Mafia and Werewolves Gamethread

[UtopianPoyzin]

gellnick Nerbins Thoughts on each other go

 

[osieorb18]

** why the ** do i even trust you osie

i almost want you and wiisp to spell out exactly what the **** happened during the Night that led to you two forming a towncore between us 3 and rhand, im having a hard time deciding what i want to believe

i do think ff can be scum, i still gotta say if I was reading her play alone id prob read mao as town but with all things considered i read her play as null and her association with eido reads bad. Swiss can only be traitor, nerbins looks bad but i caaaaaan see twtbw?????? Poyzin should be on the table, rhand should be on the table, gellnick should be on the table, osie taking them off the table makes me want to put him on the table. osie THE person throwing FUD into these eod’s.

I think we ****ing commit to this lynch and don’t listen to osie calling for a cfd. last time we did that we lynched town

Either of us can spell it out if we're alive toMorrow.

 

[osieorb18]

Vote: Mao

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

I agree with rhand and gellnick being on the table. But it doesn't matter because we will be exeing nerbins for lack of a better target. Mao /=/= better target

 

[osieorb18]

I feel like I do know but I have enough reason to doubt my ability to read through the lines because you don’t seem to fully trust osie. So much of my ****ing operative game plan revolves around trusting you cuz you’re the claimed cop, but osie ****ing tryna CFD again gives me serious pause.

This game is frustrating to read because it’s easy to look like town when you actually do have to scumhunt and when y’all refuse to read all of the players with a sense of conviction, choosing to half ass a read or let it linger on a feel about a very specific thing. Don’t take this as vague, I’m directly calling you out at this point for not doing your job in calling plays and sitting on the sidelines wiisp. You’re *ing outed cop and you can’t even commit to any sort of read on half the playerlist. Makes me think I should think about your claim being legit again but * apparently I’d be a total dip**** if I started thinking that right?

I’m honestly sold on the fact that as long as we lynch maf or we here toDay, we’re fine. So in the end I’m more open to looking beyond who might be ww, but it’s really annoying to play a game where mad people have egos but nobody has a real sense of outward urgency. And I do get it, this setup is looking worse and worse the longer it goes on, and it didn’t look all that good from the jump. But like ** man, grow some and let’s ***ing lynch scummy *. Let’s not reward ****ty play with keeping it alive, how about that angle?

/rant

**** it... This game sucks.

Hardclaim Town Seer. I checked UP last night and got a green result. Wisp and I became lovers last Night through no fault of our own, without a chat, just if either of us die, the other one dies as well.

This setup is not remotely balanced; town has no chance, and it has actively made the game ****ing miserable. I have not been this pissed off about a setup at least since Greatest Idea, probably further back to like Call of Duty or something.

 

[osieorb18]

I agree with rhand and gellnick being on the table. But it doesn't matter because we will be exeing nerbins for lack of a better target. Mao /=/= better target

Nerbins is actively a bad target since they're not likely to be ww.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I said that her play alone reads as more null to me. Coming from having put her near the top of my townlist from within the first few pages, that’s more than a bit of a step.

I don’t hate a nerbins lynch. But I can’t ignore the complete lack of activity between both mao and eido. If it was a one way problem that’d be one thing, but she had one interaction with him and it was ****ing weird

 

[osieorb18]

It's extremely unlikely that Wisp and I don't die tonight, so if there's two kills and no crosskill, town is down to parity with non-town.

 

[osieorb18]

And that's assuming like no elim.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Hardclaim Town Seer. I checked UP last night and got a green result.

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
you were being globally townread without thius
this is pain

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh I was thinking you were a bodyguard, and didn’t catch the lovers thing. Yea I was totally off. Yea we’re kinda ****ed lmao

 

[osieorb18]

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
you were being globally townread without thius
this is pain

Because town players need to stop solving as if we have extra phases.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

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[UtopianPoyzin]

Nerbins is so much safer they're basically locked evil and I don't say that very often

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

okay, i think we kill mao. She is most likely ww imo. The shoe fits

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Nerbins is so much safer they're basically locked evil and I don't say that very often

Because town players need to stop solving as if we have extra phases.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

I really do not care about 2 nks anymore. We have however many town we have left. We need to exe evil. If we're wrong about mao we're boned, and I think there is a solid chance we're wrong about it

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Vote; Mao

Hopefully that's hammer

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Vote: Mao

fixing typo, brain numb play here

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

8 v 2 v 1

kill town or traitor

7 v 2 v 1

nk + osie wiisp nk

4 v 2 v 1

that is a death sentence

 

[osieorb18]

7T/1N/1W/2M
I'm assuming no crosskill will occur and that no protection exists because **** it.

So if we elim town, the night phase probably looks like:
6T/1N/1W/2M -> 3T/1N/1W/2M GG

If we elim traitor, the night phase probably looks like:
7T/1W/2M -> 4T/1W/2M Semi-LYLO

If we elim mafia, the night phase probably looks like:
7T/1N/1W/1M -> 4T/1N/1W/1M Semi-LYLO

If we elim werewolf, the night phase probably looks like:
7T/1N/2M -> 5T/1N/2M MYLO

 

[osieorb18]

And the semi-LyLO situations are garbage because there's still TWO KILLS on equal parity going into that night.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

8 v 2 v 1

kill mafia

8 v 1 v 1

3 nk’s

5 v 1 v 1

but that’s still really not good

 

[osieorb18]

Osie
Wiisp

Rhand
Gorf

Swiss
Shurian

Poyzin
gellnick

Mao
Frozen
Nerbins

This has been my readlist all Day, pretty much.

 

[osieorb18]

The scumreads are pretty much in no particular order.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

8 v 2 v 1

kill ww

8 v 2

double kill

6 v 2

that “buys us an extra ml” but the lylo afterwards would unfold as follow:

5 v 2

nk

4 v 2

and town can’t get a lynch (3 townies, takes 4 to lynch), which is ****ed

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

stop liking the posts when I call you mafia -_-

im gonna go out on a limb here and say that you have a fear of me being town here cuz of that mafia game you brought up earlier from two summers ago where i basically bodied town. and that’s fine, but i just think it’s clouding your judgment of my play.

while this may be partially true that I am afraid of your scum game, this doesn't reassure me that you aren't btw, in fact I don't think this is a good answer because it seems like you're trying to kinda manipulate my thinking in the sense that "you're afraid, and that's fine " to get me to think "am I really just afraid" kinda thingy

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Gorf
Osie
Wiisp

Swiss
Shurian

Rhand
Poyzin
Gellnick
Frozen
Nerbins
Mao

 

[osieorb18]

Unofficial Vote Count:

Detective Mao (5) - Shurian, Gorf, Rhand, Osie, Poyzin
Nerbins (2) - Swiss, Wiisp

Not voting: Frozen, gellnick, Mao, Nerbins

WIth 11 players, it takes 6 to eliminate.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

stop liking the posts when I call you mafia -_-

that’s my thing

You are really just afraid or you’re scum tryna throw FUD on my slot, which is a good long haul. I’m not really decided on which it is yet but like what do you want me to say. I feel like I’m obvtown but clearly I’m biased

 

[osieorb18]

#HBC | FrozeηFlame gellnick Nerbins Swiss Wiisp

 

[Chop Chop]

Vote Count

Detective Mao (5) - Shurian, Gorf, Osie, Poyzin, Rhand
Nerbins (2) - Swiss, Wiisp
Poyzin (1) - Detective Mao

 

[Nerbins]

Game's majority AND plurality, right?
What do we get by hammering now, Mao dies either way, better to talk than to end day early

gellnick Nerbins Thoughts on each other go

I remember practically nothing from Rellnick, I'll be honest. I'll ISO them and say what I think, then I'll ISO you/Chaco and Swiss next since overall these three slots are probably the lowest barring Mao in terms of who I think is good.

 

[Nerbins]

Pretty null on Rhand too so I'll ISO him also why not

 

[Wiisp]

who the hell cares if no one has problems with it, that read doesn't work in a multiball

 

[Wiisp]

god damnit Osie you're no fun
and ur the town seer, what the hell

 

[Wiisp]

still pretty wild that we have this ****ty town busdriver, and one of the evil factions has a god damn loverizer, or town does, and they are dumb as ****, cause idk why they hit me and Osie

 

[Wiisp]

I'll remember to not take, anything a mod says as true, when I ask if a game is balanced
cause **** this setup

 

[Wiisp]

if we have to kill an evil, it shouldn't be hard, right? right?
frozen is literally a non-existent entity in this game regardless of their alignment, after all that "Holier than thou" attitude and demeanor.

 

[Wiisp]

I mean gorf's reaction are good and bad at the same time, her evaluation of mao here is actually pretty poor
their earlier reaction of my claim and trying to kill it was bad
so like its not unheard for them to be mafia

so I don't know really
Nerbin is still easily the lost wolf here, just saying

which makes me not want to **** with Mao really, I don't really get what makes them wolfy, and I still kinda trust my game state read.
Replacing out here was beyond ****ty, everyone that has had pressure has replaced out, like jeez man