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Swiss

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Pierre where u @? Thoughts. Now. You went through yesterDay with NOT A SINGLE POST. Caps for emphasis.

Man, OS, I'm sorry but you're scum. Jesus.

X1, baby, honey lets lynch him RIGHT NOW !!!""!!11!!!one!

Vote OverSwarm

Dan either commuted (or some shizzle, ma nizzle) and removed himself or scum removed him. No townie did.

I'm not joking about the OS lynch. He's scum.
 

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Pierre where u @? Thoughts. Now. You went through yesterDay with NOT A SINGLE POST. Caps for emphasis.

Man, OS, I'm sorry but you're scum. Jesus.

X1, baby, honey lets lynch him RIGHT NOW !!!""!!11!!!one!

Vote OverSwarm

Dan either commuted (or some shizzle, ma nizzle) and removed himself or scum removed him. No townie did.

I'm not joking about the OS lynch. He's scum.
Care to enlighten us with a little reasoning? I somewhat trust your opinion, but I can't take your word for it.
 

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When OS is scum he's confident. Arrogant. He takes lynches and makes them happen. He spent a lot of the day yesterDay telling people how to play and why they're idiots, and whilst he was right, he didn't present much of his own. He let the Roxy lynch happen, and trust me it was CLEAR that guy was scum in the page or so before he dies. OS KNEW he was town.

OS is playing Pierre like he played me in Community. Same style. We lynch OS toDay. We do not 'forget' about his lynch, regardless of what happens toDay. I'm serious about this.
 

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Pierre where u @? Thoughts. Now. You went through yesterDay with NOT A SINGLE POST. Caps for emphasis.

Man, OS, I'm sorry but you're scum. Jesus.

X1, baby, honey lets lynch him RIGHT NOW !!!""!!11!!!one!

Vote OverSwarm

Dan either commuted (or some shizzle, ma nizzle) and removed himself or scum removed him. No townie did.

I'm not joking about the OS lynch. He's scum.
lets go mah bro

Vote: Overswarm

I can't imagine anyone other than OS do that kill lets be honest
 

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When OS is scum he's confident. Arrogant. He takes lynches and makes them happen. He spent a lot of the day yesterDay telling people how to play and why they're idiots, and whilst he was right, he didn't present much of his own. He let the Roxy lynch happen, and trust me it was CLEAR that guy was scum in the page or so before he dies. OS KNEW he was town.

OS is playing Pierre like he played me in Community. Same style. We lynch OS toDay. We do not 'forget' about his lynch, regardless of what happens toDay. I'm serious about this.
OS is always confident and arrogant.


I don't have a read on him yet though, care to explain what posts make you think he KNEW Roxy was town?
 

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Amusing.

Pierre where u @? Thoughts. Now. You went through yesterDay with NOT A SINGLE POST. Caps for emphasis.

Man, OS, I'm sorry but you're scum. Jesus.

X1, baby, honey lets lynch him RIGHT NOW !!!""!!11!!!one!

Vote OverSwarm

Dan either commuted (or some shizzle, ma nizzle) and removed himself or scum removed him. No townie did.

I'm not joking about the OS lynch. He's scum.
When OS is scum he's confident. Arrogant. He takes lynches and makes them happen. He spent a lot of the day yesterDay telling people how to play and why they're idiots, and whilst he was right, he didn't present much of his own. He let the Roxy lynch happen, and trust me it was CLEAR that guy was scum in the page or so before he dies. OS KNEW he was town.

OS is playing Pierre like he played me in Community. Same style. We lynch OS toDay. We do not 'forget' about his lynch, regardless of what happens toDay. I'm serious about this.
I'm playing Pierre? The guy who hasn't posted?

Swiss, I understand you've only played like... one game with me where I wasn't posting journal entreis and I was scum, but keep in mind my playstyle isn't quite so easy to read. I'm always confident. When I have a lead, I push for it.


lets go mah bro

Vote: Overswarm

I can't imagine anyone other than OS do that kill lets be honest
You can't imagine ANYONE other than me? Really? How many scum are left, X1?

He's more confident as scum.

Roxy mislynch amuses him, as that's what he did last time as scum. He plays for fun and lulz, like me.
Well, you just cleared me for anyone that knows me.

I play to win. Winning is fun.

I also like the "Roxy mislynch amuses him, that's what he did last time as scum".


[6] Roxy: Sir Bedevere, Overswarm, Swiss, Adumbrodeus, Dastrn, Vocal

You voted immediately after me. This was followed by three others, one of which hammered before Roxy could claim.

So, let me recap this for you:

You saw a wagon that I was on, being the second person to vote.

You consider it a worthwhile wagon and join.

Swiss said:
X1 loses his opportunity

Unvote Vote Roxy/Katy

I see what I don't like, and I don't like what I see.
Roxy dies.

You post "Pierre didnt' say anything all Day!"

You post "OS is really aggro! He's been right about everything he's said and I've agreed with what he says, but he's DEFINITELY scum"

You post "OS is playing Pierre like he did me!"


Really?

"OS did everything right, I agreed with him and did exactly what he did by agreeing with him and voting on the same wagon, but now I think he's scum"?

Be less paranoid and make an actual case, please.

Although, I have to say... it is fun to see you doing this. Shows I really messed with your head in Community. :)



I'm going to do a re-read before posting anymore, but thought I'd get that out of the way.
 

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We both knew Roxy wasn't the best lynch man.
What are you implying? Why is Roxy being hammered by Vocal making me scummy? I was the second person to vote him and I even tried to trick him into thinking he was L-1 so he'd claim prior to actually being L-1.
 

Pierre the Scarecrow

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Did anyone else notice that the title says "Dqwn" instead of "Dawn?"

I apologize for my inactivity Day 1, though it is bittersweetly comforting that I was not the only one who fell inactive?

I'm interested to hear Dastrn's magnificent Day 2 super-plan. He had one, right?

@Swiss: I don't think I'm being played by OS. At least, I haven't blindly put my trust in him, so how am I being played? Community Mafia may be the one game on this site I haven't read. What happened with you there that has OS laughing at you?

Does anyone want to admit that they visited DanGR last night? Anyone?

For now, I am planting my vote on X1.

vote: X1-12

When I saw that DanGR went missing, I immediately thought of the role the Abductor. Most often used as an independent role. This game is kind of small for an independent, so maybe it is some skewed version.
 

Overswarm

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@Swiss: I don't think I'm being played by OS. At least, I haven't blindly put my trust in him, so how am I being played? Community Mafia may be the one game on this site I haven't read. What happened with you there that has OS laughing at you?
Sworddancer and I had a two-pronged approach. I was visible, he was invisible. I would extrapolate anything that Swiss did by abusing his style. He had a habit of not being serious at first but hinting at what he actually wanted to do, so it was easy to pre-empt his plans. As such, everything I did generally went along with him. X1-12 followed him a lot. This gave me some base support while Sworddancer was ignored and I tried to keep things off of him, and by the time Swiss could say something bad about me, it was lylo.

tl;dr, Swiss was one of my pawns. I complimented his strong play and did everything he would do.

For now, I am planting my vote on X1.

vote: X1-12

When I saw that DanGR went missing, I immediately thought of the role the Abductor. Most often used as an independent role. This game is kind of small for an independent, so maybe it is some skewed version.
Does your vote and statement have some sort of correlation? I couldn't help but fail to see your reasoning behind the X1-12 vote. There are plenty of viable ones, but you seem not to mention one in particular.
 

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Btw Pieree ain't bein' played. I made that post pre-re-read (pro gaming). And he was active at the beginning of the day which I like and had forgotten.

FYI.

I post without thinkin' lots. Pro.
 

Overswarm

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Personal suggestion, Swiss?

Drop your case on me for now, gather evidence, then make an actual case later.

No matter how strong your "gut" is, a strong read it does not make. There could be one mafia member this game and I could be it; you call me scum. I'm not caught, because you have to convince at least half the other people there (see: more than X1-12).

It's alright to be wary of me, but you're gonna need more than "he's confident". I'm confident in all my games. People can read my ongoing games or my finished games; the only passive one i've ever been in was Bioware.


I still need to re-read. Have been busy in other games / work. Want to analyze the flips.
 

Sir Bedevere

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Why did scum kill BSL? I ISO'd him, he had like no connections to anyone (he essentially FOS'd OS, that was it). Does anyone have any reliable scum meta on a player in this game who always likes to kill players who have few connections? Or is that just something people sometimes do as scum. >_>

why did they take my dangr away :<

os bandwagon seems fun

vote: os
 

-Vocal-

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Why did scum kill BSL? I ISO'd him, he had like no connections to anyone (he essentially FOS'd OS, that was it). Does anyone have any reliable scum meta on a player in this game who always likes to kill players who have few connections? Or is that just something people sometimes do as scum. >_>

why did they take my dangr away :<

os bandwagon seems fun

vote: os
Do you think they had a better choice in someone else? Who do you think they should've lynched instead?
 

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Do you think they had a better choice in someone else? Who do you think they should've lynched instead?
I still want sir B to answer, but also, who would you night kill (not lynch) if you were scum?

@All but vocal: has anyone read Newbie 8?
 

Overswarm

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uhh

Why did scum kill BSL? I ISO'd him, he had like no connections to anyone (he essentially FOS'd OS, that was it). Does anyone have any reliable scum meta on a player in this game who always likes to kill players who have few connections? Or is that just something people sometimes do as scum. >_>

why did they take my dangr away :<

os bandwagon seems fun

vote: os
That's exactly why they'd do it. Same reason the abductor (I agree with you, Pierre) targetted DangR. ToDay is currently a crapshoot.

Strong scum will rarely target people that directly attack them; it's too obvious and there's always at least one person that tunnels them because of it. More often they target people that no one can trace. As such, they get exactly 0 information on the flip.

We have a mislynch D1 due to Vocal accidentally hammering prior to Roxy's claim
We have a virutally unknown townie killed at Night
We have another fairly quiet one abducted

Now it's like a new D1, except with 3 people gone. Granted, DangR could be scum, but we aren't sure. Either way it's not the best scenario for us.

I've reread a bit, but can't find much. I really don't like Vocal's accidental lynching of Roxy, but I'm not willing to lynch him over it. I don't like Swiss' push on me, but I can see how he can be jumpy. X1-12 always parrots because he has trouble finding reads on his own, but loves pushing.

Unsure of everyone in this game. Want to hear more from Pierre.
 

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I feel like I've been here before

@OS: who would you consider in this game to be smart enough to kill BSL?


Can someone please explain what the
abductor role is?
 

Sir Bedevere

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Do you think they had a better choice in someone else? Who do you think they should've lynched instead?
As scum, I think the best kill targets are people who are active and do protown things, but not the person who is MOST protown (aka the most likely person for a doc target). I don't think killing inactives/useless players/weaker players are very good for the mafia at all, because in all likelihood, town is going to end up mislynching them anyway. Who they went after/how right they were about who was town/mafia is not really important; the only thing that matters is that they're active and good players, and thus a threat. In that vein, I think Swiss/Dastrn/Pierre would all be pretty good kill targets (and it looks like the Abducter agrees with me). If I had to choose one, it'd probably be Pierre.

However, after thinking about it, in this situation, and looking at what OS said, killing BSL was also acceptable, since we didn't really get much info out of him/Roxy/Dangr leaving us. It just wasn't the first NK choice that immediately came to me (omg wifom).

@X1, I remember skimming it, but I barely remember anything from it.

An Abductor is an Independent role that, during the Night, can abduct any player, which is what happened to Dangr (can't post, can't be killed, etc). Like an SK, they win when they're the only one left, but if they get killed before then, all the people he abducted come back into the game and play resumes as normal.

Does abducting have precedence over killing? If so we might get to make the mafia claim in a 3-man lylo situation since they'll lose if they lynch a townie/we'll lose if we lynch the scum. :p

@mod, if an abductor were to exist in this game, would their abducting abilities occur before any night killing abilities (specifically, the mafia's ability to night kill), or at the same time, or after?
 

-Vocal-

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Why did scum kill BSL? I ISO'd him, he had like no connections to anyone (he essentially FOS'd OS, that was it). Does anyone have any reliable scum meta on a player in this game who always likes to kill players who have few connections? Or is that just something people sometimes do as scum. >_>

why did they take my dangr away :<

os bandwagon seems fun

vote: os
This post makes me a tad uncomfortable to be honest. It seems almost like Bedevere is trying to make a specific effort to appear to miss those who are no longer in our presence, whereas everyone else has simply accepted the occurrences and begun to analyze them. It smells faintly of mafia to me - what is everyone else's opinion?
 

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Day Two Vote Count
[3] Overswarm: Swiss, X1-12, Sir Bedevere
[1] X1-12: Pierre The Scarecrow

[4] Not Voting: -Vocal-, Adumbrodeus, Overswarm, Dastrn

Day two will end October 21st at 3:00 PM.
With eight players remaining it takes five votes to lynch

@mod, if an abductor were to exist in this game, would their abducting abilities occur before any night killing abilities (specifically, the mafia's ability to night kill), or at the same time, or after?
I can not answer this question. I am sorry.
 

Overswarm

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He's not sorry at all.


I'm wondering if it is possible or even likely that all 3 scum could be on my wagon.

It grew quickly without too much substance to it, but I can see where Swiss is coming from and X1-12 has been known to parrot. Especially Swiss.

So I can't read either of them just at this moment, although Swiss strikes me as odd. I did a baseless Roxy lynch in Community, and I did it the same way he's pushing for me now... so I wonder.

But I can't confirm anything and asking questions about it won't help since I know the options.

So all I have left is Sir Bedevere.


Bed, why's your vote on me?
 

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@Adum: Can you dig into this post and tell me if there's anything you don't like in it?

He's not sorry at all.


I'm wondering if it is possible or even likely that all 3 scum could be on my wagon.

It grew quickly without too much substance to it, but I can see where Swiss is coming from and X1-12 has been known to parrot. Especially Swiss.

So I can't read either of them just at this moment, although Swiss strikes me as odd. I did a baseless Roxy lynch in Community, and I did it the same way he's pushing for me now... so I wonder.

But I can't confirm anything and asking questions about it won't help since I know the options.

So all I have left is Sir Bedevere.


Bed, why's your vote on me?
 

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So I can't read either of them just at this moment, although Swiss strikes me as odd. I did a baseless Roxy lynch in Community, and I did it the same way he's pushing for me now... so I wonder.
Genuine LOL.

Hahaha I love playing with you.

Anyways, scum is a decent player. They killed a crap player. There are (at least one) possibly two scum in myself, Adum, Pierre & OS. Puttin' that out there now.
 

-Vocal-

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Genuine LOL.

Hahaha I love playing with you.

Anyways, scum is a decent player. They killed a crap player. There are (at least one) possibly two scum in myself, Adum, Pierre & OS. Puttin' that out there now.
To each of the four he just named: which of the others do you believe is most likely to be scum?
 

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X1-12
-Vocal-
Adumbrodeus
DanGR
Overswarm
JoanBud Sir Bedevere
Pierre The Scarecrow
Swiss
Dastrn

Dastrn or Sir Bed could have made the choice as well, but I agree overall with Swiss' sentiment. Only takes one though.
 

Dastrn

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I think Sir Bed is most likely scum at this point.

His "why would scum do that" just sounds like he's trying too hard to sound like he doesn't understand.

vote: Sir Bed

OS looks town to me. His wagon is dumb.
 

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Why is his wagon dumb? Purely because you do not think he is scum is not justification. Gut no good in this game?

Sir Bed is town. (Your attempt to wagon is dumb amirite?)
 

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Anyways, scum is a decent player. They killed a crap player. There are (at least one) possibly two scum in myself, Adum, Pierre & OS. Puttin' that out there now.
Do you think the same applies for the abductor?

I'm not sure where I want to go. Not Swiss or Vocal. I feel weird about OS's wagon, and I think Sir Bev is just going to come back and say "I just joined it for pressure" and his will die down too.

@OS: It seems to me that every time you are attacked, you respond with "come back when you have evidence." Would you say that is accurate?

I still want sir B to answer, but also, who would you night kill (not lynch) if you were scum?

@All but vocal: has anyone read Newbie 8?
What's behind these two questions?

@Dastrn: Didn't you have some master plan today? I already mentioned it today, did you skim that?
 

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@OS: It seems to me that every time you are attacked, you respond with "come back when you have evidence." Would you say that is accurate?
If you'd like a watered-down, generalized soundbyte, then yes.

Otherwise no. While it has been the case that no one has really presented a real "case" on me, I find it odd that you say "every time".

How many times have I been attacked, Pierre?

I see Swiss starting a wagon, parroted by X1-12 and Bed who I'm currently waiting for his reasoning (which he didn't post).

I've said "come back when you have evidence" to one person. The person who said I was scum, started the first and only wagon on me, and is basing it purely off a gut read.

Why the broad brushstroke, Pierre?

To put it into clearer terms:

Pierre, it seems that every time you post you primarily avoid posting your own reads and rather ask loaded questions. Would you consider this to be accurate?
 

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Thanks to Pierre for reminding me, I'll explain why after I get answers

Oh yes, that's what I meant, night kill, not lynch, sorry for the wrong terminlogy
This is a nice way to dodge answering the question: Who would you NK if you are scum?
 

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Thanks to Pierre for reminding me, I'll explain why after I get answers

This is a nice way to dodge answering the question: Who would you NK if you are scum?
>.>

I'm the one who asked the question :laugh: I don't need to answer it because I never questioned BSL being a good nk.
 

Overswarm

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I think it might be prudent for everyone to wait for both X1 and Dastrn to explain just WTF they're doing. I'm completely lost as to what either of them are planning.
 
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