Majoras Mask Mafia! DGames' Longest Game Ends - Who Won?!?!?!?

[Xastrn]

I took the last few hours away from the keyboard to meet with a developer friend...details don't matter.

I like the general flow of today's actions.

OS, i like your spreadsheet. I wish you were in the broom so you could understand how much I like spreadsheets in mafia games. it's become a meme back there.

I need to reread the last 3 pages or so to get a better feel on this sudden circus wagon. I still don't want to unvote my joke vote because I still want John2k to do SOMETHING.

Also, Frio. There, I said his name. The last player i haven't interacted with.

**** did it again.

i'm tired. sorry.

 

[Raziek]

Bedtime for me. I hope to see something from Circus and Frio tomorrow.

 

[Frio]

It's late here so I'll just comment on OS and T-block. I'll try to comment on the rest later.

Overswarm- Tbh this guy is confusing the hell out of me. He's obvs trying to take a lead role. However, I don't know if he's trying to help the town or trying to take out town people. I have a feeling that he might be using all his in-depth data like his graphs to create the illusion that he's on our side. Or he could be just a really good and organized player. The one thing that bothered me the most is his randomly generated lynch list. It seems like another good way to aim for more innocent people.

T-Block- This guy has a GPA of 4.0 and I can't honestly trust him too much >_>. He's really good at wording things out to strengthen his argument. However, that fact that he took my side when circus attacked me makes me believe he's not scum.

 

[Frio]

Also the way circus went for me after I barely said anything gives me more reason to think he's scum.

 

[T-block]

Frio you are too cute. It's like you're scared I'm gonna jump out of a closet and leave you FROZEN IN FEAR lol

Be careful about calling those who attack you scum and those who defend you town though. You'll be manipulated pretty easily.

I asked you a question in 130 btw.

@Solid: Has Frio moved from null for you yet?

 

[T-block]

Cool, Werekill's here.

@Werekill: When you're caught up, can you give me your thoughts on Panta, spellcasters, and Frio? What do you think of the Circus wagon that's forming?

 

[John2k4]

Circus, can you please share what you find about me to be definitive "scum"? From what I've seen, you just had a quick beginning vote, possibly influenced by my lack of early posts. Since then, you have been steadfast in that I am scum...posting without hesitation. I still haven't gotten a full explanation as to why.

Circus seems a bit too quick on the "SCUM!" draw...

Vote: Circus

 

[Circus]

Holy ****. Frio and John, being opportunistic as all get out right now. So scummy. SO GODDAMN SCUMMY.

I've gotta get to bed, but I'll try to get to some of this **** now.

Seriously though, someone else please tell me they've got their eyes on those two. Like, holy ****.

 

[Circus]

John, you're way to focused on yourself. Huge scum redflag. And you're inflating how much I've been on you by a lot. You're paranoid scum.

 

[John2k4]

Not trying to be paranoid, if that's how I'm coming off to you...I'm just noticing what other have noticed, in that you are seriously attacked to labeling me scum all of the sudden.

 

[Circus]

Probably Super Heroes? I wouldn't worry about it.
Question still stands.

Not really interested in being your Watson right now. I'll be my own Sherlock if that's cool with you.

But this exchange implies that you're doing it consciously.

I suppose. I guess where I take issue is that this is not really something I'm worried about. I'm trying not to be paranoid, but I also just feel more comfortable with J after Pulp Fiction anyway. So, it's not like it's hard. J's not really of very much concern to me right now.

I mainly just don't like that he started a wagon on someone who wasn't even a presence in any way. Information isn't a problem; crappy info an bad play is another.

And I can't be defensive when I had a huge wagon against me when I wasn't even here yet?

Considering the fact that the wagon on you was already basically dead by the time you got here, and that you were never going to get lynched on it anyway, it could be argued that you're being too defensive.

Circus, I have one question for you at the moment while I'm typing up my other post. Are you serious about this John thing?

Pretty serious. I'm going to try not to tunnel; it's only a couple days into the Day. But I think he's acting really scummy.

What prompted you to say "Wait, Ryu wasn't bsing about the daycop claim"?

I initially assumed he was kidding. Not gambiting, but just joking in RVS and maybe hoping to get a read out of it if anyone was dumb enough to fall for it. Then he kept pushing his claim like it was real, and that made me confused.

Why may I ask? =P

Because I agree with what you said.

Circus, tell me why you think I have this suspicion.

I genuinely don't know. From my perspective, I'm pretty obvtown. Maybe you're trying to pay me back for Pulp Fiction, but you don't strike me as that petty.

I'll just wait here for Raziek to get at me for trying to meta myself.

Well, my primary issue is because Circus has been quietly buddying most of the more vocal Town players. (in this case, Nabe, You, and Myself) That's largely why I was glad you wanted to move that direction. It's also one of the things I took note of from OS's charts. Circus has called you and only you Town.

I don't recall calling J town. I recall verablizing my like for one of his posts.

You can call it buddying if you want, but I think we both know how subjective that interpretation is. Calling that a scumtell—in fact, your primary reason for your suspicion—is weak. By that logic, you've been buddying just as much.

There are plenty of people that I currently consider pretty strongly leaning town, whom I haven't even discussed.

This post in particular. If this is thoughtvomit, why make it so obvious that he's trying to slide under our radar?

I'm...not trying to "slide" under anyone's radar. What are you talking about? I actually don't know what point you're trying to make here at all.

This feels pretty fake to me. It was pretty clear that OS wasn't gambitting, so I don't like that he's expressing false suspicion on him. On top of that, he's brushing off my suspicion at that point instead of giving a decent explanation.

Assuming facts not in evidence. I'm wary of OS because he's OS. That you think my concern with him is fake is your own problem.

If it seems like I'm brushing off your suspicion of me, it's probably because I think you're suspicion of me is super, super dumb.

His focus on John is also unsettling. I don't particularly care for John, but I wouldn't go as far as to say "He's the play." Same goes for Frio, though that's less of an issue at this point.

I'll get to them in a bit. But I guess something that would be helpful to know about me is that I like using language like this. I like being blunt and sometimes pretty abrasive even when I only have a slight read on someone. I think pushing people's buttons is useful. So yeah, I'm going to call people scum even when I'm not sure they're scum. I'm going to say things like "he's the play" even if I'm actually open to, like, half the roster for the actual lynch at the end of the Day. Don't get hung up on how adamant my push is; just pay attention to who and why I'm pushing.

Or keep drilling where there is no oil. That's another option.

I didn't even realize that circus was attacking me >_>
Vote: Circus
I'm voting for him for pretty much what T-block said.

You.
Are.
Scum.

Also the way circus went for me after I barely said anything gives me more reason to think he's scum.

So you're OMGUS-ing me. Your vote on me doesn't look as innocent as you seem to think it does.

Also, I've hardly actually gone after you so far. You're full of ****. You're piggybacking someone else's opinion and joining a wagon you think is safe. Nothing you've said this entire game rings sincere to me at all. You're not thinking for yourself and you're not thinking critically at all. You're telling town what you think they want to hear, or what you think you'll be able to get away with saying without anybody looking at you too hard for it.

John, I'll make a new post for you.

 

[Circus]

Actually John, that post might have to wait a few hours, because I need to get to bed. Just sweat it out for a bit.

 

[X1-12]

Votecount 3 - [8/15] - Deadline 11th October

Raziek [0]
T-Block [0]
Overswarm [0]
Xastrn [0]
Solid [1] - OS
Panta [2] - T-Block, Spellcasters
Red Ryu [1] - Werekill
dabuz [0]
Nabe [0]
Circus [5] - Nabe, J, Raziek, Frio, John2k4
Werekill [1] - RR
John2k4 [3] - Circus, Xastrn, Solid
spellcasters [1] - Panta
J [0]
Frio [1] - MOD

Not Voting [1] - Dabuz

Spellcasters has requested replacement! Contacting Kantrip

Frio edited post #403 and thus receives a MOD vote until Day end! Do not edit posts!

 

[#HBC | J]

I genuinely don't know. From my perspective, I'm pretty obvtown. Maybe you're trying to pay me back for Pulp Fiction, but you don't strike me as that petty.

This made me smile yet stunned at the same time. I already got my "pay back" if you wanna call it that in another game and that's just a really silly reason to think I am going after you. Obvtown? Nooooot seeing it Circus-duder.

Circus seems a bit too quick on the "SCUM!" draw...

John actually does have a point with this Circus because so far, it's true.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Circus, can you please share what you find about me to be definitive "scum"? From what I've seen, you just had a quick beginning vote, possibly influenced by my lack of early posts. Since then, you have been steadfast in that I am scum...posting without hesitation. I still haven't gotten a full explanation as to why.

Circus seems a bit too quick on the "SCUM!" draw...

Vote: Circus

John, while I agree Circus may be quick to act, can you explain your vote? It seems like blatant OMGUS and bandwagoning to me, same with Frio.

@Solid: Has Frio moved from null for you yet?

Yeah, I'm not liking him. Especially this post:

I didn't even realize that circus was attacking me >_>
Vote: Circus
I'm voting for him for pretty much what T-block said.

What this says to me is "I didn't realize I was being attacked (me: how does this happen), but since I am, I'm going to vote the guy pressuring me for the reasons someone else stated." Too bandwagon-y, too OMGUS. Not good. He and John haven't contributed jack. I asked John for information when he was catching up a few days ago and got nothing. These guys are coasting.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Also dabuz where u @

 

[Overswarm]

I initially assumed he was kidding. Not gambiting, but just joking in RVS and maybe hoping to get a read out of it if anyone was dumb enough to fall for it. Then he kept pushing his claim like it was real, and that made me confused.

So at that point you had a suspicion it was real?


Scum this game is either a lot of bad players or is setting themselves up for a loss by attempting to blend in. Take note of any left turns for players other than myself.


And Frio? Just forget about me for now. I'll get lynched when I want to get lynched, if I want to get lynched, and there's not an argument you could make that could change that. So worry a bit more about yourself and fill in some of those blank spots on that spreadsheet I made.

 

[Xastrn]

Hella conflicted about OS. I really really dislike the way he presented that fallback lynch proposal and his dodging of the questions about it. However, I don't think scum would go through the trouble of presenting the tables that he did - it's difficult to falsify that data without being called out on it, so if we can trust that, it will be a valuable tool later on for finding scum. Why would scum give it to us?

Overall though, still leaning scum. It's OS, so I could see him doing that as scum.

I was scum in a broom game and did a big spreadsheet demonstrating a "proven" town win if everyone followed my plan.

I'm just putting that out there, so no one assumes that only town work hard to win games. that seems to be a common feeling.

(none of that is intended to say that OS is scum. I'm just saying the spreadsheet is a null tell.

He's really good at wording things out to strengthen his argument. However, that fact that he took my side when circus attacked me makes me believe he's not scum.

Defending a player makes someone town? You're just asking to be duped all game with that kind of thinking.

Be careful about calling those who attack you scum and those who defend you town though. You'll be manipulated pretty easily.

Exactly. Straight from the horses mouth, no less.

slight town tell on this post, just because he didn't let it slide to claim the small rep boost but corrected it. pro-town behavior.

Holy ****. Frio and John, being opportunistic as all get out right now. So scummy. SO GODDAMN SCUMMY.

I've gotta get to bed, but I'll try to get to some of this **** now.

Seriously though, someone else please tell me they've got their eyes on those two. Like, holy ****.

I agree. They both jumped on the middle of a bangwagon FAST. Both were basically OMGUS votes. slight scum tell or noobtown tell. I don't know which.

I also want to point out that circus' reaction is too extreme. He's not playing a calm town. I haven't liked how he's floated under the radar without making very significant contributions, so I have a slight scum read on him thus far. Not enough to jump on his wagon yet, but I'd be down with a circus lynch if nothing better arises Day 1. 40% certainty is really all it takes on Day1. If this was a day2 wagon, I'd expect a hell of a lot more on circus before he'd get my vote.

 

[Dabuz]

@T-Block: What are your hard reads so far? I feel like you have been pretty vocal, but not ready to push any reads yet.

@OS: Are you still in favor of the back-up lynch policy? Also, why did you pick J to be tomorrow's king?

@Werekill: Lets pretend RR claims cop guilty result on OS instead of you at the beginning of the day, do you believe RR's claim?

@Nabe: what are your opinions on john and frio?

@J: Do you have any reads on Frio atm?

Though, I am trying to work on my Day 1 play. I always seem to die before I can be useful. :l

Isn't your flip useful though? If you make a lot of noise and get lynched, that leaves a huge trail for people to follow.

Also the way circus went for me after I barely said anything gives me more reason to think he's scum.

Can you please find the quote where circus went after you?

Holy ****. Frio and John, being opportunistic as all get out right now. So scummy. SO GODDAMN SCUMMY.

I've gotta get to bed, but I'll try to get to some of this **** now.

Seriously though, someone else please tell me they've got their eyes on those two. Like, holy ****.

Read on Frio please

Because OS gambitting in that way right after Ryu did is not good. I'm unsure if OS was strictly joking around or if he legitimately wanted to try to fake a daycop claim, but it wouldn't have been a totally bad plan for OScum to try. Thanks to Ryu's gambit, OS knew he wouldn't get CC'd if he claimed dayvig, and claiming a clear on me was a decent way to try to buddy me.

What about OS's claim seemed like a legitimate attempt to fake daycop?

Now, I don't think OS is actually dumb enough to try to get away with that, normally, but I think he might think that this town is dumb enough to fall for it. And even if he was kidding, what's the benefit of keeping the joke going? Especially coming from OS specifically, who has previously declared quite clearly that...

So, would you say that OS was attempting to mislead town/ test their reactions with the daycop claim?

Considering the fact that the wagon on you was already basically dead by the time you got here, and that you were never going to get lynched on it anyway, it could be argued that you're being too defensive.

For everyone's information, this was a response to Werekill. Circus, there was actually a pretty good chance of Werekill getting lynched because of RR's fake claim, if RR didn't state he fake-claimed, the Werekill wagon could of easily went through.

There are plenty of people that I currently consider pretty strongly leaning town, whom I haven't even discussed.

Who and why?


Regarding John: Im very on the fence about him, his posts definitely are not good, but they don't smell scummy. He is actually a pretty good dangling worm to bite on because i don't think anyone sees him as town, so certain people *coughCircuscough* can throw a vote on him without getting much attention. I actually want to pay close attention to those whom put on a vote on John.



Right now, Circus is the most scummy to me, but I am not ready to put him at L-2 this early in the day, soo...
FoS: Circus



I have a couple more thoughts to post, but i need to leave for school, so ill get back to those thoughts when I get home from school

 

[Overswarm]

Dabuz is playing the noob card. Why is dabuz playing the noob card?

 

[#HBC | J]

Well, my primary issue is because Circus has been quietly buddying most of the more vocal Town players. (in this case, Nabe, You, and Myself) That's largely why I was glad you wanted to move that direction. It's also one of the things I took note of from OS's charts. Circus has called you and only you Town.

Very true. I dislike what Circus has done so far this game. =D He does call me town and says he likes what I have posted but doesn't explain why he feels that way about it. Basically, he is saying things to say them. OS' chart does signify and does catch Circus pretty handidly in that department.

This feels pretty fake to me. It was pretty clear that OS wasn't gambitting, so I don't like that he's expressing false suspicion on him. On top of that, he's brushing off my suspicion at that point instead of giving a decent explanation.

Agreed however there is something else that seems a bit fake in all. Let's bring up Circus was one of the people hanging around at the time of the gambit and was actively posting with RR and Xastrn about it. His posts came off as fake and trying to blend in with what was going on. The main thing that made me think this was because of the way he acted when he thought RR was actually the cop and this thing with OS as well. Both signify that he actually thought them to be true and tried to doubt them. His attitude in the beginning of being fake, matches with this post you quoted Raz.

Side-note: In that post, he calls out Frio. I don't like that really because I don't see how anyone can get an FoS off of that post. He didn't really explain why until recently.

That's a thing I am disliking about Circus, he isn't explaining things at all and just doing things. I'll get to this later though.

His focus on John is also unsettling. I don't particularly care for John, but I wouldn't go as far as to say "He's the play." Same goes for Frio, though that's less of an issue at this point.

Here is a big thing that set off alarm bells for me with Circus. This attack on John has not been explained yet but he is so adamant on it. I know he has said that that is just him but I still don't like it because I do know Circus a bit from his past games. He does stick to one person pretty soundly but he usually has the stuff to back up what he is pushing. The way he tunnels has support where this one is just the smoke and mirrors of it all. John has every right to vote Circus for this in my opinion because if you look at the attack, it's emptier than my wallet. ;_;

Actually, almost ALL of Circus' suspicions have either been directed towards those who have posted less. (Frio, John, Spellcasters) Only OS sticks out from that pile, too.

Take it home, J.

This is a good thing to point out. Look at the names in that list and look at their posts. They are all the same in some way, shape, or form. They are all the "newer" cast plus they have the least amount of substance in their posts. It looks like easy targets to pick out to go after especially since they all can be called out for the same thing. I don't get why Circus is finding what they are doing as "absolutely OMG super ****ing scummy!" because they seem more like nulls that could possibly lean another way. He looks like he is trying to make a big deal out of nothing.

Mountains out of molehills....mountains out of molehills. 8)

*break-time to look at other posts now*

I took the last few hours away from the keyboard to meet with a developer friend...details don't matter.

I like the general flow of today's actions.

OS, i like your spreadsheet. I wish you were in the broom so you could understand how much I like spreadsheets in mafia games. it's become a meme back there.

I need to reread the last 3 pages or so to get a better feel on this sudden circus wagon. I still don't want to unvote my joke vote because I still want John2k to do SOMETHING.

Also, Frio. There, I said his name. The last player i haven't interacted with.

Can you begin to cut out the fluff please? I mean it's getting to a bellicose amount recently. I do have a serious question for you though, what else do you want John to do? He has given scum-picks, he has placed his vote, he has asked a question or two IIRC, but what in your mind do you want him to do. You keep saying you want him to do something, but by not saying you want something done, it's counter-active to what you should be wanting.

Frio you are too cute. It's like you're scared I'm gonna jump out of a closet and leave you FROZEN IN FEAR lol

Be careful about calling those who attack you scum and those who defend you town though. You'll be manipulated pretty easily.

I asked you a question in 130 btw.

@Solid: Has Frio moved from null for you yet?

Raz, this is the type of post that holds me back from trusting TB all the way like you do. I don't like the first two lines of the post because it seems a bit foreced to say that and a little too joking even if he does know Frio IRL. Plus the forewarning is "...." but I'll leave it at that.

Do you see what I am getting at?

Circus, can you please share what you find about me to be definitive "scum"? From what I've seen, you just had a quick beginning vote, possibly influenced by my lack of early posts. Since then, you have been steadfast in that I am scum...posting without hesitation. I still haven't gotten a full explanation as to why.

Circus seems a bit too quick on the "SCUM!" draw...

Vote: Circus

*PW.gif here*

Sorry at school so no gifs. ;_; But you'd get one! I agree a loooot to this post because what it says is true but let's see how Circus reacts to it.

Holy ****. Frio and John, being opportunistic as all get out right now. So scummy. SO GODDAMN SCUMMY.

I've gotta get to bed, but I'll try to get to some of this **** now.

Seriously though, someone else please tell me they've got their eyes on those two. Like, holy ****.

John, you're way to focused on yourself. Huge scum redflag. And you're inflating how much I've been on you by a lot. You're paranoid scum.

Hmmm...well that's a bit unsettling. =3c

Circus, you come off as raving about Frio and John being opportunistic yet I don't see it and it seems very over-dramatic for the votes that have been thrown your way. Your last line of "OMG someone tell me I'm not the only one watching them!" seems desperation for someone to believe you.

*Back to Circus/Raz*

Pretty serious. I'm going to try not to tunnel; it's only a couple days into the Day. But I think he's acting really scummy.

So if you are serious about this, then so am I about you being scum. Why are you going to "try not to tunnel" because you pride yourself on doing that a lot it seems. You need to show how he's acting really scummy because at the current time, it looks like you are grasping at straws.

I genuinely don't know. From my perspective, I'm pretty obvtown. Maybe you're trying to pay me back for Pulp Fiction, but you don't strike me as that petty.

I'll just wait here for Raziek to get at me for trying to meta myself.

I already said I disliked the first line but onto the second line. I dislike that line because it's you trying to posion the water before Raz can comment with the "Well let me just pre-emptively strike here before someone else *cough* Raz *cough* does so." It's not needed besides you trying to down-play Raz's attack on you.

I don't recall calling J town. I recall verablizing my like for one of his posts.

*looks at OS' chart* You and Solid are the only one's in the game to have called me town, and it's cemented in documented proof....sooooo try again haha? ;P

Speaking of why you liked one of my posts, I asked you what about it did you like, you don't answer besides saying you just liked what's in it. That doesn't give me anything at all to work with. What about the post do you like about? Which points do you agree to? Do you think Xastrn is scum for what I said? Coooooome on Circus, work with me. I don't like that I have to beat an answer out of you.

You can call it buddying if you want, but I think we both know how subjective that interpretation is. Calling that a scumtell—in fact, your primary reason for your suspicion—is weak. By that logic, you've been buddying just as much.

Deflection and Stawman? Double whammy Circus. xP That's not his entire argument and primary reason of suspicion nor did you need to add that jab into Raz, again. It's just there to discredit his argument further.

Speaking of, what do you think of Raz as of this post? Is his attack scummy or is it misguided towny?

There are plenty of people that I currently consider pretty strongly leaning town, whom I haven't even discussed.

*waits for answers to this question*

If it seems like I'm brushing off your suspicion of me, it's probably because I think you're suspicion of me is super, super dumb.

The point of this iiiiiiis.....? Oh, to discredit Raz again? Gooo figure. =P Circus, you didn't really explain how his suspicion of you was super super dumb nor did I get that you were brushing it off because you do seem pretty worried about it.

I'll get to them in a bit. But I guess something that would be helpful to know about me is that I like using language like this. I like being blunt and sometimes pretty abrasive even when I only have a slight read on someone. I think pushing people's buttons is useful. So yeah, I'm going to call people scum even when I'm not sure they're scum. I'm going to say things like "he's the play" even if I'm actually open to, like, half the roster for the actual lynch at the end of the Day. Don't get hung up on how adamant my push is; just pay attention to who and why I'm pushing.

I don't like the bolded because shouldn't we be the judge of that, not you? ^^

John, while I agree Circus may be quick to act, can you explain your vote? It seems like blatant OMGUS and bandwagoning to me, same with Frio.

I actually don't think John needs to answer this persay because I feel he has explained his vote well in the fact that Circus hasn't backed up what he is saying towards John yet is going after him vehemently so far. He seems to be voting him for explanation. *shrug* That's what I got out of it.

 

[Overswarm]

J, you seem to believe my chart can be used as evidence.

What other players have caught your attention due to that chart, and what evidence of this has been posted?

 

[Xastrn]

Dabuz is playing the noob card. Why is dabuz playing the noob card?

Just what I was thinking.

*cough*
not trying to buddy on this post. He just said what I was thinking.
I'll buddy in OTHER posts. Don't worry bout that.
*cough*

 

[Overswarm]

T-block, your assignment:

Go through J's posts and find where he references Circus, and give us a description of J's move towards calling Circus scummy.

 

[Xastrn]

J to respond to your fluff request:

I enjoy the game, but I am also here to socialize to a small extent. I will continue to include small amounts of that in my posts unless a moderator tells me it's too distracting. I'm not going to tell you what I just had for breakfast or anything, but in that case, I was addressed as suddenly missing for several hours, so I posted that a potential business partner wanted to meet for a few hours and that took me away from the game.

I also posted about the broom spreadsheet thing because it was applicable to the conversation. I am known for making spreadsheets in mafia games, and I've done so from both sides. Posting about it was directly useful and not really fluff at all. there may have been an aspect of that post that was social, but I won't apologize for that.

There's like 8 people in this game I don't know. I'm hoping that I'll know them a little bit better, even if only in personality, by the end of this game. You and I played a couple games together when you first started playing here, and while we don't know each other terribly well yet, I think that history is useful both in-game and socially on the boards as a whole.

I've also remarked on John2k being from arizona, raz and I talked about the stage striking system, OS and I have a long history that has been briefly referenced, etc.

One last thought on this and I'll quit responding to your question. I have Lyme Disease, which among other things affects my brain. I have a horribly memory and I'm having difficulty remembering who is who in this game. I can't keep certain players separate without some sort of "hook" in my brain to hang them on. John is now my "arizona" player. Raziek is my "stage selection" player. J is my "oddworld" player. RR is my "new swiss, with less confidence" player. I sometimes need connections external to the game to help me keep track of who's who, especiallly when there are so many people here I don't know.

I hope that helps, cause I'm going to continue to have small posts with a little fluff and you'll have to get used to it a bit.

Someone call me out for using my disease as an appeal to emotion. I've got the ACLU on hold!

 

[Overswarm]

Can live:
1. Raziek
2. T-Block
3. Overswarm
4. Xastrn (Dastrn/Xatres)
14. J

Can die:
5. ¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯
6. Panta
7. Red Ryu
8. dabuz
9. Nabe
10. Circus
11. Werekill
12. John2k4
13. spellcasters
15. Frio


Overswarm superlatives:


Biggest Loudmouth: J
Biggest planner: J
Most spreadsheets: Overswarm
Most paranoid: Frio and Panta
Most invisible: Red Ryu
Most likely to get lynched on D1 because they don't do routine maintenance on their image, thus allowing other people to defend them for them: Circus
Most likely to be a backup lynch: Panta
Most likely to not be killed by scum: Werekill, spellcasters
Most likely to be a power role: Circus
Most selective in who they talk to: Solid
Most likely to be Night Killed: Raziek
Most likely to reference things outside of the game: Xastrn

 

[Overswarm]

Note: "Can Live" and "Can Die" are not indicative of alignment.

 

[Overswarm]

You know what?


Solid, claim your race.

 

[Raziek]

Overswarm, did you gain any information worth sharing from people's opinions on the Fallback lynch idea? Is there a specific reason you've ceased pushing the idea?

There's been no mention of the subject since the beginning. I want to know what you garnered from it.

OS, respond to this please.

 

[Raziek]

Also, T-Block covered what I wanted to point out to you in regards to being easily led, Frio. I still want opinions on J, Nabe, and Myself from you.

J covered pretty much everything worth covering on Circus' counter-attack. Got a lot of deflection and personal attack in that one, Circus.

"You're dumb and this case is dumb!"

 

[Overswarm]

OS, respond to this please.

You'll get what I give you. So no.

 

[Raziek]

Why do you insist on being uncooperative yet garrote people for exactly the same reason?

Rather hypocritical, methinks.

 

[Overswarm]

Why do you insist on being uncooperative yet garrote people for exactly the same reason?

Rather hypocritical, methinks.

Your point?

 

[Raziek]

You know what?


Solid, claim your race.

You'll get what I give you. So no.

Your point?

My point is I encourage Solid to flip you off if he feels like it. There's no reason he should claim anything just to satisfy you.

 

[Overswarm]

My point is I encourage Solid to flip you off if he feels like it. There's no reason he should claim anything just to satisfy you.

Well now that's not very good mafia, now is it?

What reason do I have to answer your questions Raziek, and are your questions going to help determine mine or others alignments? What reasoning has brought you to this point?

Solid can very well avoid my questions should he so desire. I'll just kill him for it. You have no such power over me.

 

[Raziek]

Race is valuable information in this game. By consequence, so is name.

That's part of why I've got my eye on Circus asking for a nameclaim from Red Ryu.

Your response to my questions would help me determine your intentions for doing so, and if you share information based on others reactions (which I suppose I could infer myself), then that's information we gain too.

Besides, the idea has clearly gone and passed, and you've not pushed it. That means it was likely never serious to begin with, and you wanted to see who would take the bait. It's likely helped you form an opinion on Xastrn, T-Block, J, and myself, I would imagine.

 

[Overswarm]

Race is valuable information in this game. By consequence, so is name.

That's part of why I've got my eye on Circus asking for a nameclaim from Red Ryu.

Your response to my questions would help me determine your intentions for doing so, and if you share information based on others reactions (which I suppose I could infer myself), then that's information we gain too.

Why exactly should I care about you knowing my intentions?

Besides, the idea has clearly gone and passed, and you've not pushed it. That means it was likely never serious to begin with, and you wanted to see who would take the bait. It's likely helped you form an opinion on Xastrn, T-Block, J, and myself, I would imagine.

Nothing passes. I wait.

 

[Lore]

Small question; what is this image supposed to mean? I'm massively tired, so I have no clue.

You were at L-1, so IMO being defensive is totally merited. But you haven't answered Solid's question -- does information not have merit? Is it that you doubt that RR got any information from the wagon? Or do you not see any potential benefits at all?

Exactly. I don't like being at L-1 for no reason whatsoever. >_>

And I do not think that the information had much merit. Really, if it wasn't a scum action, it was a MASSIVELY bad play. Instead of fake claiming right away against a non-entity, I would have waited a few days (rl days, not Days) then claimed against a player who, while playing and providing interactions, is generally townie. The information that we DID get was not too useful, and Red Ryu backed out way too fast for us to gain anything useful.

To be honest, I don't think that the name claim was needed at all toDay. There was no real reason for it other than maybe starting a controversial discussion, and Red Ryu backed out so fast that not much information was really gleaned.

On another note, I'm still not caught up completely, so feel free to prove me wrong.

So you don't think a read on a wagon is good information? Why's that?

Also answer this please:

I didn't think that it was a good wagon, and any reads on it were essentially useless since it was controversial/badly reasoned enough to make any townie think that it was a bad wagon and disagree with it. The same thing happened in a BRoom game that just finished (hey Dastrn. :3) against Scamp, and guess what? He was town, and all reads from the wagon were mostly useless.

Dastrn and/or Circus can confirm. Also, I'm looking forward to playing with you guys in a non-BRoom setting. ^_^

Cool, Werekill's here.

@Werekill: When you're caught up, can you give me your thoughts on Panta, spellcasters, and Frio? What do you think of the Circus wagon that's forming?

Gah, T-Block's here. Your playstyle in Ragnarok was too scummy, and it's making me still feel a scum vibe from you, even though I don't have an opinion of you yet, haha.

I'm still catching up.

@Werekill: Lets pretend RR claims cop guilty result on OS instead of you at the beginning of the day, do you believe RR's claim?

No clue. Believing the claim itself didn't matter since he backed out so fast, and I would have to see what reads I would be able to glean from the wagon that does or does not form.

 

[Lore]

Gah. Pretend "No clue.... form" in the dabuz quote is outside of the quote tag. >_<

 

[Lore]

Race is valuable information in this game. By consequence, so is name.

Why is race important? I know that it's listed in the role pm, but there's nothing else that signifies it. It could just be a red herring for when a scum gets lynched and race is revealed.

I'm not going to trust flavor until I see more than a couple flips.