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Top 3 scum picks:
My thought is: If it doesn't need to be known, and I do not have enough of a reason to post it, the information requested will stay with me. Don't want it coming back to bite me in the rear later on, one way or another.
Yes I voted early on you, but I have become very confident in the vote with the points that have been thrown around, in that you were lightning fast to latch on to me, and cry scum to the entire kingdom. You seemed almost overeager to have me voted on.
I am relatively new, the two other Mafia games I've played were slightly different from this one, too.
Oh, I didn't see that you had posted that. So you agree with dabuz' reasoning, then? Because I had a different but similar reaction to his post. I don't think his reasoning is very convincing, although it's getting there. What actually interested me is that I think I see dabuz trying to describe a gut scum read (the "do you know something that I don't" bit for example, where he says "why would someone clueless say this?").
You're right again, you definitely asked for specific elaborations. That's cool, although I think you did this more because you thought his reads were weird? I would just like more info. You also asked for elaboration on about 7 reads, where I was thinking more like 2/3 of XYZ as I said. Anyway, I guess I'm not reading correctly tonight.
I don't think Kantrip is necessarily scum at this point, I just don't like that post. If he comes back with some good explanations and some posts that stick out to him, then the vote may go away.
Dabuz is still a little cloudy in my mind. I think his case on Xastrn is decent at best, with some stretches (the first quote for example, I interpreted it to mean Xastrn thinks Raz has info, but I suppose it could be seen as how dabuz read it). A lot of it is a stretch, like calling him scum for giving compliments. Yeah, I could see how things could go that way, but it's a bit of a stretch in my mind. I think dabuz could be scum possibly, because his case has a lot of holes and he's been pretty cautious imo with his posting, but for now he's okay. Actually now that I reread the case I'm liking him less. I don't know about Xastrn though though. All his fluff makes my head spin, and I think I need to reread some of his other posts than the ones in the case. I'll get back to you this afternoon, gotta get ready for school.
Don't do that, you'll make your face get oily and then you'll have painful pimples.
Hmm, well I could bring things to the table that have gone on but I don't really see the need to present a case persay when most of what I think of Xastrn has been said in that one post. If I do make a case, it will purely be an inflation of what I have already said. Unless you want that and that's why you're asking...?Nabe said:
One last thing, what do you make of this post Nabe? Specifically what he said about the cop investigation, is it telling or are you thinking otherwise?
Is it scummy to you, OS, that he does that? I mean, to be fair, you haven't done much significance besides your introduction of the FB lynch and the data. I'd like to see some scum-picks from you.
Like I said, if your reasoning is just what you've already said in conjunction with dabuz' reasoning, then I don't really care. But, a nice neat conglomeration case would help the lynch along.
It's interesting because scum generally don't have gut-scum reads, and because dabuz otherwise seems to be a player I'd have trouble reading.
It's null. If John is scum, he's likely not communicating effectively with his team.
This is really bad. I am allowed to think two parties who are bickering are both scummy, right? Have you ever heard of "bussing" before? Where scum attack each other so that if one flips, the other looks better. Not every argument is town vs scum. Sometimes it's TvT, or SvS. I felt like in that argument, that neither side was winning town points. So what do you want me to do? support one against the other? or give my HONEST assessment that both sides look bad?
You're wrong, but nice try. You're case here was "i don't think he was thinking that..." If that's the best you got, then I don't mind ripping your arguments to shreds all day. It's like wrestling with a roll of toilet paper.
I want to make clear that my issue with your reaction was not the emotion of it (hell, I get pissed sometimes too), but rather the means by which you attacked our suspicions. As J already pointed out, you didn't really attack the actual points, just inferred on our reasoning for making them.
I'd like you to explain to me why my shift was sudden. We headbutted for a bit, and the nature of the arguments was "You're dumb." "No, I'm not.", so I decided it wasn't going to go anywhere.
Note the words "part of" and "got my eye on". There's nothing "gotcha" about that post.
Already addressed this. Your problems with him weren't things that I considered completely scummy, which is why I asked.
I already hit the issue with the votecount (Nabe and I unvoting), but I want to bring attention to this lack of reasoning.
Again, already addressed this, but perhaps my wording was poor. Circus began to look like a dead end, so I moved.
Slight scum. The actual content he's posted hasn't been terribly relevant, there's been too much focus on his actual gambit. I feel like I'm lacking many clear stances from him, though I haven't yet gone out of my way to look.
This I actually partially agree with. I said earlier that I wasn't set on jumping on John, because he hadn't said enough for me to decide. At any rate, all three have been rather inactive.
Which posts and why?
J already covered why this is poor reasoning.
This is a cop-out if I've ever seen one. Re-read his posts and give me a stance on Xastrn.
Support this read.
So fooling around = scum? I'm not seeing where this read comes from completely. People need to take Ryu's gambit for what it was, and focus on his current play, and why THAT is scummy.
Why?
Already covered, but this is hella non-committal.
I actually agree with this one.
Solid nailed this, so points for that.
This vote is on a gut read and isn't supported. DO NOT WANT.
Probably because I make my thought process fairly transparent, so people actually SEE me changing my mind due to the fact that I post frequently. It's probably why I'm on a lot of null lists.
I'd like to say it's simply noob Town, but it feels more like he's actively avoiding producing content. Whether this is because he's lazy Town (and trying to earn points without effort) or scum deliberately doing so, I don't know.
Can die:
Well, earlier I thought that you were still softclaiming earlier. Granted, it was late at night and I was tired, but still.
Hmm.....now this is different. I have an opinion on this post/vote, but I'm gonna hold it for a bit.
Nabe, I'm giving you a hangman game to fiddle around with. Here it goes
What is the word I am thinking of for this post considering what just happened and the waaaay he talks in this post?
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^^^Raz can try as well but I'm more curious to see Nabe take a swing at this.
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Would you really say it looks like a softclaim?
Not with enough certainty to place a vote at the moment.
No to both counts. It gives you Town credit, but it certainly doesn't clear you.
Not necessarily. TvT is common in mafia by definition, so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if you were both Town. It would depend on how exactly the wagon progressed, among other things.
