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[m-1, 14, 28] avril lavigne mafia - over

#HBC | FrozeηFlame

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Uh scum would be dumb to lynch inactives.
=|

I'll save myself the trouble of having to rewrite the whole debate and just copypasta what I said from Code Geass:

Post: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=10325265&postcount=694

Oh and after my analogy of the "rock," I was going to write something like:

I'm a bit annoyed that everyone seems to have backed off from wanting to lynch you, which is odd. But your stances are pretty decent.
It's annoying that people backed off of me when I have good stances? Waitwut?

van yes, zensei no.
Thanks for not explaining the distinction.

And by thanks I mean NOT HELPFUL. Why one and not the other?

ive been saying van/zensei since forever

where have you been frozen
Being an inactive PoS, tunneling Omni, and trying to catch up since forever obv. Where have you been? =P

Omni's drunken escapades are like shades of Eor's drunken rampage from SP Mafia II. That adds another layer of not wanting him to live on top of all the convincing the AtE did that he's scum trying to be the loud town hero.

But seriously is there a chance of this Omni wagon moving at all? Because if I'm preaching to deaf ears I won't waste my time and the thread space trying to convince you guys with more Omni analysis.
 
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the best scum strategy is to blatantly kill everyone who suspects you

yeah frozen i think you/omni (maybe you can work on your case in your spare time and over night and then post it d3 or something? i severely doubt omni lynchll happen in so little time right now) might be a battle for another day. like im way more interested in hearing you expand on van/zensei cuz that seems like it can actually happen today and more pressure on them sounds good

im a bit weirded out that ive been tunneled on van/zensei for a while and now you are too tho

@mod its been 48+ hours since macmans last post. requesting prod
 

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the best scum strategy is to blatantly kill everyone who suspects you
lol WIFOM

yeah frozen i think you/omni (maybe you can work on your case in your spare time and over night and then post it d3 or something? i severely doubt omni lynchll happen in so little time right now) might be a battle for another day. like im way more interested in hearing you expand on van/zensei cuz that seems like it can actually happen today and more pressure on them sounds good

im a bit weirded out that ive been tunneled on van/zensei for a while and now you are too tho

@mod its been 48+ hours since macmans last post. requesting prod
Trust me if it's just going to be a distraction today I'll drop it but come D3 if I make it there, I'll post some more analysis on his most recent stuff.

I planned on going through Van/Zen again anyway so I could actually figure out who the better play is between the two since right now my scum list is like Omni>>>>>>>> Van=Zen

I'll get some more detailed analysis done once I do that.

And lolwat at you saying I'm tunneling Van/Zen now? How am I tunneling them lol? I never knew you could tunnel 3 people at once, especially since like compared to Omni those two are almost afterthoughts lol.
 

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@MK: I'm just curious, but did you miss my #804?

It's annoying that people backed off of me when I have good stances? Waitwut?
>.>

I gotta think more before I post. I meant that a lot of players came to a consensus that you should be lynched, but now they've decided they like your stances so they've dropped it.
 

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Vote Count 21

Zensei (2) - MarshEE, Macman

Meta-Kirby (3) - Rockin, Vanderzant, Nicholas1024
Omni (1) - Frozenflame
Frozenflame (1) - Tom
Macman (1) -
Overswarm
Not Voting (3) - Zensei, Omni, Meta-Kirby

With 11 Alive, It Takes A Vote Of 6 To Lynch!

Deadline is Friday, August 6th at 11:59:59 PM EST.
 

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No I didn't, I just think you're too hung up on the fact that you are somewhere (not 1st) on my scum list. Move on and focus on scumhunting, not the ideal that I've got my eye on you.
 

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back from V/lA

so are we lynching Frozen or Mac
 

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also, scum NKing an inactive is pretty dumb FF

rockin what do you expect to gauge from MK asking him Q's about his previous games?
 
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And lolwat at you saying I'm tunneling Van/Zen now? How am I tunneling them lol? I never knew you could tunnel 3 people at once, especially since like compared to Omni those two are almost afterthoughts lol.
i meant like

"im a bit weirded out that ive been tunneled on van/zensei for awhile and now youre ON THEM too tho"

btw can you do the van/zensei thing anytime soon? deadlines friday

also rockin meta-kirby is emotional as town as hes described. what do you have to say in response to his justification for being emotional here?

meta-kirby why arent you voting anyone?
 

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I'm not one to toss my vote around until closer to the deadline, when I can solidify what I believe is my final choice.
 

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unvote vote mk

remind me again, you were the one to claim vanilla for no reason, right
 

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you don't seem to be taking much initiative to solidify your vote, MK.

do you mean you're not one to put your vote on to anyone until you can conveniently place it on the most recent wagon?
 

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Overswarm, you've been defending me for a while now. Why is this? What have I done differently than Mac, that makes you want to keep me over Mac while we have lacked contribution to the game?


My other top two choice though are Zensei and vanderzant in that order.

I'm still reviewing Zensei but this post kind of summarizes the vibe I get from his play:

It's like this very backseat approach with a tendency to deflect attention. Like in this post He goes from saying "Oh I must've missed Macman" suggesting he really doesn't know much about him or has a very good read, to eventually casting some suspicion on Macman by tossing out an alleged contradiction and a perceived flaw in his expression of reads. It very much makes me feel like Zensei is content to answer questions as they come and then just say "oh hey look over here at this little thing! It could be nothing buuuuuuut, etc. etc." and like just nudge at people.
I didn't read the last few pages of the Day which is when Omni goes into Mac. I didn't suggest that I didn't know about Mac, I suggested that I didn't know about Omni's suspicion for Mac. It's intriguing that you are trying to pull something out from this. I said what I thought about Mac because I had been suspicious of him as well. It would look hella odd if I asked Omni why he was voting for Mac like I was clueless and then said 'oh I think he is suspicious too' without giving reasoning of my own. I'm not just pointing out little things, I'm simply stating my opinions.

....Are we there yet?
Was this directed at me??

I'm not one to toss my vote around until closer to the deadline, when I can solidify what I believe is my final choice.
This is pretty scummy yo. Are you saying you saying that you are only able to solidify your final vote near the deadline? And why is it so important to you that you only have one vote choice?



i think you claimed townie
doesn't townie just mean town aligned? I didn't take that as him claiming vanilla. I was wonder where people were getting that from..
 

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Because in Code Geass, I think he played fair/semi poor compared to SSBM and in Code Geass, he was pressured on D2 for not voting who he wanted to vote (in that game, he was scum). In that game, he didn't respond too well to pressure, and I'm seeing that here in this game.

i'm not going to hold your hand, meta-kirby. and this is also another time where you've asked a question that i don't think has much substance or thought behind it. it's like your way of saying, "i'm trying to do something" but you're not really doing anything

unvote
Vote: Meta-Kirby

btw, i refuse to believe that you couldn't come up with an educated guess as to why i voted Xonar. i dont feel like that question was a real attempt to gain clarity just like most of the questions you've been asking
*siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh*
I'm not trying to do anything except get your reasoning. I'm sorry you're such a stingy person. V_V Lord.

Omni, what the **** do you want me to do? Everyone is already voting Macman for OBVIOUS reasons, I don't think it's necessary for me to also place my vote on him.
You don't have to hold my hand. Besides, Xonar is V/LA, and I feel you're just trying to dabble everyone's name in a little bit of scum. ^_^. Does that have any effect? I suppose not.
very emotional response considering i made a logical explanation for why i voted you.

are you stressed?
Um, no? How was that emotional? I'm just easily annoyed.
oh, sorry.

cursing, using the lord's name in vain, sighing, intentional sarcasm, caps locking, expressing emotions with faces, and a slight hint of OMGUS'ing. i'm going to assume that you're too blind to see how your last post spoke volumes of emotion... because you're being emotional.

so far you've only been sitting back and answering questions and casually throwing out questions that i find to be rather weak and phony.

so i wont ask you question in this post. my vote is on you for the reason explained above. lets see how you move on and play this game of mafia



@Metakirby: thanks for letting us know how useful/helpful you intend to be when a little pressure is put on you
At this point, the whole topic could've been avoided if MK responded with a clear head. I feel that Townie MK wouldn't try to start anything (at least not so early) with anyone. I'm sure he would want to scum hunt and see what he could dig up

But he burried himself a bit deeper here

Meh, the pictures weren't supposed to disregard the whole case, it's just the fact that he tries to justify emotions based on HOW I Typed something, which I feel is annoying. Don't try to convince me of something that I know i didn't do.
I was simply just asking, and this happened. Lawl.
Omni, if you wanna lynch me, go ahead ^_^ It'll just be oneee lesss towniee.
Why type this? I can't see Townie MK do this

You just make people NOT want to play.
I'll be honest, I was very disappointed when i joined this game and it ended up being Avril Lavigne themed. It's a dumb meme among a select group of individuals, and like EE said, I can find NOTHNG less fitting than she.
So yeah, that's why i'm not all up in this game. You being yourseld doesn't help.
Should I ask what those reasons are, or is Omni the Question-Cop gonna put me back in Shame Prison?

Aside from doing a second AtE in D2, he has barely taken a stance, and hasn't done anything that seemed pro town.

His response to how useful he can be is...bleh. 'I can't do too well now, but let me live and I'll be awesome at catching scum' is what I read his reason as. We don't want to catch scum D4+. We need to catch them from now to the next day and behond.

So yeah, just remember, he can be emotional as Mafia as well.

My vote is still staying on him.
 

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townie means vanilla.

but also, someone called him out on it and he said "well im playing different this game" so i thought he legitimized it
 

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@Zensei: No not at you, I just think that once Frozen tells me why I'm scummy, we can all vote and call it a day. The deadlines are almost 2 weeks long iirc, and a lot of people seem to be dieing from boredom.
 

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rockin, can u show us an example of MK being emotional as scum?

@tom: i didnt think he was claiming vanilla. just townie.
 

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Was out of town for the weekend and my new apartment didn't have internet and I was killed in two other games during my absence. LET IT BE KNOWN: ON THE WEEKENDS I DISAPPEAR.

Geeze.
 

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Alright Omni. I'd like to give a quick summery of what the pressure was about.

In the near beginning of D1 in Code Geass, we was having a bit of discussion about the Mechanics and flavor. The basic mechanic of said game is that three of the players were in a neiborizing group. Vult was soon pressured for him being scummy due to poor responses (it got even worse for him when he claimed Neighbor with Frozen, thus everyone come to realization that they were somewhat in a neighbor with someone). Meta Kirby explains that he would vote for Vult...but in the end, he never did.

D2 refreshes that commitment he was suppose to do

On 965, there was a bit of AtE there. Same with 970. I think he wasn't pressured (or at least as hard) after that Day
 

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How does that show that I'm emotional as scum, Rockin? I'm reckless as scum, as you seen, that shows no emotion.
 

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Rockin focuses on all the wrong aspects. MKirby is always going over the top with AtE and/or anger. He's like a middle school girl being called fat, or my girlfriend if someone makes fun of her cooking. It's just a natural thing.

What is MORE important is the context in which he gets emotional. A town MK will get emotional when being pressured for something he can't defend against. A scum MK will get emotional when being pressured for something that he can't defend against because it's true. There's a fine line, and I think MK's emotional outbursts are more of a spotlight and less of a verdict.

I have some reading to do.
 

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Alright, I'm here. I'm still content with my vote on MK, let me go over the last few pages again to see if anything else from the recent discussion catches my eye.
 

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What is MORE important is the context in which he gets emotional. A town MK will get emotional when being pressured for something he can't defend against. A scum MK will get emotional when being pressured for something that he can't defend against because it's true. There's a fine line, and I think MK's emotional outbursts are more of a spotlight and less of a verdict.
There's no way others can know if it is true though so then how are people supposed to go off context? There's not really a fine line there, you're basically saying the same thing.
 

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There's no way others can know if it is true though so then how are people supposed to go off context? There's not really a fine line there, you're basically saying the same thing.
Cross referencing solves this problem.


I don't know who I want to hear more from now.
 

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Wagon to claim. People need to start voting on their lynch choice.
 

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Staying on macman for now, want to hear more from him.

Macman, can you gives us some insight as to how you see this game?
 

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vote: frozen

thought my vote was here a while back
 

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You're comfortable with an endgame with Frozen/Mac?

Uh zensei maybe. Vander I'm leaning comfy.
 
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