m2k's Marth?

[Nintendo_lord]

As many people have realised now, since Ken is retired, M2k will probably be the worlds best Marth in Brawl. He already has begun inventing parts of Marth's metagame in Brawl as Ken did in Melee, so where can we find some clips of him fighting?

 

[SiShenDao]

why don't you try asking him yourself? he is a member of the forums.

 

[Fade016]

Ken plays Ike now =p, hes not retired. Brawl is a whole differnt game the good players in melee might not be the best in brawl. I wouldn't assume anything yet.

 

[Niko_K]

The best in melee WILL definitely be near the top of brawl players. Their observational habits and mindgames play a huge role in how well they play, spacing and learning the characters are the easy parts.

 

[Luck-NYC/NJ]

Ken plays Ike now =p, hes not retired. Brawl is a whole differnt game the good players in melee might not be the best in brawl. I wouldn't assume anything yet.

lol m2k is definitely still a god of this game. i think the only safe thing to assume is that m2k will once again be the best if not one of the best players in the world.

tell me an exception in which this hasnt been the case?

(i mean a pro player from melee not being pro in brawl)

 

[JesiahTEG]

Well, idk bout pro players from Melee not being pro in Brawl, but there's a lot of pro players I haven't heard anything about yet, but this is of course probably because Brawl hasn't been out for very long yet lol.

Also, Forte's MK beat Azen, so there's an example of a non melee pro beating a melee pro

Not saying anything bout anyone, I'm just throwing that out there.

 

[Ban Heim]

lol m2k is definitely still a god of this game. i think the only safe thing to assume is that m2k will once again be the best if not one of the best players in the world.

tell me an exception in which this hasnt been the case?

(i mean a pro player from melee not being pro in brawl)

Wow. You use the word "pro" very loosely. Seems like your definition for it is "someone who was pro in melee that happens to play brawl." What exactly makes those melee pros brawl pros? How many tournaments have they won? You can't just assume they're pros because they played melee.

I don't even have to tell you how that isn't the case if you can't give me an example of how it is.

 

[Crizthakidd]

does anyone know why ken retired or something? and yeah M2k willl be a good marth player but idk. it will be werid for him. new pros will arise for brawl. maybe one will be me =) pros wil lcarry on their mindggames and all that tho

 

[Bibbed]

M2K being the best Marth had nothing to do with Ken retiring. M2K's just flat out better.

 

[chaotic002]

ken says he will make videos and record fights in brawl when tournaments start coming up.

 

[Battousai780]

Pro players in Melee = Pro in Brawl. Mindgamez son.

 

[Luck-NYC/NJ]

Wow. You use the word "pro" very loosely. Seems like your definition for it is "someone who was pro in melee that happens to play brawl." What exactly makes those melee pros brawl pros? How many tournaments have they won? You can't just assume they're pros because they played melee.

I don't even have to tell you how that isn't the case if you can't give me an example of how it is.

thats true and i get called on that a lot so i should clarify. when i say pro im usually talking about the players actual skill rather then their status as a player. i know m2k will be pro level because the mindgames and technical ability carry over from melee to brawl. you may not be able to do the same things but in theory it was much harder to do the melee stuff so the brawl stuff will be easier.

but u probably dont even disagree with me that m2k is gonna be pro level lol...

we all know it >_>...

 

[Niko_K]

The best in melee WILL definitely be near the top of brawl players. Their observational habits and mindgames play a huge role in how well they play, spacing and learning the characters are the easy parts.

Pro players in Melee = Pro in Brawl. Mindgamez son.

Quoted for MoFu'ckin truth

 

[Battousai780]

Quoted for MoFu'ckin truth

Im glad someone agrees. I mean, it isn't coincidence that someone such as mew2king could 4 stock most of us with ANY character.

 

[sephirothken]

To tell you guys the truth I'd have to disagree with you guys there. Just because someone is Pro at melee doesn't automatically make them Pro at brawl.

Brawl and Melee are two different games. Some pro's were only pros in melee because of the technical aspects. Brawl doesn't rely too heavily on technical skills, nor can anyone gimp someone as easy as it was in melee. However if you had good mind games in melee, it does carry over to brawl.

A pro like azen for example, would probably be good at brawl since he wasn't very technical in melee and used basic strategies and mind games to win at it. Hence carrying over to brawl since it most likely fits his style more.

btw, I probably have the best marth right now, and am currently undefeated. I can go on the boards and spam all I want and try to get people to kiss my ***, but C'mon really? I don't need to type things out so people can kiss my ***, that's lame. Let's just wait until tournaments like Evo.

 

[rubiksfriend]

Ken is, IMO, much better than M2K. He invented Marth's Melee metagame and possesses the best mindgames that will make him the best, again, at Smash. Besides, M2K was scared to play Ken at Evo. I wonder why...

 

[Miller]

So the legend speaks, Glad to see your back playing Smash, and ill be glad to beat you at EVO, ill be going
Well i probably wont beat you, but its awhile away, we all got time

 

[mikee8728]

Glad to see Ken still playing smash.

 

[Battousai780]

To tell you guys the truth I'd have to disagree with you guys there. Just because someone is Pro at melee doesn't automatically make them Pro at brawl.

Brawl and Melee are two different games. Some pro's were only pros in melee because of the technical aspects. Brawl doesn't rely too heavily on technical skills, nor can anyone gimp someone as easy as it was in melee. However if you had good mind games in melee, it does carry over to brawl.

A pro like azen for example, would probably be good at brawl since he wasn't very technical in melee and used basic strategies and mind games to win at it. Hence carrying over to brawl since it most likely fits his style more.

btw, I probably have the best marth right now, and am currently undefeated. I can go on the boards and spam all I want and try to get people to kiss my ***, but C'mon really? I don't need to type things out so people can kiss my ***, that's lame. Let's just wait until tournaments like Evo.

Shweet, I thought you gave Marth up for Ike. Glad you didn't. Mew2king vs Ken in Brawl = epic.

 

[robman1]

ooh im gonna love wifi!

 

[Iwan]

lol m2k is definitely still a god of this game. i think the only safe thing to assume is that m2k will once again be the best if not one of the best players in the world.

tell me an exception in which this hasnt been the case?

(i mean a pro player from melee not being pro in brawl)

Uhh...it hasn't been the case because.....there's no such thing as brawl pros yet?

lol?


Wait and see how the competition pans out. Brawl will be more popular than melee on a competitive level (see: more people will play), so "no names" will come out and be great. No doubt. Although, i have no question M2K will do, ya know.....kinda okay in brawl. lol (sarcasm for those who dont catch it ha).

 

[bylim5]

To tell you guys the truth I'd have to disagree with you guys there. Just because someone is Pro at melee doesn't automatically make them Pro at brawl.

Brawl and Melee are two different games. Some pro's were only pros in melee because of the technical aspects. Brawl doesn't rely too heavily on technical skills, nor can anyone gimp someone as easy as it was in melee. However if you had good mind games in melee, it does carry over to brawl.

A pro like azen for example, would probably be good at brawl since he wasn't very technical in melee and used basic strategies and mind games to win at it. Hence carrying over to brawl since it most likely fits his style more.

i couldn't agree with you more Ken.
Although i'd say technical skills are more unofficial game exploitations, [haha i never wavedash or did any of that 'technical' stuff]. But yeah, brawl is good for mind games, and i see many 'pro melee players' getting disheartened when they have to go back to fundamentals that they seldom appreciated. in a way, brawl forces you to think before, more.

btw can u PM ur friend code? it'll be an honour to be destroyed by you.

 

[SLAYERCoLdKiLr]

m2k will always be better than you ken. It's true you're marth is better but overall he has more skill and knowledge of the game.

But seriosly, I was OK at melee at best, a philly player that was better than most at melee. In Brawl I havn't seen one person online yet(played some 30 people on SWF) that gave me a legitamate challenge. I space, I play some mindgames, i gimp people off the ledge. Techskill is out so I play marth now and play a much slower game. Everyone that played in tournaments and was just a smart player in melee has an automatic advantage over a new player to begin with, doesn't mean overtime new people will take over.

Also I feel bad for Eggm, SilentWolf, Dashizwiz, and especially m2k that have such amazing technical skill that can't even be seen in brawl, nor ever will. This game will replace techskill with camping, but still smart players will win.

 

[Battousai780]

m2k will always be better than you ken. It's true you're marth is better but overall he has more skill and knowledge of the game.

But seriosly, I was OK at melee at best, a philly player that was better than most at melee. In Brawl I havn't seen one person online yet(played some 30 people on SWF) that gave me a legitamate challenge. I space, I play some mindgames, i gimp people off the ledge. Techskill is out so I play marth now and play a much slower game. Everyone that played in tournaments and was just a smart player in melee has an automatic advantage over a new player to begin with, doesn't mean overtime new people will take over.

Also I feel bad for Eggm, SilentWolf, Dashizwiz, and especially m2k that have such amazing technical skill that can't even be seen in brawl, nor ever will. This game will replace techskill with camping, but still smart players will win.

I'm sure they'll adapt and still be good. Maybe not their former status, but honestly maybe this is a good thing. Although I do feel sad for them. :[ (cept mew2king since he is the master of mindgamez)

 

[sephirothken]

m2k will always be better than you ken. It's true you're marth is better but overall he has more skill and knowledge of the game.

sure, if that's the case, then why is he *****ing so much about brawl and do do do do do I'm lovin it (mcdonalds theme song)

More knowledge, haha, I've been playing smash and competing in tournaments since m2king was still wearing diapers. Skill, how do you define skill? technical abilities? yes I admit he is more techinical, but that's what happens when you practice all day compared to someone who just goes to tournaments without. However f you are talking about the Mind games part of skill, then I don't think so.

case closed.

 

[Battousai780]

sure, if that's the case, then why is he *****ing so much about brawl and do do do do do I'm lovin it (mcdonalds theme song)

More knowledge, haha, I've been playing smash and competiting in tournaments since m2king was still wearing diapers. Skill, how do you define skill? technical abilities? yes I admit he is more techinical, but that's what happens when you practice all day compared to someone who just goes to tournaments without, But if you are talking about the Mind games part of skill, then I don't think so.

case closed.

I really like you better and hope you can own him, but iunno. We'll just have to see!

 

[Buddha]

lawlz owned by ken.

 

[Nightmare KoRn Kid]

Azen is amazing.

added: with Women. It is assumed he is in fact a "pimp"

 

[Epick]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Hoang

Does M2k have one of those?

Seriously though, I don't like to go around and suck pro **** but both Ken and M2K weregodly (so much better than I'll ever be). In my lowly opinion the fact Ken was less technical than several top pros and still managed to win consistently with incredible mind games makes him the better player. Especially considering that Brawl isn't remotely close to as technical Melee and will reward mind game oriented players.

Seriously just look at Ken's tournament record if you have any doubt. Enough said.

 

[KillaOR]

sure, if that's the case, then why is he *****ing so much about brawl and do do do do do I'm lovin it (mcdonalds theme song)

More knowledge, haha, I've been playing smash and competiting in tournaments since m2king was still wearing diapers. Skill, how do you define skill? technical abilities? yes I admit he is more techinical, but that's what happens when you practice all day compared to someone who just goes to tournaments without, But if you are talking about the Mind games part of skill, then I don't think so.

case closed.

KEN I WANT TRAINING!

:DDD

Tell Jenny I said sup!

 

[Battousai780]

KEN I WANT TRAINING!

:DDD

Tell Jenny I said sup!

Woah, you're out of retirement?
(maybe Im a lil behind)

You playing jiggly in Brawl?

 

[skrach8]

i probably have the best marth right now. just putting it out there.

 

[Anth0ny]

sure, if that's the case, then why is he *****ing so much about brawl and do do do do do I'm lovin it (mcdonalds theme song)

More knowledge, haha, I've been playing smash and competiting in tournaments since m2king was still wearing diapers. Skill, how do you define skill? technical abilities? yes I admit he is more techinical, but that's what happens when you practice all day compared to someone who just goes to tournaments without, But if you are talking about the Mind games part of skill, then I don't think so.

case closed.

ROFL

You're a God.

From what I've seen, M2K is not clearly a better Marth player than Ken. Not to kiss anyone's *** or anything, but I've watched a ****ton of videos of Ken, and he's done some pretty amazing things. Not to discredit M2K, he's an amazing player. But I think if Ken is tempted, he'd probably beat your *** hard. He's not the King of Smash for nothing

I like your signature I don't know if I could afford Brawl lessons from you, but hopefully someday I'll gain your respect and play you for free (or at least $5 )

 

[Solid Jake]

sure, if that's the case, then why is he *****ing so much about brawl and do do do do do I'm lovin it (mcdonalds theme song)

More knowledge, haha, I've been playing smash and competiting in tournaments since m2king was still wearing diapers. Skill, how do you define skill? technical abilities? yes I admit he is more techinical, but that's what happens when you practice all day compared to someone who just goes to tournaments without, But if you are talking about the Mind games part of skill, then I don't think so.

case closed.

Hahaha.. win sir, win

Regardless ive seen jasons marth in person, and chris's , theyre both rather good, look forward to seeing you guys play at Evo , aka, come to Evo east ken >_>

 

[marth marth marth]

i probably have the best marth right now. just putting it out there.

How can you say that, when u havent seen mine?

 

[xRisingForce]

To tell you guys the truth I'd have to disagree with you guys there. Just because someone is Pro at melee doesn't automatically make them Pro at brawl.

Brawl and Melee are two different games. Some pro's were only pros in melee because of the technical aspects. Brawl doesn't rely too heavily on technical skills, nor can anyone gimp someone as easy as it was in melee. However if you had good mind games in melee, it does carry over to brawl.

A pro like azen for example, would probably be good at brawl since he wasn't very technical in melee and used basic strategies and mind games to win at it. Hence carrying over to brawl since it most likely fits his style more.

btw, I probably have the best marth right now, and am currently undefeated. I can go on the boards and spam all I want and try to get people to kiss my ***, but C'mon really? I don't need to type things out so people can kiss my ***, that's lame. Let's just wait until tournaments like Evo.

Holy ****. The legend has spoken. Case closed. Why do pages two and three even exist?

 

[JBOMB]

m2k is on these boards

 

[slikvik]

so many fanboys...

 

[Hydde]

so many fanboys...

Definitely.

What he says is true tho, Mindgames is all what u need. If you are better than your rival in that department, you will always win.


Entertaining thread btw :D, im looking forward to see how good this players can get at Brawl..

interesting indeed :D

 

[kek]

Respect where it's due but talk about getting worked up. If you're the greatest, there should be no sense of insecurity or a need to lash out and defend yourself. You wait for tourneys, you win, and you shut people up with statistics, not four letter expletives.