Mafia Sleepover: The Finale [ Town Wins - Pokemon Sight seeing]

[#HBC | Amidamaru]

@ Dabuz :

What is your read on Murder, Me, and Arcane?

Now I'm out. I'll respond to questions tomorrow. I'm tired. Zen might post later.

 

[Kantrip]

Can we all universally agree to lynch Levi toMorrow if his ability doesn't work, regardless of Bunzy's flip?

If yes, I'll vote Bunzy

 

[BarDulL]

I hate to abandon MB because we're pretty much tied at the ankles at the moment.

Ami, Werekill and Dabuz DEFINITELY aren't scum buddies, lol. How does that change your interpretation of those slots?

 

[BarDulL]

To be honest, Dabuz brings up valid points while Werekill's reaction is just like...woah. Calm down.

But I'm wondering, if people ARE reading this as TvS or possibly TvT, whose the scummy, or how are they both Town?

 

[JeXs]

Can we all universally agree to lynch Levi toMorrow if his ability doesn't work, regardless of Bunzy's flip?

If yes, I'll vote Bunzy

Yes. Vote bunzy.
@ Dabuz
You too. Vote bunzy.

 

[Dramatic Flair]

Even if it DOESN'T work, he's not going to tell you.

Hell, if he's scum, he'll probably pick a scummate to get in on the plan and say it worked, because at that point, it will quite possibly be game if he can get just one more ML.

Counting on his ability to clear them is how this game is lost.

 

[BarDulL]

I feel like Werekill would generally respond like this when he feels someone's trying to make him look bad or be generally douchey towards him (or perhaps has a past history of doing so) based on his reaction to MB's outing of Leviathan's identity and now this.

I kinda prefer Dabuz over Were as scum only because Dabuz is really ignoring the people on him right now lol, I'm also really not sure what direction he's going in or what he's trying to achieve with his most recent posts. It seems like he's trying to question Werekill's read on Murderbush but I don't see how well this correlates with his goals of achieving a Levi lynch...I mean the confrontation actually doesn't seem necessary.

 

[Gova]

are you all blind; levi admitted that his ability is one shot

he ain't gonna prove **** tonight

 

[JeXs]

are you all blind; levi admitted that his ability is one shot

he ain't gonna prove **** tonight

He said he can still use it as it failed.

 

[Gova]

yeah i don't know about that; if he was roleblocked he shouldn't be able to use it again; that punishes good play from the roleblocker

also jexs what came of your answer from murderbush; you didnt explain why you needed to know

 

[JeXs]

yeah i don't know about that; if he was roleblocked he shouldn't be able to use it again; that punishes good play from the roleblocker

also jexs what came of your answer from murderbush; you didnt explain why you needed to know

There is probably no jailer in this game.

 

[Gova]

yes i already figured that; what im asking you is why you posted this

This is important so please answer honestly.

 

[JeXs]

I will answer that if I'm still alive.

 

[Rockin]

vote: Dabunz

 

[JeXs]

@ Kantrip
@ Dabuz
@ Gova
Hammer.

 

[Dabuz]

I'm in the process of making a post right now. I will claim but I NEED to be put back at L-2 first and I'll explain why when I claim.

 

[JeXs]

Unvote.

I'm in the process of making a post right now. I will claim but I NEED to be put back at L-2 first and I'll explain why when I claim.

Fake or real claim?

 

[JeXs]

I'm in the process of making a post right now. I will claim but I NEED to be put back at L-2 first and I'll explain why when I claim.

Vote for Bunzy after you're done claiming. I can hammer

 

[JeXs]

I'm off now. Phone is at.4% reaching home soon though

 

[#HBC | Amidamaru]

I kinda prefer Dabuz over Were as scum

Ok. Where's your vote?

 

[BarDulL]

Ok. Where's your vote?

Not yet.

 

[JeXs]

Bunzy you gonna claim?

 

[Dabuz]

What the **** are you even asking here? Are you trying to convince me that I'm wrong on Murder being scum? You know, that thing I'm already ****ing starting to do? You're so ****ing useless.

... And you're telling me to lynch Levi, one of the slots I've been most vocal about being a town read. Quick question, are you even ****ing reading anything?


Heading to bed for real now, will be back in the morning.

I'm trying to understand exactly how you came your initial MurderScum belief based on the claim in the first place, I read your 1653 where you initially voted Murder after the claim and I don't see the train of thought that leads you to scumMurder based on the claim. I know YOU won't lynch Levi, i'm saying in ****ing general lynch Levi. Speaking of which, I gave you time for a real explanation but never saw one on why you town read Levi. Your response in 1433 is so vague it's disgusting.

@Everyone, look at this slot, tell me how Levi-Were scum team isn't really obvious, Were has been townreading Levi for such vague reasons I can't even actually understand the town read, his jump onto MB is awful. We should not be lynching someone (me) who has support from Levi AND Werekill with the play of these slots, we need to lynch Levi (or Bardull once I claim), his scum flip gives us so much information and borderline wins the game for us.

@ Dabuz :

What is your read on Murder, Me, and Arcane?

Now I'm out. I'll respond to questions tomorrow. I'm tired. Zen might post later.

You are the most obv. town person in the game, you push every direction, explain all your reads, are constantly active, have reads that dynamically change in a way that makes sense and looks like genuine town thought process, you have a constant direction, you're a really obvious town player and that's it.

Murder has a lot of the same things going for him as you and then I can't see Levi and Mirder being on a scum team, so with Levi as such a hard scumspect for me, Murder only makes sense as town.

Arcane is a town lean because whenever he posts, all his logic makes sense and I can see how a town comes to his conclusions. He does make pushes and stances although I don't feel his presence as much as I feel I should compared to how big his posts are. I also feel confident in a scumteam of Levi/ Bardull/ Were, so by default he ends up being towny to me.

So about this wagon on me, it's:

Ami which thinks i'm playing to scum meta along with just my play being scummy in general because I am admittedly more active than this game in general. However he didn't play with me in either F&L2 or Luigi's where I was scum and significantly more active than in FE:A mafia and my activity in those games matches up to my normal town activity. More of a response is needed and that'll come after the claim post.

Werekill has had a scumboner on me for w/e reasons since D1, he hasn't really tried to push until now and instead was opting to constantly mention i'm scum but not do much with it, now that other slots like Ami have really pushed onto me Werekill is pushing hard, he's probs scum with Levi.

Levi is pretty obv. scum, he's scum who has been for my lynch since D1, enough said.

JeX scum reads me because he thinks i'm not really reading the thread and w/e, I have been trying to speed read most of the game honestly and it's been affecting my performance.

IIRC those are the 4 big supporters of my wagon this game?

Claim coming in next post.

 

[Dabuz]

I am Maple from The Legend of Zelda, town odd night Cop. I copped Bardull N1 and got a guilty. I crumbed my role in post 343

Cue the music girls, i'm back and I brought a dozen donuts enough for each one of us for this wonderful slumber party!~ <3 IT will help keep us awake alllll night. Oh, is there some bickering going on? Heavens no, we can't have that happening, well as the host I can settle all this bickering : D

Oh you, always so mean, I read this and choose to ignore it, for a host cannot be stood up by her guests, don't you talk to me like this again!~ <3

Protean seems to be under a lot of pressure and a good amount of people accuse him of being a big ole party pooper, meanies! After looking through all the evidence, I can't see good reason to believe he is as you girls would term it, scummy, however, I wouldn't surprised if some of us here weeeeeere so dastardly.


*Ahem* I was gonna make my whole post like this, but it's annoying so w/e. First of all, WTF @ this Protean wagon. I read everything and there's like, nothing incriminating, arguably bad play to have challenged Ami so early but that was a conscious decision and I can't see how it's most likely scummy over well, not being scummy. Protean's reasoning and explanations to the accusations of scumminess all make sense and look reasonable for a player in his position, as town, to do. So yeah, just not seeing what makes Protean scummy. I basically skimmed pages 7 and 8 cause it looked like a lot of back and forth, so if there was something super important there, that'd be good to know.

The reactions this wagon has garnered is amazing, but two players have caught my eye

@ Gova , give me some thoughts on the more active players like Murderbush and Ami, I don't want to see you just sitting on Protean and harassing him.

@ Leviathan Give me a bit more to chew on, I consider you the person who started this wagon, yet in your initial push on this wagon (205) part of your reason for scum reading Protean is mud slinging (lmfao), and the other is that it's scummy that Protean thought Ami might be trying to make Jex, a noobish player, slip which I don't see being alignment telling. Then in 238 you claim Protean was trying to make Ami look bad with scum intent...which I just don't agree with based on what you presented to back this up. So deeper analysis (and maybe shorter posts) would be appreciated. I also want more interactivity out of you, tell me where else you're looking and why, how you feel about slots like J just latching onto what you say?

@J Ignoring your dislike of Protean when answering, do you still like Amidaramu's play?

If anyone wants specific reads, just ask, reading and taking notes took longer than expected so I didn't want to make it too long.

I mentioned donuts because donuts and cops are correlated together, and the first letter of the first 3 paragraphs spell Cop, I specifically made those first 3 paragraphs in a different posting style from the rest just as a crumb

 

[JeXs]

How are donuts and cops related lol?
So why do you NEED to be put at L-2 before claiming?

 

[JeXs]

vote: bardull

 

[Dabuz]

Now, the reason I copped Bardull was because I DID reread this game during N1. Levi was super obv. scum IMO and I was confident enough that I didn't want to burn my cop on him. Ami and Murder were obv. town, and then when rereading, Bardull brought up a lot of red flags to me and he was in the pool of low content slots who would be hard to read otherwise at this point. I want to be L-2 because I didn't want Bardull seeing this and alpha-ing me as a way for scum in the noose to get a ML before dying. IIRC he's not voting me ATM.

 

[Dabuz]

Derp, forgot to move my vote.

Vote: Bardull

 

[JeXs]

Ami what do you make of his claim?

 

[Gova]

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[Kantrip]

You didn't feel it necessary to out a guilty sooner, and you're pushing a LEVI lynch despite a guilty?

JeXs why are you so fast to buy this?

 

[#HBC | Amidamaru]

1. Why didn't you come out with your guilty earlier in the day? Why did you target him instead of Levi?
2. Why have you been ignoring the wagons and pressure on you while seemingly being a cop?
3. Why do you think Levi claimed being the only investigative slot in town?

 

[Kantrip]

Like you've honestly had this guilty result all Day?

And you've been doing nothing?

 

[JeXs]

You didn't feel it necessary to out a guilty sooner, and you're pushing a LEVI lynch despite a guilty?

JeXs why are you so fast to buy this?

I don't want to risk a cop lynch.

 

[Kantrip]

Vote: Bunzy

 

[JeXs]

potato let him respond first goodness...

 

[JeXs]

Now I remember, he came into the day immediately getting on to bardull.

 

[#HBC | Amidamaru]

Ami what do you make of his claim?

My initial impressions make me think it's a fake-claim. His scumteam probably has no godfather, so the team knows there is no cop in the game. As scum this would be better to wait it out and THEN out their own scummate (bardulL). His play doesn't make sense, it doesn't match up along with a cop. This only benefits his own survival. You can get back on Bunzy.

 

[Kantrip]

JeXs put your vote back on.

If he is town we will lynch Bardull toMorrow but I sincerely doubt that will be the case.

Lynching Bardull first would just be giving him the 1 for 1 that this fake claim would be intended to give.

 

[Dabuz]

Anyway, my activity this game is a result of 2 things:

-Flat out I don't have much free time lately. Mafiascum is a timesink the way I play it, so blah, trying to juggle doing other more fun things while keeping my commitment to this game, I debated replacing out but I don't like doing that unless I absolutely need to.

-I'm a cop, i'm going to want to lurk so scum doesn't target me, if the game is going in a direction I like (Levi), I would much rather lurk, read, but show my support with a vote rather than jump headfirst into everything and get attention, because well now i'm an outed Cop.

-As a side note for today, I know Bardull is scum, very sure on Levi, all I need for the puzzle is one more slot, that last puzzle piece is Werekill on a Levi scumflip.