Mafia and Werewolves Gamethread

[Wiisp]

Neb are u a PR?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

from this, i don’t imagine exlight is ww with eido and my maf!ff read is stronger, and there’s no way those two are mates.

ff is more likely maf to me till I see the ww argument

I don’t imagine eido scum reads his wolfmate while he strong townreads eido, so that takes gellnick out

that leaves me with poyzin and mao

 

[Nerbins]

I'm just vanilla townie

AYYO Nerbins YOU SCARED BOI? YOU JUST DISAPPEAR LIKE THAT YOU JUST GOT HERE BRO!

Hi what's up I'm in class how you doing

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Eido had Chaco in his final scumpool but really that could be sheeping and waverable. I’d rather see what his actions were with the Chaco wagon as it went through the Day before I decide on who I like more between ww!mao and ww!poyzin

 

[Wiisp]

gellnick
I played Orange's Madoka game on CD, i was there when your mafia section got yeeted to oblivion

 

[Wiisp]

Swiss
So what now, what else do you want from Net before you explain to me your post?

 

[gellnick]

gellnick
I played Orange's Madoka game on CD, i was there when your mafia section got yeeted to oblivion

Oh, that game...
I never understood that game in the first place, but that's for a different time I think.

 

[Swiss]

Swiss
So what now, what else do you want from Net before you explain to me your post?

Oh I got nothing.

Was hoping he'd admit he commuted as some 'town pr claim'

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

sorry for the slow start this phase guys I am absolutely ****ing slammed at work this week, rest of the week I probably will not be able to play at all except for late evenings at least until the weekend

getting crossfire N1 was a godsend both for parity purposes and info, I'll be ISOing eido tonight, I 100% agree that our goal today should be to find the mate because eliming an entire factional kill from the game is highest EV for town to win

hate wiisp claiming no result, if he's fake claiming as maf or traitor he's going to ****ing to rub that **** in our faces postgame

so wiisp is claiming to have targetted nerbins' slot and go no result? and nerb is claiming VT?

possible explanations given what we know of the setup would be one of the two remaining scum PRs is a roleblocker or some sort, nerb is actually traitor and self commuted last night, nerb is some other PR that would somehow interfere with investigation results and is lying about, or wiisp is just lying

wiisp what was your rationale for the nerb slot check?

Like, I don't think I've been this pissed off at a setup in over half a year.

So essentially Jungle Republic with extra swinginess and slots to fill for funsies?

ngl Im not particularly excited to play a game that clearly presents as follow the cop with 2 guaranteed cops and no clear roleblocker in the game for mafia counterplay

More power to ya if you have homies to help fill the game and all but this setup does not seem well thought out

I was the OG setup hater btw, don't cramp my style, this setup is insanely swingy and overcentralized around cop performance and presuming there will be cross kills to keep town in the game, and traitor is like weirdly unnecessary and just make it swingier and open to kingmaker scenarios

 

[Wiisp]

My rational was checking a low poster in the PoE

 

[Wiisp]

I didn't expect it to go off anyways, or be alive. I thought I was finna die before Scarlet did

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

I like Osie content a lot. Hard town. I think I like Rhand? I don't want to rule Rhand out of the PoE to early but I also don't want to exe them. Still think Gorf can be scum. Nerbins claim is manageable, doesn't seem super deceitful but I just want to hear more of their juicy takes.

I appreciate Rhand's idea. I checked ExLight

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Figured scum can find this information anyway, Shurian and Nerbins both claimed VT. Could be forgetting some. That's 2 of 4 claims down, and 4 scum are going to have to weasel their way in if they haven't already.

 

[Wiisp]

Why do you think Gorf is scum?

 

[osieorb18]

Wiisp You action could only fail if EITHER Whysper/Nerbins commuted OR there's a manipulative PR that hasn't been discussed.

 

[Wiisp]

My proposed thought is, if either of the last PRs are in the PoE they should just claim

UtopianPoyzin
Uhhm I don't think any evils have to claim anything other than VT

 

[gellnick]

My proposed thought is, if either of the last PRs are in the PoE they should just claim

UtopianPoyzin
Uhhm I don't think any evils have to claim anything other than VT

I disagree, PRs should not claim unless they absolutely have to. I don't want scum to know any more PRs than they already do.

 

[Nerbins]

I read a lot more of the thread, just asking this now before I go back to reading
Are we at a potential LyLo today? If my math's right we got 7 goods and 4 bads left. If we get the wrong guy today and both bad factions hit town tomorrow, it'd be 4/4. How screwed would we be at that point?

 

[Rhand]

I read a lot more of the thread, just asking this now before I go back to reading
Are we at a potential LyLo today? If my math's right we got 7 goods and 4 bads left. If we get the wrong guy today and both bad factions hit town tomorrow, it'd be 4/4. How screwed would we be at that point?

I have math on that somewhere. Pretty screwed but not completely. In that case we do need a crossfire the next Night.

 

[Nerbins]

Alright, thanks
Also since I don't know how they play would Eido be more or less likely to throw shade on their buddy early, or would they try and avoid discussing them/just have them consistently as null?

 

[Rhand]

Alright, thanks
Also since I don't know how they play would Eido be more or less likely to throw shade on their buddy early, or would they try and avoid discussing them/just have them consistently as null?

No idea. I don’t know Eido.

 

[Nerbins]

Right, finished reading
Between Mao and Poyzin for WW, I think it's more likely to probably be Mao, given how Eido treated Whys and Poyzin in a very similar manner, and I know for a fact I'm good, so to me it seems more likely that Poyzin also isn't their teammate. Could be wrong depending on how Eido treats buddies, or they left it up to chance whether people went for Whys or Poyzin, but given I don't know how they play I think the Mao theory is more likely
Also noticed that Eido and Swiss stuck up for each other a fair amount, don't think this necessarily correlates to Swiss being WW but thought I should say it just in case

 

[Nerbins]

Also given how no one CC'd Wiisp and we're at a potential LyLo I trust their claim pretty hard, so I don't think they're lying about attempting to investigate me

 

[Rhand]

How about FF as partner?

 

[Nerbins]

Going through what I have and yeah I got nothing between Eido and FF, it's possible
Right now my top partner suspects are probably Mao and FF, not certain which one I like more yet

 

[Rhand]

Going through what I have and yeah I got nothing between Eido and FF, it's possible
Right now my top partner suspects are probably Mao and FF, not certain which one I like more yet

Why the focus on Mao and Poyzin? You’re quick to agree on FF for not mentioning him at all. Who else is (not) in “what you have”?

 

[Nerbins]

Focused on Mao and Poyzin since I thought the consensus was that the WW was between them. Only other people that weren't particularly noteworthy regarding Eido in what I had were Gorf and you, and I don't think either of you being partners with Eido is as likely as the three previously brought up. Though for Gorf it might in part be because I trust them more than Mao and FF

 

[Nerbins]

*Mao, FF, and Poyzin

 

[Rhand]

Focused on Mao and Poyzin since I thought the consensus was that the WW was between them. Only other people that weren't particularly noteworthy regarding Eido in what I had were Gorf and you, and I don't think either of you being partners with Eido is as likely as the three previously brought up. Though for Gorf it might in part be because I trust them more than Mao and FF

Hm that means you’re not getting the game flow. FF is a wagon because some of us think he’s the WW.
How much reading have you done after the flip? Did you try making your own conclusions with Eido spew?

 

[Nerbins]

Read the whole thing after the flip but I admit I might've skimmed a little since I got excited I was near the end. The only conclusion I came to completely myself was the one regarding Swiss, but I don't know how much merit that has

 

[Wiisp]

Swiss any examples of games you've played?

unvote
vote: Whysper

man I should have voted him just for this vote lmao
this **** is exactly how I caught Dels in that DLP game

 

[Wiisp]

I remember someone said something about Eido talking about voting partners here being bad or something?
can anyone confirm this?
don't know how much weight I will put on his reads on a non-contextual level, I am looking for reads that look awkwardly positioned

 

[Wiisp]

also knowing how scary today is, if Swiss continues this PBAP playstyle, I will not accept him as town
if he adapts to the current situation and actively helps solve the game, and actually rereading the slots
he said he is going to, so I am hoping for some good insight

 

[Shurian]

I'm ISOing Mao right now.

First let's talk about town... probably.

Based on POE I should be able to eliminate gellnick from the scumlist. (I TR him yesterday and I think there's no need for changes so far). I'm personally liking Utopian from tone and I want him to quickly get out of PoE through additional content.

Upon rereading the first 3 pages, I have one question for Rhand;

Rhand when I first saw the first conflict (Swiss/Rhand page 1), I was majorly and utterly confused and disturbed, but I didn't really make anything of it. What were you thinking when you responded to Swiss in post 29? What response did you expect?

Uh what is this? Does this mean werewolves don’t have a kill and you’re signalling the mafia faction where town power is for them to kill?

 

[Shurian]

#HBC | FrozeηFlame
Can I have an updated readlist or any notable thoughts?

 

[Shurian]

also knowing how scary today is, if Swiss continues this PBAP playstyle, I will not accept him as town
if he adapts to the current situation and actively helps solve the game, and actually rereading the slots
he said he is going to, so I am hoping for some good insight

May I ask what is this PBAP?

 

[Wiisp]

May I ask what is this PBAP?

its when someone goes from post to post, commenting on most if not everything
how towny or scummy it looks is usually based on context, but outside Cantripmancer on MTGS, I have not seen many people do it that I have ever liked
and he is pretty much avoided a lot of real time, ignoring the posts of a confirmed town yada yada (and no I am not playing the victim here, as he seems to think)

 

[Shurian]

Wiisp

What if I say that once the questions above have been answered, I'd be able to churn out a good idea of who the WW/Maf teams are?

 

[Wiisp]

Wiisp

What if I say that once the questions above have been answered, I'd be able to churn out a good idea of who the WW/Maf teams are?

id' say I trust you? lol

 

[Shurian]

I'm trying to lock town in before I finalize my thoughts.

As I've said, Swiss is traitor (and looking moreso).

I also think that Mao, who is L1 wolf (probably), has no strong stances, is the werewolf we want. She seems... frozen right now.

I havent really read the updated thread but the fact that Mao was the one expressing to move away from the Swiss/Rhand incident would make her extremely high up as WW.

Detective Mao What would you think of this theory? If it's not right (and you are town), could I have a reason why you wanted to move away from the first conflict in this game? Why did you respond the way you did in the first 4 pages?

Meme is no answer, as you specifically said "RVS Stage is over so quick" in Page 1.