4) What do you think of Vocal?

5) What do you think of X-1?
Adumbrodeus is at work and will not be back home until past the deadline. I have been updating him via his phone. He has requested that I post his responses for him in his current situation without PC access. He has texted Hilt requesting permission for me to do this, but has not received a response.
Below is Adumbrodeus's post, word for word:



1. what are your current reads? whats your analysis of the overswarm wagon? what do you think of swiss?

2. most likely scum from your wagon, had the scummiest position and almost nil contribution beyond that, so i get a strong

3. currently i dont think my wagon was started by scum, but at least one scum is supporting it to make it viable. nobody on the bedevere wagon stands out as scummy atm, so unlikely

4. my read of vocal is consistent, i think he's town, and just learning how to play properly.

5. x1 im a little less wary of because of his willingnes to start new wagons, but still a nulltell

i'm sorry hilt, tried to text you and right at the deadline, since we cant afford a no lynch, had to do it this way. everything is my words, praxis just copy-pasted, and let me know the current state of the thread. oh, all from my fone in case you guys didnt realize this
 

Praxis

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Adumbrodeus again:

god, 20 minutes people, and nobody's here? unvote, vote: swiss
we need a lynch, srry swiss, we cant afford a no lynch and voting you brings it to 3
 

Praxis

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Adumbrodeus:

you realize the votecount says 3 pm... right? its past 3 pm EST which is usually standard if unstated.

the other likely option is hilt's home time which is one hour earlier iirc cause hes midwest.

if you did that, i'd switch back to bedevere obviously
 

Overswarm

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Day two will end October 21st at 3:00 PM.

I think we are in twilight.
 

Swiss

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Unvote Vote Sir Bed

Not a good lynch imo...but better than me!

/subscription -> refresh...really? ****. Time zones are normally 6/7 hours after the GMT time for me, didn't consider that.

Cop should investigate myself, Adum or OS (even though he's probably town) imo. We're failing in this game guys. Seriously.

Something needs to change 2mo.
 

Praxis

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Adumbrodeus:

i agree os, but in case hilt meant his home time we might as well try till hilt closes it, unvote, vote: sir bedevere
 

Overswarm

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unvote vote: Sir Bedevere

Hopefully this still works.


Cop, investigate carefully. You have two options: investigate a prime target or investigate a secondary target. Numbers will be getting slimmer after tomorrow. If you investigate a prime target toDay and you aren't planning on claiming tomorrow, your ability is useless if they get lynched (and are town). Choose carefully!


I'm curious about adumbrodeus now though.
 
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