[M-1, 10, 13] Taco City Takeout: Game Over

[#HBC | Gorf]

Lmfao i didn't really notice it till today.

@Mod does the lynch on Rockin count, since you weren't here to state the deadline, or will Zen and Chibo's votes not count?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

EBWOP

to state the end of day scene,

 

[Chaco]

A deadline is a deadline, and has been listed in the title for some time. However, I'll talk to Xiivi tomorrow.

Consider this Nighttime, so do NOT post.

 

[Chaco]

End of Day 2:

After the hectic dinner rush, the store was finally about to close. It seems as if they'd rest easy today, as no taco was decided upon. The managers stomach growled as he called and ordered takeout.

This day ended in a No Lynch
Actions are due on Friday, Jul 30th at 11:59:59

 

[Xiivi]

Via request.

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[Chaco]

Night 2 (told from the Chinese Takeout's POV):

"I've never seen anything like it. A massacre of taco on taco. What made it worse...was it was like the victim enjoyed it... It was an utter tragedy, watching as he was destroyed among those pleasured screams...I know there was sadness. You could tell it was there, just not revealed. Like he was hiding it deep inside somewhere. But I had my suspicions...to bad there was nothing I could do to save him."

"This is where I found his remains...such a poor, poor soul."/

Rockin, the Regular Taco, has been demolished.

Day 3 Starts.
Day 3 Ends On: Sunday August 8th, at 11:59 pm EST
3/5 To Lynch!
Chibo, Frozen, Gordito, Swiss, Zensei are alive.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Do. Not. Vote. We are probably in lylo. Deaths on both nights is making me think we either have a solo yak or 2 man scum.

Do people want to mass claim

 

[CT Chia]

Just realized some deaths are regular tacos when some are townies

is this just an oversight of the mod and the regular tacos are also town?

 

[Xivii]

Yeah regular tacos are just town. My bad for not making the deadline, it was probably for the best any who.

 

[Xivii]

I don't mind a mass claim at this point. There's not much else to go on. Although I am a bit suspicious of Gordo. Chibo is fuzzy to me as well.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Here's what I see:

Chibo, for two days in a row, tried to get the last vote in for the lynch.

Riddle was suspicious of Chibo, as well as Rockin. And, they were both NK'd.

X1 and Rockin have something in common, as well as a big difference: Chibo had the lynching vote on both, but Rockin's lynch was too late, thank god.

Steak Taco sure does sound to me like a pretty convincing type of taco to be in the game. And maybe he's pulled the wool over our shoulders.

I'm gonna be as blunt as possible when I say this: As of now, I'm almost 100% sure that Chibo's scum. And if anybody's ready, I'm cool to lynch him (unless of course some more information comes out, but it'll take a lot to convince me that he is, in fact, not scum).

My opinion on the setup has changed too. We would've lost as of now if there was a Mafia Recruiter and a Serial Killer. I think it's a basic two scum setup.

And Zensei, what about me makes you suspicious?

 

[Xivii]

You've been back and forth for me since the beginning. It's mostly hunchish though. I do however agree with you on Chibo. I didn't even realize Riddle found him suspicious. Or that Chibo had the hammer on both.

The whole set up thing has been sketchy.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Yea. Riddle was suspicious of him since the beginning, and had the vote on him (if I'm not mistaken) until the end of D1.

But ultimately, I don't think we should assume anything about the setup. I think the best thing for us is to assume we're in lylo. And to not just throw a vote around.

I didn't see myself being too back and forth on decisions. But everybody's been saying that. I'll try my best to be more straight foward with everything.

 

[Swiss]

Hold up.

What happened to the scum team getting bigger?

 

[CT Chia]

Gordito you can't blame me for the last vote on Rockin, Zensei did the same. It's beneficial for town to get some kind of lynch and I wasn't really the one that pushed it anyway.

Someone mentioned a Yakuza role, I forget what that is. Isn't that a scum role that can recruit or kill?

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

@ Mod: Can we get a clarification as to exactly what alignment "Regular Tacos" are? Both times Regular Tacos have flipped there has been no color designation nor an alignment reveal like there was with X1's "Town Creampuff" flip.

Hopefully this is fair game for clarification because it is kind of important if we've been losing townies or something like cult members are getting NK'd or something.

A yakuza as I've typically seen it is a mafia member who is capable of NKing as per normal but once per game, instead of Nking, he can choose to suicide overnight and by doing so convert another player to the mafia faction.

Hold up.

What happened to the scum team getting bigger?

What the hell does this mean dude? Explain.

Zensei said he's cool with a mass claim. Swiss and Gordito are you guy cool with it? We should determine the order vote style. List the 3 unclaimed players (other than yourself) in the order you'd like them to claim. First vote gets 3 points, 2nd gets 2, 3rd gets 1. Then we claim in order of points.

Here's my order:

1.) Swiss
2.) Gordito
3.) Zensei

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I'm more than fine with a mass claim. Your unknowing of what alignment a Regular Taco makes me want you to claim first, though:

1) Frozen
2) Zensei
3) Swiss

Oh, and just for the record, I think we can all agree upon the fact that there is not a single mafia recruiter and a serial killer?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Gordito you can't blame me for the last vote on Rockin, Zensei did the same. It's beneficial for town to get some kind of lynch and I wasn't really the one that pushed it anyway.

Actually, it is printed boldly in the forum that you hammered Rockin, so yes, I can blame you for the last vote. Zen just happened to put him at L-1.

And the fact that you didn't push it makes it even more suspicious. You didn't push X1's lynch so much, but you got the hammer. If you don't believe somebody should be lynched, then don't lynch them. You don't have to do the popular thing.

And talking about beneficial to town? Doing what other people want is totally unbeneficial to town. The fact that I was the only one that stuck to my opinion on not voting Rockin was beneficial to town. The fact that I just showed all of the stuff that's happened the past two days and nights, and how it relates to you, is beneficial to town.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

How do we know that we don't have a maf recruiter and an SK? Or some other indy?

I don't think there is anyway we can conclude that for certain atm. With three factions alive like that determining when endgame happens can be tricky so there isn't really much a way to tell. Unless I'm missing something obvious.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Everybody that has died has been town aligned (and yes, reg tacos are town aligned).

So if there was an indy and Mafia Recruiter, there'd be 3 Mafia, which would cause to lose already. And I doubt the Maria Recruiter would have the option to kill or recruit.

That's just me though. We might just have a simple 2 scum game. I won't have better knowledge until the Mass Claim.

 

[Swiss]

What the hell does this mean dude? Explain.

You said there had to be a one or two man scum team (I agree). But this means the recruit ability has to at least not have been used. Why?. What scum wouldn't recruit?



I have no problem with a mass claim. Order coming soon.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I agree with Swiss completely.

And the fact that we're still in with five people means there has to be at least two scum in.

 

[Chaco]

Regular Tacos are the Vanilla Townie Role.

 

[Swiss]

And the fact that we're still in with five people means there has to be at least two scum in.

Could be one scum. But we should assume two - for the purposes of the day.

 

[Swiss]

I've tried to make a list. I have no idea who to put down.

1. Zen
2. Gordito


This game and day are stale. Something needs to happen.


What do people think of the NK? In retrospect I shouldn't have said I thought he was town. Pro gamer.

 

[X1-12]

¡Vaya vaya el pueblo de la ciudad de taco!

 

[Riddle]

Lol so late X1

 

[Swiss]

Changed my mind


1. Frozen
2. Zen
3. Gordito

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

So, the points are:

6 Frozen
5 Zen
4 Swiss
3 Gordito

I really hope Zensei puts his vote in by today, so we can just get this massclaim over with.

 

[Swiss]

Lol..my vote looks so contrived now I look at the overall scores.

 

[Chaco]

Zen is on V/LA, for a trip to the mountains. He said he'd be back in a few days.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

What about we just do the massclaim without Zen for right now, and save him for last? So the order will be:

Frozen
Swiss
Gordito
Zensei

I don't mind too much.

I'm gonna be at a tournament all day, so I won't be here to claim until later.

 

[Swiss]

Hm.

I'd have liked to hear his claim, but we'd stall WAY too much.

 

[Swiss]

Plus Chibo should def. still say who he wants to claim first. Just because he isn't claiming, doesn't mean he shouldn't have a say in the order.

 

[CT Chia]

My pic for first would be Zensei or FF likely

 

[Swiss]

Could you make a list of three?

Then we can add up the scores and claim.

 

[CT Chia]

ok and you

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

So...

Frozen
Swiss
Gordito
Zensei

that's the list?

If so, FF go on and claim.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Everybody that has died has been town aligned (and yes, reg tacos are town aligned).

So if there was an indy and Mafia Recruiter, there'd be 3 Mafia, which would cause to lose already. And I doubt the Maria Recruiter would have the option to kill or recruit.

That's just me though. We might just have a simple 2 scum game. I won't have better knowledge until the Mass Claim.

How the **** did you know this conclusively before Chaco clarified it? There was absolutely NO ALIGNMENT DENOTATION for either of the regular taco flips. How could you possibly know for sure that regular taco means town? Know something we don't perhaps?

You said there had to be a one or two man scum team (I agree). But this means the recruit ability has to at least not have been used. Why?. What scum wouldn't recruit?

Because waiting till the absolute last minute to use something like a one shot recruitment (like a yakuza) is the riskiest but also hardest to beat. If someone JUST got swapped to mafia at the last minute so that they have been town all game but are now scum in LYLO, there is NOTHING in the game prior that they had to do as scum that you can use to deduce they are scum. You literally are left with NOTHING to go on as far as player interactions are concerned and just have to outguess the scum's WIFOM to win which is HUGELY scum favored.

If we do in fact have something like a yakuza in this game, if he hasn't felt the lynch pressure at all and wasn't afraid of going down anytime soon, his best play is to wait just as he has been doing if he does in fact exist.

I agree with Swiss completely.

And the fact that we're still in with five people means there has to be at least two scum in.

Wat. Because there are 5 people left and it isn't game over means there MUST be 2 scum? Wat? That makes NO sense. There could easily be a solo yakuza + an indy perhaps, or maybe just a yak. Not saying 2 man scum team doesn't make sense but how the hell do you know that for sure? You seem to know a hell of a lot gordito. Mad scummy ****.

I've tried to make a list. I have no idea who to put down.

1. Zen
2. Gordito

DUDE. There are FIVE players left, 1 of which is YOU and 1 of which has already claimed. How the hell could you not know who to put down? lol.... so much scum in this game...

What about we just do the massclaim without Zen for right now, and save him for last? So the order will be:

Frozen
Swiss
Gordito
Zensei

I don't mind too much.

I'm gonna be at a tournament all day, so I won't be here to claim until later.

Why would we give Zensei a free pass to have the luxury of claiming last? Trying to help your scumbuddy out maybe?

How do you "not mind"? Having everyone go first and giving someone a free after the fact position completely undermines the concept of a mass claim. Plus it's not like claiming early is going to let us move on faster because the whole point is to have EVERY player claim and see all the other claims so that CC's can happen if applicable and so that we have the maximum amount of information to work with before to proceed, especially in LYLO or likely LYLO.

I'm not claiming 'till Zensei gets back and that's final.

Chibo yeah you can feel free to pick your top 3 choices for claiming of the remainingg 4 unclaimed players. We'll tally your votes like everyone elses.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Yea? Maybe BECAUSE I'm one???

Ever thought of that?