KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I should really get my name changed to LuigiLover62
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Luigi QA - RIP Mark Dunstan "Marky-Mark"
- Thread starter Pakman
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Vist
Smash Champion
What happened to LuigiLover1 through 61?
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Poliwag tackled them.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Because 1 through 61 were viciously murdered by Poliwag tackles.
Bamesy
Smash Ace
62 had water gun...
so poliwag accepted it as NOT enemy?
I'm scurred...
so poliwag accepted it as NOT enemy?
I'm scurred...
"Past" doesn't just mean time. "Passed" is like you're saying "I passed the ball to him." You get "past" an obstacle, not "passed" it.
Bamesy
Smash Ace
ah my bad
*is noob not paying attention*
TY :D
*is noob not paying attention*
TY :D
good answer
Winston
Smash Master
So I decided I should give learning the >50% chaingrab on space animals another try.
Can any of you do it really consistently?
Can any of you do it really consistently?
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
The wavedash cg? I thought it only work on FD.
Bamesy
Smash Ace
Why cg when you can KEEL DEM >:D
Nicknyte
Smash Lord
I haven't done it in a couple years. I might give it a whirl against Vectorman tonight.
So guys, leading up to Pound 5, I want us all to be sharp with our Luigis. Let's see how high we place!
I have a concern - how do you guys approach the Peach matchup? I was playing lloD and he switched his style up a little bit to incorporate more aerials. I'm having trouble getting past Fairs, and his Nairs/Bairs mess up Luigi's combos real good. They just come out too quickly.
I have a concern - how do you guys approach the Peach matchup? I was playing lloD and he switched his style up a little bit to incorporate more aerials. I'm having trouble getting past Fairs, and his Nairs/Bairs mess up Luigi's combos real good. They just come out too quickly.
Luigi_Lova62
Smash Journeyman
Okay I am a noob when it comes to tournaments cause i've only been to one tourney in 2008 at my area, but what are Pounds? Is it a like a money match tournament?
No, Pound is just the name of the tournament series. There have been 4 so far and they've gotten increasingly popular. Pound 4 was definitely one of the biggest tournaments to date, and was one of the earlier tournaments that brought in players from Europe (I think it was the 2nd after Genesis or RoM? I forget). Pound 5 is the final installment and will definitely be HUGE and epic. I would go if I were you, even if just to spectate.
Vist
Smash Champion
blea nooooooooooooooooooo
there should be a bring blea to pound 5 thread like they made for armada
Hmmm, not really sure if I understand what you're having trouble with. Whenever you get new vids up with your bro, I can try to give my 2 cents about it.
But from what you have said, it sounds like if your combos are getting messed up by peach's nair/bair, you are probably going for unsafe attacks.
Palpi
Smash Hero
everyone should go to pound!
One vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOzth2Mz6nI
This was after I had thought about the MU a bit. I played a bit safer, chased Peach in the air less, and it paid off.
This was after I had thought about the MU a bit. I played a bit safer, chased Peach in the air less, and it paid off.
Lordydennek
Smash Ace
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=11950136#post11950136
Luigi has lost a very special player
Luigi has lost a very special player
I am sorry for your loss, man.
Nicknyte
Smash Lord
Should we as weegee players go to V with pink weegees?
DuckPimp
Smash Ace
All Pound5 luigi games will be for Marky-Mark
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
...Hello..?
Vist
Smash Champion
this thread is so dead haha
if there's any question though I may actually put enough effort into answering one
if there's any question though I may actually put enough effort into answering one
Wenbobular
Smash Hero
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This forum is dead
Step it up Luigis
Step it up Luigis
Winston
Smash Master
What's there to talk about? Just wavedash at them with a smash, they'll miss the tech, smash again, they won't DI it, etc...
weslo
Smash Apprentice
we could talk about motivation. it's all about believing hard enough.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
Vist
Smash Champion
Here's something I'd like to discuss with the other luigis:
What are the best options for following up jab resets? The main idea is to kill or rack up damage obviously..
It can be pretty situational, but up until recently I almost always dsmashed or maybe with the occasional sh nair or up B depending on the character / percentage.
Grabbing seems pretty good as long as you can ensure a follow-up hit / combo but I realized I rarely do this as luigi compared to other characters. Uthrow to wd fair / dair should work as long as you don't mess up the wd / spacing / timing regardless of di. You can try going past them -> grabbing them from the other side if you need room to account for proper di.
Utilts seem to be pretty good but I have to experiment with this more against actual opponents. Dem CPUS love em lol. The first and possibly the last frames of the hitbox are so low it really just scoops people up haha..
not sure what else...
Usmash? A pretty good kill move and potentially a combo starter..
Fsmash? Sometimes a decent killing move but also feels like it sends opponents FAR regardless.
Dtilt? Haha I never use this but maybe it would lead to something. I doubt it can ever be a better option than the rest.
A realllllllly late sh uair possibly?
Also I don't usually intend on doing it, but jab resets with the dash attack are pretty interesting. I can't tell how viable it is against opponents who hold up or w/e to break out of the resets. It's a little bit harder to set-up I guess but it adds a few extra percentage (which may not be good if it puts them to a high enough percentage to break free)
What are the best options for following up jab resets? The main idea is to kill or rack up damage obviously..
It can be pretty situational, but up until recently I almost always dsmashed or maybe with the occasional sh nair or up B depending on the character / percentage.
Grabbing seems pretty good as long as you can ensure a follow-up hit / combo but I realized I rarely do this as luigi compared to other characters. Uthrow to wd fair / dair should work as long as you don't mess up the wd / spacing / timing regardless of di. You can try going past them -> grabbing them from the other side if you need room to account for proper di.
Utilts seem to be pretty good but I have to experiment with this more against actual opponents. Dem CPUS love em lol. The first and possibly the last frames of the hitbox are so low it really just scoops people up haha..
not sure what else...
Usmash? A pretty good kill move and potentially a combo starter..
Fsmash? Sometimes a decent killing move but also feels like it sends opponents FAR regardless.
Dtilt? Haha I never use this but maybe it would lead to something. I doubt it can ever be a better option than the rest.
A realllllllly late sh uair possibly?
Also I don't usually intend on doing it, but jab resets with the dash attack are pretty interesting. I can't tell how viable it is against opponents who hold up or w/e to break out of the resets. It's a little bit harder to set-up I guess but it adds a few extra percentage (which may not be good if it puts them to a high enough percentage to break free)
Winston
Smash Master
For jab resets, it's important to note that Falcon always gets forced into a neutral stand by Luigi's jab (unless he is holding up or up on the C stick, then he will pop up with no stun). Space animals can always do any of the 4 actions, depending on what they are pressing. So for Falcon you can do some tricker things, whereas for spacies you should just react and take whichever hit presents itself imo.
With that out of the way, you pretty much always have grab vs. dsmash as options.
I prefer grab at low percents (i.e. if they would hit the ground again from dsmash before you recover from lag), dsmash at the percents slightly higher than that (like at the percents where it could combo into grab or utilt), and then grab after that.
It all depends on what your opponent lets you do though. If they never DI the throw then grab is pretty much always the best choice. If you can't get a read on their DI then a mix is probably the best. Dsmash/Usmash makes for a nice mixup, as dsmash beats DI behind and usmash beats DI away.
I wouldn't generally go for nair or utilt out of jab reset unless it was at mid percents because they can crouch cancel those. Utilt seems good at mid percents. I'm not a big fan of nair in combos unless you can set it up so that it hits with the really weak hit, which defeats the purpose here (cause they could cc it).
Something like late dair could be interesting because you could follow that up with a wd into another aerial.
I don't think dash attack reset is any good because holding up breaks them out really easily. It's so laggy that if they break out they'll get a hit on you. Even if they break out of the regular jab reset you can probably hit them again if you're fast, and it'll at least force them to shield or roll or something.
TBH I don't even like jab resets all that much vs. space animals for the most part. It feels less guaranteed than dsmash, which you can react with as well. It's higher reward but less consistent. Feel free to go nuts with it vs. Falcon though, as most people probably won't be holding up.
With that out of the way, you pretty much always have grab vs. dsmash as options.
I prefer grab at low percents (i.e. if they would hit the ground again from dsmash before you recover from lag), dsmash at the percents slightly higher than that (like at the percents where it could combo into grab or utilt), and then grab after that.
It all depends on what your opponent lets you do though. If they never DI the throw then grab is pretty much always the best choice. If you can't get a read on their DI then a mix is probably the best. Dsmash/Usmash makes for a nice mixup, as dsmash beats DI behind and usmash beats DI away.
I wouldn't generally go for nair or utilt out of jab reset unless it was at mid percents because they can crouch cancel those. Utilt seems good at mid percents. I'm not a big fan of nair in combos unless you can set it up so that it hits with the really weak hit, which defeats the purpose here (cause they could cc it).
Something like late dair could be interesting because you could follow that up with a wd into another aerial.
I don't think dash attack reset is any good because holding up breaks them out really easily. It's so laggy that if they break out they'll get a hit on you. Even if they break out of the regular jab reset you can probably hit them again if you're fast, and it'll at least force them to shield or roll or something.
TBH I don't even like jab resets all that much vs. space animals for the most part. It feels less guaranteed than dsmash, which you can react with as well. It's higher reward but less consistent. Feel free to go nuts with it vs. Falcon though, as most people probably won't be holding up.
Wenbobular
Smash Hero
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Yeah, jab reset to miss the hold up into up-b for easy star KOs wooooooo
Winston
Smash Master
I only do that vs. Falcon. At the percents where they it KOs spacies imo it's too likely they'll just be holding some random direction or button and they won't neutral getup.
Vudujin
Smash Lord
I think sh nair is the best option out of jab reset cause it's just extra damage. you can follow up with anything.
And dash attack is AWESOME
And dash attack is AWESOME
Rappster
Smash Ace
hey guys.
after going to my first tournament (genesis 2) and getting absolutely *****, i decided i'm no longer a marth main, but instead i'm gonna be a doc/luigi double main.
what are good things for me to practice?
after going to my first tournament (genesis 2) and getting absolutely *****, i decided i'm no longer a marth main, but instead i'm gonna be a doc/luigi double main.
what are good things for me to practice?
jab reset -> shoryuken IMO. that ****'s classy.
Rappster
Smash Ace
isn't that only good at ko pct?
Classiness is good at all %s.
I feel like my knowledge of this character is stale since I haven't played in tournament in some time.
I feel like my knowledge of this character is stale since I haven't played in tournament in some time.