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Majoras Mask Mafia! DGames' Longest Game Ends - Who Won?!?!?!?

#HBC | Nabe

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Because he's pretty much the greatest guy. Pretty cute too.

He never does much D1, but he definitely has the logic and analytical abilities to catch scum later in the game. His past town play I would label as weak only because of inactivity. So far, it looks like he'll actually be playing this game, so I'm looking forward to playing with him.

As far as this game is concerned, I find myself agreeing with a lot of what he says, which I like.
He was very suave in RE4. I'd like to get along with him.

I haven't seen any post of his in this game that I've liked.
 

Circus

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Why so quick to believe RR? The chances of this were way to slim, yet you were more than willing to go along with it.

But on the other hand, you didn't put a vote in this post
I didn't believe RR. And I didn't think anyone else did either. I was just ****ing around.

My vote hasn't changed from my RVS vote on John because I haven't had a legitimate reason to do anything with it. It might be moving soon, though posts like John's 236 aren't exactly putting me in a hurry to switch to someone else.
 

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Is it just me, or did Nabe claim cop? I'm massively tired and can't tell.

Also, Vote: RR. The guy fakeclaimed for no reason against a townie (me) who hadn't even posted yet. >_>
 

Circus

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Excluding RVS posts....

Red sticks out to me. Why would he have such an eye on Frio, who has made a grand total of one post?
Because Frio's one post smacks of follow-the-town scum blending.

Additionally, why only a nameclaim? Granted, he'd already claimed his role, but I would personally want a full-claim if I actually believed it.
I don't see the difference. I was asking for a name claim in order to complete his fullclaim.

These questions seem odd. Why is Circus asking hypotheticals based on what he knows at this point is a gambit?

Red also sits poorly with me.
Because OS gambitting in that way right after Ryu did is not good. I'm unsure if OS was strictly joking around or if he legitimately wanted to try to fake a daycop claim, but it wouldn't have been a totally bad plan for OScum to try. Thanks to Ryu's gambit, OS knew he wouldn't get CC'd if he claimed dayvig, and claiming a clear on me was a decent way to try to buddy me.

Now, I don't think OS is actually dumb enough to try to get away with that, normally, but I think he might think that this town is dumb enough to fall for it. And even if he was kidding, what's the benefit of keeping the joke going? Especially coming from OS specifically, who has previously declared quite clearly that...

RVS is now officially over.
My hypothetical questions came out of my doubts about OS, is what I'm saying.

You can be worried about the red if you want to be. I'm just being honest.
 

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Circus

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I'm actually super cool with John being the play toDay.
 

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It's alright, nothing to be concerned about. Just trying to further my information.
 

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Is it just me, or did Nabe claim cop? I'm massively tired and can't tell.

Also, Vote: RR. The guy fakeclaimed for no reason against a townie (me) who hadn't even posted yet. >_>
I see that as mostly a null tell on RR. I don't see why a townie couldn't try a play like that to get a read on people. I thought it was obvious to almost everyone in the game that it was a fake claim just to get conversation going. Doesn't mean he's on either faction. If anything, it might be a slight town-tell.

His timing on backing off was poor, but that was just poor playing, not scummy playing, if you ask me.
 

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I see that as mostly a null tell on RR. I don't see why a townie couldn't try a play like that to get a read on people. I thought it was obvious to almost everyone in the game that it was a fake claim just to get conversation going. Doesn't mean he's on either faction. If anything, it might be a slight town-tell.

His timing on backing off was poor, but that was just poor playing, not scummy playing, if you ask me.

My bad. told you that would happen.
 

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Votecount 2 - [8/15] - Deadline 11th October

Raziek [0]
T-Block [0]
Overswarm [0]
Xastrn [1] - J
Solid [0]
Panta [2] - T-Block, Spellcasters
Red Ryu [2] - OS, Werekill
dabuz [0]
Nabe [0]
Circus [1] - Nabe
Werekill [3] - RR, John2k4, Solid
John2k4 [2] - Circus, Xastrn
spellcasters [1] - Panta
J [0]
Frio [0]

Not Voting [3] - Raziek, Dabuz, Frio
 

Circus

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My hair is perfect. No one's in it.

He's scum.
 

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So you don't think getting reads on people who were on or off the bandwagon, plus your reaction to the wagon (which didn't work because RR backed off and you weren't here) should be considered benefits? This is D1 of a Mafia game, what's more beneficial than information, pray tell? Werekill acting waaaay too defensive and accusatory regarding the RR issue, do not like that.
 

#HBC | J

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I'm all read up but getting to the posts now but just one thing:

Nabe, as I was reading you had me laughing really hard so thanks for that. XD
 

#HBC | Nabe

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I mainly just don't like that he started a wagon on someone who wasn't even a presence in any way. Information isn't a problem; crappy info an bad play is another.

And I can't be defensive when I had a huge wagon against me when I wasn't even here yet?
 

#HBC | Nabe

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Nabe, I've never played a game of Mafia with you before (I think?). Based upon my posts so far in this game, if we lived in Westeros, who would I be?
I'm not sure. Give me a little more time on this, and remind me at the end of the day.
I'm all read up but getting to the posts now but just one thing:

Nabe, as I was reading you had me laughing really hard so thanks for that. XD
No problem. I'm pretty hilarious, so it wasn't a lot of work.
 

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What's MMX, and what happened there?
MMX is an ongoing game, so I can't say much, but I was Town, and erractic voting patterns contributed to my lynch. As such, I'm taking that in mind and not being to "wagon-jumpy" with my votes.

Nabe, your opinion on Overswarm?
 

#HBC | Nabe

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So you don't think getting reads on people who were on or off the bandwagon, plus your reaction to the wagon (which didn't work because RR backed off and you weren't here) should be considered benefits? This is D1 of a Mafia game, what's more beneficial than information, pray tell? Werekill acting waaaay too defensive and accusatory regarding the RR issue, do not like that.
I mainly just don't like that he started a wagon on someone who wasn't even a presence in any way. Information isn't a problem; crappy info an bad play is another.

And I can't be defensive when I had a huge wagon against me when I wasn't even here yet?
You were at L-1, so IMO being defensive is totally merited. But you haven't answered Solid's question -- does information not have merit? Is it that you doubt that RR got any information from the wagon? Or do you not see any potential benefits at all?
 

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Because he's pretty much the greatest guy. Pretty cute too.

He never does much D1, but he definitely has the logic and analytical abilities to catch scum later in the game. His past town play I would label as weak only because of inactivity. So far, it looks like he'll actually be playing this game, so I'm looking forward to playing with him.

As far as this game is concerned, I find myself agreeing with a lot of what he says, which I like.
This is pretty spot on.

My activity wasn't as high as I would have liked during the summer due to work. I thought I would have more time, but ended up having less.

T-Block and I have worked well together in the past, so we like to be able to trust each other.
 

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Though, I am trying to work on my Day 1 play. I always seem to die before I can be useful. :l
 

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I'm not sure. Give me a little more time on this, and remind me at the end of the day./QUOTE]

Will do.

You were at L-1, so IMO being defensive is totally merited.
Ah, I forgot about that. In any case, he's not at L-1 now (and I never actually voted for him so technically he shouldn't have been at L-1 but I should've made that more clear) so I'm still a bit skeptical.

That reminds me: Unvote: Vote John2k4 you need to start posting content and stop coasting, scum.

I mainly just don't like that he started a wagon on someone who wasn't even a presence in any way. Information isn't a problem; crappy info an bad play is another.
So you don't think a read on a wagon is good information? Why's that?

Also answer this please:

Nabe said:
But you haven't answered Solid's question -- does information not have merit? Is it that you doubt that RR got any information from the wagon? Or do you not see any potential benefits at all?[/B]
 

#HBC | J

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Circus, I have one question for you at the moment while I'm typing up my other post. Are you serious about this John thing? ;)
 

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@mod, I believe my vote is on spellcasters as of post #62.

The below is from post #117 onwards, where RVS ended per my declaration. It does not include post #116.

This data mining will continue for some time. I'm interested in what we learn from it. Ignore it if you will, but at the very least use it to see who is hiding under the radar and who someone is really interested in.

Things I'm looking at:

Who people reference (directly or indirectly)
who people proclaim as scummy or town (directly or indirectly)
Who people vote for

When I say "reference", this includes replying to someone's question or asking them a question, responding to a statement they've made, commenting on that player, etc. It's a very loose concept here and expect these numbers to be inflated, although if someone simply says "OS" three times in one post it'll still only count as one.

When I say "proclaim scummy or town", this is not as loose a concept and this should be taken more seriously.

When I say vote, I mean only voting for someone; not unvoting. You guys can keep track of that yourself.


For those playing the home game, this is more a less three tiers of the same idea. Those you reference you don't necessarily have a strong opinion on, those you proclaim scummy or town you may have an opinion on but not necessarily a case, and those you vote for you should have your strongest read on.

Scum often can blend in because they do the above three out of sequence. They'll vote for someone before they have an actual case, force them to defend themselves, and THEN proclaim them as scummy based off their defense. Scum can often set up bad lynches by planting seeds of distrust as well; constantly calling someone into question on a repeated basis or asking them pointed questions can lower the opinion of that player to the rest of town, ultimately leading in other people pushing a lynch. And, as always, scum can often blend in by simply not pursuing people but rather constantly feeling the waters and referencing many but not taking hard stances and going towards the path of least resistance.

If you see someone who is directly avoiding others, take note. If you see a discrepancy in their voting patterns in comparison to their proclaimed "town or scum" notions of other players, take note. If you see someone consistently referencing another player but not pursuing them aggressively, take note.
If you see everyone else fitting the mold (like referencing RRyu claiming DCop) but someone else completely avoiding it in all their posts, take note. If you notice that someone has only made a passing reference to another player and not done anything else, look into it.

I'll happily let scum attempt to juggle this.

Keep in mind by the way, I'm not interpreting posts. So sarcasm is lost on graphs.

Anyway, here's what we have so far:

Calls Scummy:


Calls town:


Votes:


References (take note of the empty boxes):


References in graph form for you visual people:








Points I'd like addressed, other than people filling in the blank spaces on that excel sheet.

Waitwaitwait. Ryu wasn't bull****ting the daycop claim? Well that's...not at all what I was expecting.

Ryu, nameclaim please.

Werekill, get the hell in here.

Errbody stop voting for Werekill until we get a votecount. We're not hammering anyone yet, regardless of what anyone claims to "know" right now.

In the meantime, catching up.

Frio, IGMEOY so hard.
What prompted you to say "Wait, Ryu wasn't bsing about the daycop claim"?


only once, in oddworld, as far as I remember. That was 1 year ago.
I haven't seen him since the game started because he works for me all day Friday-Sunday. I've been operating solo since the game started. I haven't hydra'd since that oddworld game, so I just remembered how fun it was to sit together for a few hours and reread the thread and bounce reads off of each other.

<real life tag>
xatres is my younger brother. not sure if that's common knowledge. during oddworld, he actually lived in my house. he's got his own place now, but still works for me.
</real life tag>
ANOTHER RICE?!

Tell him I'm sorry about Megaman. :B


Post #236 is John posting how many times people have posted in roman numerals. This is prior to posting his reads, which he has been asked for. Someone daykill him?

Raziek240 said:
Also, regarding my vote: I don't intend to place it until I have a solid scum read. After MMX, I've decided it's in my interest to not be as loose with my vote.
Good, you've learned! Being loose with your vote creates a trail that may be true or false, but either way can be openly interpreted. If it makes you feel any better, you were more a victim of circumstance and that was the short straw you created for yourself.

nabe said:
Raziek is a player I have trouble figuring out. His posts consistently appear scummy to me, and in this game in particular he's only spoken when spoken to. I can't get inside his head. Aside from RE4 I can't think of any time I haven't thought he was scum and had him actually be town.
It's the avatar.




Personal notes and guesses:

J and Xastrn isn't S/S


More will occur later. Interpret the above as you will.

vote: Solid
 

Overswarm

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I'm familiar with the trend myself.

But that's your response to the above? Seriously?
 
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