Majoras Mask Mafia! DGames' Longest Game Ends - Who Won?!?!?!?

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Expect a post from me in the nearish future. Was out and about all day, just did a quick skim of what I missed but I'll be rereading in more detail now.

Quick thoughts: Still could go for Panta, seems to be picking a little too much on the obvious guy for my liking. Seems like he just wants an easy way out so he doesn't die. I've been in the position before but I don't like his attempt at a way out.

I'd like input from John. 274 is stupidly unspecific. Go into more detail.

Will be back with more in a bit.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Yes. I just said that.
We do not mesh.
This right now right here is us not meshing.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

That was @Raz of course.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

None of the people I need to talk to are here.

Solid, I see the Song of Ice and Fire quote. Now, you're Robert and I'm Cersei. Which of the players in this game are you going to sleep with tonight, keeping in mind that I'll know and will actively hunt down and kill your progeny?

Raziek, rather than dealing with you in thread, I'm going to investigate you toNight. Are you okay with that?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Vote: Circus

 

[Raziek]

Sure thing, Nabe.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

You want me to use up my valuable Night action on you?

 

[Raziek]

That was sarcasm. You're not stupid enough to soft-claim investigative like that, nor do I actually expect you to cop me.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Who's soft-claiming? I am the investigative role in this game, and as such I am going to investigate you. An investigation is in the works. I am labeling an empty file folder RAZ in preparation for toNight when I use it as a case file.

in my investigation

 

[Raziek]

Alright Nabe, whatever you say.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

That was sarcasm. You're not stupid enough to soft-claim investigative like that, nor do I actually expect you to cop me.

Why don't you expect me to cop you? Do you only say so because you don't believe I'm the cop?

 

[Raziek]

Yes, because it'd be god-awful play if you claimed right now.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Okay. So it's not that you don't think I'd investigate you if I were the cop, it's that you don't think I'm the cop, because of the way I've gone about it.

I'm adding this important information to the case file.


Circus, do you want to be my Watson? I'll even take my vote off of you.

 

[T-block]

Whyyy do you guys post so much T.T

Personal dislike OS's plan. Methods of play where scum can manipulate Town's course of action without having to expose themselves.... I don't like.

On top of that, scrambling for a lynch is not always bad. See MMX Day 1 for a clear example. Circus got caught as scum with his pants down.

Setting up a "fallback lynch" in this sort of fashion is almost never going to actually benefit us. If scum gets it, they just pick a Townie and we're automatically at a disadvantage. IF a Townie gets it, they still have to pick scum.

I wish I could have seen you post that before I did, but whatever. Maybe we can finally be best buds this game? ^_^

I did have a stance on Panta within that post and it said I was confused by his slot due to my past experiences with him since I've been in every game he has been in on DGames in some way besides the newest newbie game where he was also lynched D1.

You're being a bit hypocritical with your next question because of your next line. You say you are alright with Panta dying and you make sure to mark it as him dying in general. Yet you say his 105 is nauseous but don't tell us why it is or how it is scummy. But you still try and call me out on "not explaining" well enough on the very same matter.

Can you clear this up? Thanks.

It's not hypocritical... I didn't question your post because you didn't provide reasoning. It was because you didn't give a clear stance, saying things like "he always looks scummy, but i don't like him".

In 105, I saw heavy deflection onto spell, more pre-emptive justification for future inactivity, and defenses that consist of nothing more than "how the hell did you come to that conclusion?". I'll probably bring up a more formal case against Panta later in the Day, so you can wait for that

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

J, where are you? You should be here 24/7 to respond to me immediately.

T-block, I suspect you of being town. Do you deny it?
This is a super-serious question despite what you might think.

 

[Raziek]

We can be buds this game T-Block. :D

 

[Circus]

I'm a little put off by you asking if this was okay.

It was a rhetorical question. And a joke.

On top of that, scrambling for a lynch is not always bad. See MMX Day 1 for a clear example. Circus got caught as scum with his pants down.

Personal thing: If you guys (players in that game) are going to keep bringing this up, you're going to have to think of new words to use in order to say it. Because "Circus got caught with his pants down" and "scum got caught with their pants down" are literally all I keep reading in the MMX thread whenever this is referenced. And it's annoying.

I tend to always have one super confident read per game that is spot on no matter who believes me. It's because of little questions like that that feed me style info on people.

No offense, but if it only works for one read, then it probably has more to do with happenstance than the actual quality of the tactic to which you're attributing the success.

Catching up. Without having read the last few pages yet, I'll tell you that I don't think Panta's scum. And I think Spells would make a much better fallback lynch if we're actually going to stick to that idea (which I'm pretty indifferent toward).

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Well, I can't wait 'til you finish reading.
Feel free to answer any questions I've posed to J that you come up on in your reading.

 

[Circus]

I gotta say, I joined this game purely for the fact of playing a game with someone who saved me and helped me learn my first games as both town and scum ironically back to back. Yet, I don't like you at the moment Dastrn.

Unvote
Vote: Xastrn

Don't ignore me please. ^^ I'd love answers to my questions instead of you CYA. I really dislike your last question btw because it's really pointless and the first line of you expressing "it's not a loaded question." is odd. You're being really cautious this game and too buddying for my tastes. Let's also bring up you have yet to explain your reads and haven't brought your own neck out yet.

I like this post a lot.

 

[T-block]

Panta panta

don't you want a

panta panta

Hi OS.

Stop playing like you can't be lynched. 153 please?

vote panta

I don't even know anymore. Is spell replacing or not?

Yup. I called it (humbly): Dastrn's Stage Striking System. I basically proposed 1 stage list of 13-15-17 stages, and one stage striking process at the beginning of each set, down to 3-5-7 stages depending on if it was best of 3-5-7. Then you double blind all three games, playing 1 game on each stage.

Xastrn needs to stop posting useless things imo. It's just distracting -_-

 

[Circus]

Well, I can't wait 'til you finish reading.
Feel free to answer any questions I've posed to J that you come up on in your reading.

It might be a minute, because I'm going to eat before getting any further.

Do like Raziek and J against Xastrn. Do like T-block's suspicion of OS' ideas.

/thoughtvomit

Be back soon.

 

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So where's your head at now may I ask? You say the Panta lynch is fine so is that your strongest scum-read at this point?

After reading more carefully I'm leaning scum but it's not finite. I've never played a game with him before but I don't like how defensive he was being. Calling out OS' joke claim about Circus shows me that much. Defensive play could certainly be town but that plus the going after the easy guy in Spells makes me think bolder scum. Maybe a Joffrey Baratheon.

I'm buddy buddy with OS specifically because we are buddies outside of mafia games. And we haven't interacted much recently, so I'm excited about gaming with him.

Don't like this. Overall Xastrn seems too buddyish for my tastes and this reason is a bad one. Not feeling a specific alignment. I also hate WIFOM so that doesn't help him.

What do you think of John?

Hahaha that's not really the answer we were expecting/wanting. xD

Speak for yourself, it's the one I was expecting XD.

Dang, Raziek beat me to it. I went through each apge and counted...here's what I got.



J - IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII III

Circus - IIIII IIIII IIIII II

Overswarm - IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII II

John2k4 - IIIII III

dabuz - IIII

nabe - IIIII IIIII IIII

Xastrn - IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII II

Panta - IIIII

Spellcasters - IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII II

Red Ryu - IIIII IIIII II

T-Block - IIIII II

Solid - IIIII IIII

Frio - I

Raziek - IIIII IIIII III

Awesome, now tell us your reads and some more useful information that you found. Don't like your beating around the bush, Varys.

@Circus/Nabe/Solid: What do you think of Raz's posts directed at each of you individually?

That'd be this one:

I like his opinion on RR's gambit, but I'm unsettled that he's instantly ok with a Panta lynch.

I don't see any problem with it. My being okay with Panta's lynch 'instantly' could be unsettling, but I stand by it because his play is scummy.

None of the people I need to talk to are here.

Solid, I see the Song of Ice and Fire quote. Now, you're Robert and I'm Cersei. Which of the players in this game are you going to sleep with tonight, keeping in mind that I'll know and will actively hunt down and kill your progeny?

Quality question, I like it. I'd sleep with you to keep you close. And because you won't kill your children. Now I have a question for you: you're Robb Stark, riding into battle. Who, of the active players, do you name as castellan of Winterfell in your absence?

Overall thoughts: J and Raz are good, Nabe leaning good but need more, would like more from Overswarm and Circus before forming an opinion, Xastrn uneasy, John needs to deliver more content, don't like Panta, Frio completely null, RR leaning town, gambit was good idea but him pulling off does nothing so I don't like that, will be waiting for Spells to replace out before I can get a real read.

 

[John2k4]

Expect a post from me in the nearish future. Was out and about all day, just did a quick skim of what I missed but I'll be rereading in more detail now.

Quick thoughts: Still could go for Panta, seems to be picking a little too much on the obvious guy for my liking. Seems like he just wants an easy way out so he doesn't die. I've been in the position before but I don't like his attempt at a way out.

I'd like input from John. 274 is stupidly unspecific. Go into more detail.

Will be back with more in a bit.

Alright J, so far, here's a couple of my thoughts.

Why was Red Ryu faking the daycop, and trying to get everyone to go after Werekill?

Panta I am not sure about. Could possibly be a scapegoat.

Solid himself is starting to intrigue me, he's suddenly launching at me..

 

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ooooh I forgot T-Block. He looks priy good so far.

 

[T-block]

First things first

unvote



also, this is my 4th game, i feel like a fish in a river full of sharks



Why so quick to believe RR? The chances of this were way to slim, yet you were more than willing to go along with it.

But on the other hand, you didn't put a vote in this post




So basically, you just admitted your a bandwagoner, great to know.



Explain, were you reasons anything other than "RR copped werekill""?

If not, your also a bandwagoner with no attempt to hide it



Dislike, its too risky for town because that means that townies are also locked down because if they don't like a lynch, speaking against it will probably get them voted, and considering the likelihood of catching scum like this isn't high like you make it sound like, it is more harmful than helpful




Dislike, looks like an attempt to keep town and scum in control of one person per day, the odds of this helping scum are more than it helping town.



Please elaborate


Your overly confident in this statement, what makes you so sure werekill is not spell's scum buddy? What information do you have?



*noting the defense of spell*




*noting the vote-casting on spell*



That post by OS was seemingly a joke post IMO, but it looks like your over-reacting to it





Im surprised no one commented on this. Can you explain what about T-Block's play has led you to believe this?





So, do you feel more inclined to follow W/E overswarm says as a result?





lol, i give this comment 9/10



Isn't that a loaded question towards john? he hasn't posted much (if at all), so how can he respond when accused about why he isn't scum?

Not much of a catchup post... you ask a few questions, but have you formed any reads? We need more than just a commentary. Who are your top two scumpicks?

This is the only post I care about from Solid.

I like his opinion on RR's gambit, but I'm unsettled that he's instantly ok with a Panta lynch.

Also, regarding my vote: I don't intend to place it until I have a solid scum read. After MMX, I've decided it's in my interest to not be as loose with my vote.

What's MMX, and what happened there?

 

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John, if you read my posts, it's pretty clear that I want more input from you, and some actual elaboration. You're giving nothing.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Do like Raziek and J against Xastrn.

I thought I knew you.
Aren't you typically cautious around J?

 

[T-block]

Xastrn, just because I said it isn't indicative of alignment doesn't mean I'm going to let you get away with fluffing your post count up with posts like that, while saying that half our scum has low post count.

That's grimey, brah.

Mmhmm +1

This is the Raziek I love. Do more of this <3

RR, T-Block, I see you guys reading. I want your opinions on Xastrn and J.

I was on my phone trying to not fall too far behind fyi.

I'm finding RR actions pretty weird. He came out as a day cop day 1. If it's true he's just hoping someone will protect him over night but he hasn't taken any action to encourage his safety. Instead he just went instantly for werekill.

Unvote

Yeah, please get caught up and post your thoughts. These kinds of posts don't really do anything but show us you aren't going to be useful =P

 

[John2k4]

Alright Solid.

My two scumpicks so far would be Red and Panta.

Red was quick to fake a daycop, calling out Were. He could either be scum, trying to act like town and seem intelligible towards the vote, or he could be town, trying to throw the scum off. my gut is leaning toward scum.

Panta seems like he could be a scum scapegoat to me. They could be using him as the second lynch to cause the town to firmly pick a primary lynch, so that he does not get picked.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Quality question, I like it. I'd sleep with you to keep you close. And because you won't kill your children. Now I have a question for you: you're Robb Stark, riding into battle. Who, of the active players, do you name as castellan of Winterfell in your absence?

I'd hoped you would say that.

I would name dabuz. My first thought was OS, but he's a keen strategic mind I'd want on the road with me. dabuz is no-nonsense and sticks to principles, which is the sort of person you want holding your walls. Red Ryu would also be a good choice. J is Theon.

 

[Overswarm]

Hi OS.

Stop playing like you can't be lynched. 153 please?

I can't be lynched unless I want to be lynched. Trust me on that one.

John2k4 is town or one of the worst scum players I've ever seen. One or the other. I'd lean towards town.

You'll get more later when I'm done watching Braveheart.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

T-block, talk to me about Raz. Why is he so esteemed?

 

[Frio]

I think I should drop out then, I have 3 mid terms this week and TBH i can't keep up with this amount of posts.

 

[T-block]

I AM CAUGHT UP

Why don't you expect me to cop you? Do you only say so because you don't believe I'm the cop?

I'm pretty sure you're the one being abnormally abrasive here, no?

J, where are you? You should be here 24/7 to respond to me immediately.

T-block, I suspect you of being town. Do you deny it?
This is a super-serious question despite what you might think.

Guilty as charged. Did you have a point to this question or are you throwing out crap just because?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Well, that goes an alarming amount of the way to proving my point.

 

[Circus]

I thought I knew you.
Aren't you typically cautious around J?

And we've seen how well that has worked out before.

 

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I'd hoped you would say that.

I would name dabuz. My first thought was OS, but he's a keen strategic mind I'd want on the road with me. dabuz is no-nonsense and sticks to principles, which is the sort of person you want holding your walls. Red Ryu would also be a good choice. J is Theon.

Interesting choice. Elaborate on why J is Theon.

Red was quick to fake a daycop, calling out Were. He could either be scum, trying to act like town and seem intelligible towards the vote, or he could be town, trying to throw the scum off. my gut is leaning toward scum.

Do you think his gambit was wise? Isn't the job of all scum to act like town? Elaborate on how he'd be 'throwing scum off' when scum already knows the alignment of everyone (barring indie/multiple factions) in the game. I think you can do better than that.

Panta seems like he could be a scum scapegoat to me. They could be using him as the second lynch to cause the town to firmly pick a primary lynch, so that he does not get picked.

Overswarm originally placed Panta as the fallback lynch. Since it is your theory that Panta is the 'scapegoat', put in place by scum as the second lynch, do you think Overswarm is scum?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

So you're making a conscious effort not to be paranoid about J?

 

[T-block]

T-block, talk to me about Raz. Why is he so esteemed?

Because he's pretty much the greatest guy. Pretty cute too.

He never does much D1, but he definitely has the logic and analytical abilities to catch scum later in the game. His past town play I would label as weak only because of inactivity. So far, it looks like he'll actually be playing this game, so I'm looking forward to playing with him.

As far as this game is concerned, I find myself agreeing with a lot of what he says, which I like.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

That was @Circus of course.

Interesting choice. Elaborate on why J is Theon.

J can be a good friend, and intelligent, and often you want him on your side. But sometimes he'll take that trust and smack you in the face with it. Case and point, Circus has had a run-in with betrayer!Jscum before.