Majoras Mask Mafia! DGames' Longest Game Ends - Who Won?!?!?!?

[Xastrn]

Call me heartless if you want, but if Spell doesn't really know how to play he should probably replace out. >_>

I'll nitpick to prove a point: if he doesn't really know how to play, which faction does his resulting play favor most?

 

[John2k4]

I don't remember reading about an experience requirement when going through the signup thread...might have just been a suggested "Have played a couple games before".

 

[Xastrn]

@John2k4, I see you lurking.

Are you scum?
If not, why not and who is?

 

[Dabuz]

First things first

unvote



also, this is my 4th game, i feel like a fish in a river full of sharks

Cool. Panta and Spells are obvscum and Ryu bingo'd Werekill already. Case closed.

Why so quick to believe RR? The chances of this were way to slim, yet you were more than willing to go along with it.

But on the other hand, you didn't put a vote in this post

But still, you're believing him solely because public opinion seems to swing that way, correct?[/QUOTE} yes that is correct

So basically, you just admitted your a bandwagoner, great to know.

Unvote

Vote: Werekill

Yep. I have reasons now.

Explain, were you reasons anything other than "RR copped werekill""?

If not, your also a bandwagoner with no attempt to hide it

This is advantageous to town in that we can decidedly know that, because only scum would know the alignment of someone unless they were investigated or cleared, so anyone going deliberately towards a no lynch situation under the guise of "I don't really like this lynch, let's go after the other guy instead" will be put under heavy scrutiny. Meaning, coasting in this game will be incredibly scummy because not acting or participating is a direct actions towards the lynch of our fallback lynch. For today, that's Panta. For similar reasons, those that do the opposite and rally against killing the fallback lynch are just as scummy, especially if that fallback lynch eventually flips as mafia. This gives scum a game they have to play; because we have a fallback lynch that may or may not be scum, in certain situations they'll be forced to actually "play" or otherwise leave a visible trail. But playing also leaves a visible trail.

Dislike, its too risky for town because that means that townies are also locked down because if they don't like a lynch, speaking against it will probably get them voted, and considering the likelihood of catching scum like this isn't high like you make it sound like, it is more harmful than helpful

Anyone who disagrees with this policy will receive my constant scrutiny in a very, very, very annoying fashion. I will be consistent.

I will not be the "king" who chooses the fallback lynch for tomorrow. I nominate J to be the "king" for tomorrow, and he can tell us who our fallback lynch is at the end of the day. It can be anyone in the game. J must post his reasoning of his fallback lynch as well.

Dislike, looks like an attempt to keep town and scum in control of one person per day, the odds of this helping scum are more than it helping town.

Whoa man that was a long 8 pages to read through. I've only played 5-10 forum mafias before but I've played a lot in real life. So far I'm thinking Panta and spellcasters are scum, so for now VOTE: Panta

Please elaborate

Shows that he does not believe Ryu is telling the truth because Werekill is not Spell's scumbuddy and therefore Spell knows Ryu isn't the truth.

Your overly confident in this statement, what makes you so sure werekill is not spell's scum buddy? What information do you have?

Daytalk obviously influenced this because Spell is sticking out like a sore thumb not believing a daycop result.

*noting the defense of spell*

Unvote:
vote: Spellcasters

*noting the vote-casting on spell*

Ambivalent about Overswarm, especially with this post. He already stated that RVS was Over with his kingmaker situation, yet he goes and says he is the daycop with an innocent on Circus?

That post by OS was seemingly a joke post IMO, but it looks like your over-reacting to it

He states that he does not like the whole premise of a backup lynch, but goes on to say that I am a good choice for a lynch anyway. Unless I misread Overswarm's post (entirely possible) I am not supposed to be the primary lynch unless we cannot decide on another person. Tblock looks like he is sitting in the middle of the road on the issue and parking his vote on me for later when he knows that the scumteam can create enough muck to prevent the town from forming a lynch and forcing them to revert to the backup lynch of a townie (me).

Im surprised no one commented on this. Can you explain what about T-Block's play has led you to believe this?

Cause we're gay lovers. I just want everyone to know about it.

I'm buddy buddy with OS specifically because we are buddies outside of mafia games. And we haven't interacted much recently, so I'm excited about gaming with him.

So, do you feel more inclined to follow W/E overswarm says as a result?

I was asked why I asked for meta. I answered my real reason: I need info on people, and I don't have any yet, other than what I've been able to read in this game. Many of you in this game have played with everyone else in the game.

that gif reminds me of arguing with inui in the BBR a few years ago. ick.

lol, i give this comment 9/10

I haven't backed up my case with a vote yet for several reasons. #1 I told john2k that my vote would be on him until I had a reason otherwise. While it was a joke vote, I'll follow through on what I said and let john2k post why he is not scum and why someone else is, and then I'll keep it or move it accordingly. #2 I don't feel like we are anywhere close to a lynch and I don't often toss my votes at whoever is the scummiest player of the moment.

Isn't that a loaded question towards john? he hasn't posted much (if at all), so how can he respond when accused about why he isn't scum?

 

[Raziek]

I'll nitpick to prove a point: if he doesn't really know how to play, which faction does his resulting play favor most?

That depends entirely on his alignment.

If he's scum, it favors Town. If he's Town, it favors scum.

 

[John2k4]

@John2k4, I see you lurking.

Are you scum?
If not, why not and who is?

Not trying to lurk, I'm trying to prevent this thread from getting like 100 replies the second I look away, and then I have to go back and figure out where I left off.

 

[#HBC | J]

So spell are you replacing out or are you just saying you can be replaced?

 

[spellcasters]

So spell are you replacing out or are you just saying you can be replaced?

yes I am replacing out unless mod doesn't want me to

 

[Raziek]

I'm not trying to be rude, Spell, but you just seem to be in over your head. It might be worth your while to play in one of our newbie games before you do one of these.

 

[#HBC | J]

@Mod: Request Vote-Count please.

And that's sad I guess Spell but if that's what you wanna do, it's better to replace out earlier rather than later. *agree with Raz's ninja statement*

John, let us know when you are caught up and we'd like some thoughts as well.

 

[spellcasters]

I'm not trying to be rude, Spell, but you just seem to be in over your head. It might be worth your while to play in one of our newbie games before you do one of these.

No you don't seam rude at all actually you seam pretty nice. I agree that I am in over my head.

 

[#HBC | J]

Raz, can you give me an opinion on Dabuz's first real post?

 

[Xastrn]

That depends entirely on his alignment.

If he's scum, it favors Town. If he's Town, it favors scum.

Would you agree therefore, that he's either scum or favoring scum?

see what I'm saying?

So, do you feel more inclined to follow W/E overswarm says as a result?

Yes. On account of the gay.

lol, i give this comment 9/10

At first I was going to type *takes a bow* but then I thought it'd be funny to post an ace attorney bowing pic like inui used to always do, but then I threw up a little and decided to do neither.

Not trying to lurk, I'm trying to prevent this thread from getting like 100 replies the second I look away, and then I have to go back and figure out where I left off.

oh hey, i just noticed you're from arizona. I lived out there in 08-09. I used to play with JustinKamikaze and duff0 and the whole tempe crew (chris and bryce and i forget who else) oh and saffy and a couple other people. Oh bloodhawk.

 

[#HBC | J]

Would you agree therefore, that he's either scum or favoring scum?

see what I'm saying?

I really dislike how you keep on trying to insinuate that the Spell lynch is the best way to go so early. What are you planning to do now that he is replacing out?

 

[Xastrn]

you seam pretty nice.

Raziek's day job:

 

[John2k4]

Arizona's a nice place.

@J - What're you looking to know?

 

[Raziek]

I see what you're saying Xastrn, but as is already clear, I'd rather he replace out than us have to use a lynch on him.

@J: There's a good amount of fluff in there, and he's not yet caught up on current events. No actual reads given from it by him. About the only thing I like about it if his last question towards Xastrn.

@Xastrn: I actually work at Costco.

 

[#HBC | J]

@J - What're you looking to know?

Scum-picks, who ya liking/who you aren't, where you most likely will be voting, and your thoughts on current situations like OS's Panta idea, me + Raz + Dastrn situation, and the spell thingy.

 

[John2k4]

I'll get to you on that in just a bit, I'm re-reading everything and trying to get a good comprehension.

 

[Xastrn]

I really dislike how you keep on trying to insinuate that the Spell lynch is the best way to go so early. What are you planning to do now that he is replacing out?

Keep playing without him?

I don't have a master plan all sorted out. It's day 1. I'll keep analyzing what I'm reading, and look for good opportunities to ask a lot of questions. When we have a good pro-town lynch candidate (meaning the lynch is pro-town, not the candidate) then I'll make my case and see what happens.

Also, I didn't want to lynch him FAST, if that's what you mean by early. But he was the right play to put pressure on when I did, and it's working out well. If he replaces out, maybe someone will come in with a bit more experience and fill his spot and then we won't have to worry about anti-town behavior. I'm completely happy with the results of my early pressure on spell.

 

[#HBC | J]

@J: There's a good amount of fluff in there, and he's not yet caught up on current events. No actual reads given from it by him. About the only thing I like about it if his last question towards Xastrn.

What do you think about the way he is talking to Circus, John, OS, Panta? I agree, however, the post is pretty null.

 

[John2k4]

Get the pressure on early, try to cause a panic and possibly a slip-up...

 

[#HBC | J]

*What are you planning to to, by that I mean, who are you planning to look at thus far?

 

[#HBC | J]

I'll get to you on that in just a bit, I'm re-reading everything and trying to get a good comprehension.

Alrighty, well thanks. ^^

 

[John2k4]

J, just finished Page 3.

As for Mafia Games I've done in the past, I've only done a couple, and they've been in a slightly different format than the ones here, but I feel comfortable so far.

 

[Xastrn]

More seriously, No, I don't intend to follow everything OS says/does. I just got behind an idea early because I saw the merit, and I've had way too many mafia games ruined by inactivity. J, you'll remember our first game together, you were very inactive through day 2 into day 3, and i called for your lynch several times, only to eventually save you from a mislynch when you were our doc. In my very next game, which I think was the other majora's mask game, I immediately voted you because you were inactive in the other game but joined another.

seriously, I hate inactivity in these games.

OS I have an assignment for you. Pick a cutoff post: (this one will work just fine) and count everyone's posts from the first post of the game starting until this one.

If anyone does this before OS, then I'll send you a chocolate in the mail.

 

[Raziek]

Well, Kantrip is lined up, and while relatively new, he played well in Disco Mafia 3, so I'd be happy to see him in.

@J: His thoughts on OS's idea more or less sit well with mine, so that doesn't bother me much.

I find his choosing Circus to focus on somewhat unusual, given that Circus hasn't said much.

Oh, it does bother me that Dabuz played the newb card in that post, though. Dabuz has played enough games to know what's going on, regardless of the experience level of the other players.

 

[#HBC | J]

I was the cop and I was inactive in D1 cuz my laptop was broken. =P I remember because Cello *shiver*.

Your very next game was Villains in which you and Gord decided that you were gonna vote me and use that ruse that I was inactive to be the D1 lynch-bus.

Its hilariously ironic that you bring up the inactivity card on me nowadays. xP

@John: Keep at it haha.

@Raz: Thanks, I think it's weird that he choose to focus on Circus too cuz I didn't take it the way he did. Also I didn't think he pulled the newb card. Can you show me where?

 

[Raziek]

@Xastrn:
J 34
Xastrn 31
Overswarm 24
spellcasters 22
Circus 20
Raziek 15
Nabe 15
Red Ryu 15
¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯ 9
John2k4 9
T-block 7
Panta 6
dabuz 5
X1-12 5
Soupamario 3
Asdioh 2
Gheb_01 2
Ryker 1
th3kuzinator 1
Frio 1

Just subtract the posts that occurred prior to the game starting and you have an accurate count.

 

[Raziek]

@Raz: Thanks, I think it's weird that he choose to focus on Circus too cuz I didn't take it the way he did. Also I didn't think he pulled the newb card. Can you show me where?

also, this is my 4th game, i feel like a fish in a river full of sharks

10characters

 

[#HBC | J]

Ooooooooh, I took that more as a joke then pulling the newb card but I gotcha.

 

[Raziek]

Dabuz has enough experience to not have to say that, which is why it stuck out to me.

 

[#HBC | J]

Dabuz has enough experience to not have to say that, which is why it stuck out to me.

Well is it scummy or more that you are leaning a bit more cautious of him because of it?

 

[Raziek]

Caution. It's a red flag, since I don't want to see him hiding behind it, but it's not inherently scummy to me.

 

[#HBC | J]

Caution. It's a red flag, since I don't want to see him hiding behind it, but it's not inherently scummy to me.

Alright thanks.

Now can I get your opinion on people like Circus/Nabe/Solid who have posts but are a bit more quiet?

Another thing, could you possibly give me some insight into where you would like your vote?

 

[John2k4]

Dang, Raziek beat me to it. I went through each apge and counted...here's what I got.



J - IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII III

Circus - IIIII IIIII IIIII II

Overswarm - IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII II

John2k4 - IIIII III

dabuz - IIII

nabe - IIIII IIIII IIII

Xastrn - IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII II

Panta - IIIII

Spellcasters - IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII II

Red Ryu - IIIII IIIII II

T-Block - IIIII II

Solid - IIIII IIII

Frio - I

Raziek - IIIII IIIII III

 

[Raziek]

Excluding RVS posts....

Waitwaitwait. Ryu wasn't bull****ting the daycop claim? Well that's...not at all what I was expecting.

Ryu, nameclaim please.

Werekill, get the hell in here.

Errbody stop voting for Werekill until we get a votecount. We're not hammering anyone yet, regardless of what anyone claims to "know" right now.

In the meantime, catching up.

Frio, IGMEOY so hard.

Red sticks out to me. Why would he have such an eye on Frio, who has made a grand total of one post? Additionally, why only a nameclaim? Granted, he'd already claimed his role, but I would personally want a full-claim if I actually believed it.

Because his claim was shaky at face value. And if he had been telling the truth, then knowing his character may have helped to illuminate the likelihood of him being sane or insane.

Better question: Why would you claim daycop now, when doing so is totally unnecessary and unhelpful?

Another good question: Why would you choose me to investigate? I'm not all that difficult to read.

One more: Why would a daycop use his or her ability immediately when the Day starts? Why not wait and do some general scumhunting before deciding on a target?

These questions seem odd. Why is Circus asking hypotheticals based on what he knows at this point is a gambit?

Red also sits poorly with me.

Will get to Nabe and Solid next.

 

[Raziek]

Nabe essentially has no posts outside of RVS except this one. His RVS had unusually heavy focus on Circus, though.

@J: Compare and contrast 130 (T-block) and 132 (Xastrn). Get back to me.

Man, does anyone remember my cop gambit in Bingo on Gorf/Kuz? So badass.

If he doesn't actually address your response to this, I'd be worried.

 

[John2k4]

So far, I'm starting to wonder about Red Ryu - his first post was daycopping then going for Werekill...

 

[Raziek]

This is the only post I care about from Solid.

So trusting? Nah, I was just looking to see where the wagon went. It turned out basically nowhere because Werekill didn't post and RR said he was fakeclaiming and kind of screwed that up. Besides, you're comparing apples and oranges. Believing a claim and not believing your counting skills are two different things. Main reason I didn't want to believe your count isn't because I believed you'd be 'tricking' me but rather because you could've flat out miscounted. Considering this wagon fizzled out before a Werekill rebuttal, not as much was gained as could have been. I don't understand why RR just backed off while being under no pressure aside from OS' post.

I don't really have a stance on the fallback lynch yet and I've never played a game like that, but Panta lynch toDay is fine so I'll go with it and see how I feel as it plays out.

I like his opinion on RR's gambit, but I'm unsettled that he's instantly ok with a Panta lynch.

Also, regarding my vote: I don't intend to place it until I have a solid scum read. After MMX, I've decided it's in my interest to not be as loose with my vote.