Mafia and Werewolves Gamethread

[Nerbins]

You’re free to think what you will about my answers but bottom line I DID answer it

 

[Nerbins]

Saying I didn’t is wrong

 

[Shurian]

Well, good morning.

I'm not frozen. I slept, and couldn't be bothered to interact with people when my attempts got dismissed even when people supposedly wanted to narrow the PoE, and all they seemed to be doing was shading me even if it made no sense from a neutral standpoint. I went from consensus town to everyone's scumreads almost immediately, that would throw anyone off.

I'm just going to do my thing, and you guys do your thing, yeah? I'm not going to be here 24/7, I'll just do analysis on my own.

About the bolded; how so? It was clogging up the thread and leading nowhere, especially with Wiisp claiming Rhand's behavior was NAI. I don't see how wanting to move on from it is scummy.

I'm basing it upon a read that I strongly believe in, and it's kind of world-building as well, but I really think this world looks very likely, thus I wont be changing this for the next 24h unless I find something.

What do you think of Nerbins right now?

Nerbins
Which of the myriad of arguments caught your eye? There has to be something, something that nags at you in that day, whichever event it was, you could put it out in the thread.

 

[Shurian]

Rhand Let's play a game.

Here is a list of people in the game that aren't either of us. 9 in total.

FrozenFlame
Nerbins (Whysper)
Wiisp
Gellnick
Osieorb (whoever they replaced)
Gorf
Mao
UtopianPoyzin
Swiss

Let's play Unboxing the Town.
It won't be fun if either of us take out Wiisp so... they get taken out before I make my choice.

Taking out Utopian. It's your turn to take out a name.

FrozenFlame
Nerbins (Whysper)
Gellnick
Osieorb (whoever they replaced)
Gorf
Mao
Swiss

 

[Wiisp]

I have a game as well, but I will let yours finish

 

[gellnick]

I have a game as well, but I will let yours finish

I'll play your game if you like lol.

 

[Shurian]

I'll play your game if you like lol.

You can do it too, no one's here D:

FrozenFlame
Nerbins (Whysper)
Rhand
Osieorb (whoever they replaced)
Gorf
Mao
Swiss

 

[Shurian]

To be fair, I chose rhand for a reason* for this game.

 

[osieorb18]

You can do it too, no one's here D:

FrozenFlame
Nerbins (Whysper)
Rhand
Osieorb (whoever they replaced)
Gorf
Mao
Swiss

Ooh, can I play?! I assume this is the list with which I start:

FrozenFlame
Nerbins (Whysper)
Rhand
gellnick
Gorf
Mao
Swiss

 

[Shurian]

Ah yes
Go ahead xD

 

[osieorb18]

FrozenFlame
Nerbins (Whysper)
Rhand
gellnick
~~Gorf~~
Mao
Swiss

 

[osieorb18]

Wow I derped.

FrozenFlame
Nerbins (Whysper)
Rhand
gellnick
Gorf
Mao
Swiss

 

[osieorb18]

Shurian You're up.

 

[Shurian]

Removing Rhand.

FrozenFlame
Nerbins (Whysper)
gellnick
Mao
Swiss

 

[osieorb18]

Feels weird, but removing Swiss.

FrozenFlame
Nerbins (Whysper)
gellnick
Mao

 

[Shurian]

FrozenFlame
Nerbins (Whysper)
gellnick
Mao

This is interesting to say the least LEL
Would this look like an accurate 4 scum list?

 

[Shurian]

May I ask why you cleared Gorf and Swiss accordingly?

Maybe I'm out of the loop here but it's not clear to me, I need to get out of this bias that's clouding my views rn.

I'm seeing a lot of people rate Gorf and Swiss high...

 

[Nerbins]

Nerbins
Which of the myriad of arguments caught your eye? There has to be something, something that nags at you in that day, whichever event it was, you could put it out in the thread.

The first one, I thought Rhand was being a bit too defensive over a read in the very first page. Also the one between Ex and people doubting Wiisp's claim, since I agreed with Ex and didn't really understand other people's reasoning that Wiisp could be lying, even if Ex could've conveyed it better

 

[Nerbins]

Personally I just like Gorf this game, mostly their tone if anything, don't particularly trust Swiss too much since I could be wrong but I think they tried a halfhearted bait with me, that plus their interactions with Eido

 

[Detective Mao]

Okay, anyone here?

Personally I just like Gorf this game, mostly their tone if anything, don't particularly trust Swiss too much since I could be wrong but I think they tried a halfhearted bait with me, that plus their interactions with Eido

Want to elaborate on this?

 

[Wiisp]

Here but not for long

 

[Detective Mao]

Fair enough. I only really remember Osie and Shurian discussing mechanics, but what's your take on the overall situation right now? Just to hear your input, if anything.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

question mao: what’s on your agenda toDay? the Days lasted almost 36 hours at this point, any and all detail would be greatly appreciated. and preferably id like your answer to include 5 names, 6 if you mention shurian

 

[Wiisp]

The situation right now from my PoV, is probably that a couple wolves are looking decent doing real time, and the rest are just flaking slowly and slowly

I have a soft spot for real time, while the people dipping in and out are slowly fading away from my town leans

Now if everyone was playing consistently I could get better reads

Its even harder since a lot of the stronger players, are still waving on my alignment, and I can't figure out how to feel about that

 

[Shurian]

Im still waiting on Rhand xD

I can make do with Wiisp though

What are your thoughts on FrozenFlame and his likeliness to be scum? (Be they mafia or werewolf?)

 

[Shurian]

Also is there a way to receive notifications or something from this forum
I've missed gellnick and osie almost entirely >_>

And I'm passing midnight now, gotta sleep
Send help

 

[Detective Mao]

I was supposed to take this easy, why did I make a wallpost. Aaaa.

question mao: what’s on your agenda toDay? the Days lasted almost 36 hours at this point, any and all detail would be greatly appreciated. and preferably id like your answer to include 5 names, 6 if you mention shurian

...I'm sorry for having to sleep and take care of my responsibilities? No need to be like that. I joined this game specifically because I thought I could have a few busy days with a 5-day cycle. I didn't expect to be scumread over it.

I hated ExLight's slot with pure passion, and I hate the fact that Shurian isn't really looking that bad tonally. I think they're the only one who expressed a desire to interact with me without dismissing me as lockscum while doing so, and there doesn't seem to be a reason for them to do that if they really were evil, given that I was still scumreading them at the beginning of the day. I'm inclined to just throw my previous read out of the window and accept that I was tunneled, and also because I'm tired of being caught up with this. It's inhibiting my ability to interact with other slots, so I just want to leave them be. They can be a townlean based on Shurian's actions up until now.

My long term memory isn't the greatest, but Osie has been forming a random town circle and focused on talking about mech from what I can recall, though I have problems with the way they simply decided "X and Y are prob town" and enforced this specific PoE. I have townread them from the moment they subbed in, and unless they're an excellent powerwolf, I'm not bothering to read any deeper into it. A wolf doesn't do the things they do.
The biggest problem I had was when I ISOed Rhand and saw that the only difference between us seemed to be that Rhand is able to be present, even if they had zero hard takes and there wasn't much engaging beyond some small questions here and there. It's not something I automatically find scum-AI, I feel like their posts today will reveal their alignment when I have the time and energy to bother analyzing them. It's more about Osie's towncore-forming than anything. Rhand is leaning scum because they ticked me off earlier null until further notice.
(And FTR, I feel bad for making Rhand feel bad. It was a joke, albeit a bit mean-spirited.)

Uhh. Who else, who else? Wiisp is skipped because of no CC, I don't remember much from Whysper's replacement. Right now my readlist is somewhat like this, I guess. There are people I don't remember much from, but I'm not going to push myself to reform my reads right now, I'll just take it easy.

Wiisp
Osie

Gorf
Shurian

Swiss
Rhand

FrozenFlame
Nerbins
gellnick

I think I'm missing someone, but basically, my bottom column is "don't remember much from them" instead of scumreads. Interchangeable.

 

[Swiss]

Sorry guys work ramped up.
And it's catch up here or watch the Liverpool match tonight.

So v/la till tomorrow eta 15 hours to hot takes

 

[Detective Mao]

I'd like to avoid vomiting out wallposts like these every time I have time to be here, so I'd just like to take it easy and form my reads as I go instead of having to explain or defend myself all the time

So I'm just gonna chill

 

[Shurian]

Would try not to vomit wallposts everytime I go into thread, but who am I to tell you really xD

even if they had zero hard takes and there wasn't much engaging beyond some small questions here and there.

Will take a look once I wake up in 7 hours...

Rhand just take 2 players out from that list I have a few hours back and I'll come back in the morning with something.

 

[Wiisp]

Shurian
After work or maybe on my 15

Detective Mao
I'm haven't locked anyone as scum, but this game is pretty scary right now. Osies alignment doesn't really matter given what happened last night so like if for the sake of gathering info, if you want to assume he is a wolf, and look at his interactions, by all means, go ahead. But like he doesn't survive another night phase. Also his wolf game is ok, he won as a wolf with Seth just recently

I do need to stop being lazy with Rhand tho, and possibly gelneck

nerbins hasn't really done anything that makes me call him a wolf, but he certainly hasn't done anything townie except maybe look tonally good?

 

[gellnick]

You can do it too, no one's here D:

FrozenFlame
Nerbins (Whysper)
Rhand
Osieorb (whoever they replaced)
Gorf
Mao
Swiss

Alright, I'll take out Rhand.

FrozenFlame
Nerbins (Whysper)
Rhand
Osieorb (whoever they replaced)
Gorf
Mao
Swiss

 

[Detective Mao]

Nah, I'm not assuming he's a wolf. I think it's pretty clear Osie's going to die tonight, given that they're leading the discussion heavily, unless both factions target PRs (assuming Osie isn't one) / we kill off the WW faction today.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

mao, i strongly encourage you to not take every opportunity you can to act antagonized when someone mentions activity and you in the same regard. i swear youve done it 3-5 times this phase alone, youre honestly better off just ignoring that stuff. i didnt even complain about your activity when i said that, im getting at something a little different: i dont have a clear idea of what your goals are toDay in spite of knowing that you were here yesterday.

also you know how exlight would just misrepresent peoples reads on him? youre kinda doing the same thing here:

I joined this game specifically because I thought I could have a few busy days with a 5-day cycle. I didn't expect to be scumread over it.

youre generalizing nuanced points about why you might be scum and saying thats its all cuz of your activity level. youre playing very inwardly focused. i suggest you broaden your view of the thread.

re exlight/shurian: trust me i was ready to tunnel overNight but then the Day hit and eido flipped ww and gears changed. id say its the right move to step back from shurian and take a look at what matters right here and now.

osie is doing his thing and hes all well and good cuz hes tryna solve and because i trust that wiisp trusts him. i dont wanna talk much about osie alignment wise though, im townreading him toDay. plus im in the towncore so that helps too surely. what osie helped bring to light in that boring mech talk was that we HAVE to kill ww toDay because we cant really risk more crossfire toNight. so having scumreads and stuff is important, but more important than that is trying to develop ww reads. so the people trying to solve the game are the people trying to find ww. im voting you because, right now, you make the most sense as ww.

if you follow my posts in the past few pages, youll see a basic breakdown of my thought process for how i came to voting you right now, keeping in mind that my priority is using poe to try to find ww.

im not too too focused on current interactions in this part of the phase, and i suggest you do the same and stop on waiting for people to talk to you for you to make content. and please. dont bellyache about your activity not being what people want it to be.

 

[osieorb18]

May I ask why you cleared Gorf and Swiss accordingly?

Maybe I'm out of the loop here but it's not clear to me, I need to get out of this bias that's clouding my views rn.

I'm seeing a lot of people rate Gorf and Swiss high...

Gorf seems to be sorting and taking the game seriously. Swiss has been discussed as possible traitor, but seems unlikely to be other scum.

 

[osieorb18]

I was supposed to take this easy, why did I make a wallpost. Aaaa.



...I'm sorry for having to sleep and take care of my responsibilities? No need to be like that. I joined this game specifically because I thought I could have a few busy days with a 5-day cycle. I didn't expect to be scumread over it.

I hated ExLight's slot with pure passion, and I hate the fact that Shurian isn't really looking that bad tonally. I think they're the only one who expressed a desire to interact with me without dismissing me as lockscum while doing so, and there doesn't seem to be a reason for them to do that if they really were evil, given that I was still scumreading them at the beginning of the day. I'm inclined to just throw my previous read out of the window and accept that I was tunneled, and also because I'm tired of being caught up with this. It's inhibiting my ability to interact with other slots, so I just want to leave them be. They can be a townlean based on Shurian's actions up until now.

My long term memory isn't the greatest, but Osie has been forming a random town circle and focused on talking about mech from what I can recall, though I have problems with the way they simply decided "X and Y are prob town" and enforced this specific PoE. I have townread them from the moment they subbed in, and unless they're an excellent powerwolf, I'm not bothering to read any deeper into it. A wolf doesn't do the things they do.
The biggest problem I had was when I ISOed Rhand and saw that the only difference between us seemed to be that Rhand is able to be present, even if they had zero hard takes and there wasn't much engaging beyond some small questions here and there. It's not something I automatically find scum-AI, I feel like their posts today will reveal their alignment when I have the time and energy to bother analyzing them. It's more about Osie's towncore-forming than anything. Rhand is leaning scum because they ticked me off earlier null until further notice.
(And FTR, I feel bad for making Rhand feel bad. It was a joke, albeit a bit mean-spirited.)

Uhh. Who else, who else? Wiisp is skipped because of no CC, I don't remember much from Whysper's replacement. Right now my readlist is somewhat like this, I guess. There are people I don't remember much from, but I'm not going to push myself to reform my reads right now, I'll just take it easy.

Wiisp
Osie

Gorf
Shurian

Swiss
Rhand

FrozenFlame
Nerbins
gellnick

I think I'm missing someone, but basically, my bottom column is "don't remember much from them" instead of scumreads. Interchangeable.

Huh. Okay. I don't necessarily hate this.

 

[Wiisp]

5 days goes by quick, and town can lose today. Personally as long as you drop thoughts every day, that I can analyze it's fine. I am usually always reading, and I have a horrible habit of posting while working, because my attention span at home is pretty garbage due to my a.d.d

Nobody is attacking your activity, they are attacking what you do with your activity. That's how you should play the game. And of course your posts. You did spend a lot of day 1 trying to push the claimed cop in an open setup.

 

[Wiisp]

Can possibly lose today*

 

[Detective Mao]

...Sorry. I thought that's what you implied, but I suppose that was an overreaction on my part, Gorf.

im not too too focused on current interactions in this part of the phase, and i suggest you do the same and stop on waiting for people to talk to you for you to make content. and please. dont bellyache about your activity not being what people want it to be.

I'm trying to do that. Monologizing, monologizing...

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

You’re free to think what you will about my answers but bottom line I DID answer it

Never said you didn't answer it. Just agreed with Gorf that your answer was bad. This defensiveness and trying to assert "I did answer it I did answer it" speaks to somebody trying to do the bare minimum of what's asked of them. So not town.

Vote: Nerbins