C.Olimar788
Smash Ace
I like Ness, at least partially since I liked him a lot in Melee. I really like bair and dair and his f-smash is better than Lucas'.
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Lucas or Ness?
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Red Arremer
Smash Legend
I like them both. Pretty equally. Though Ness will always hold a piece of my heart, I played him since SSB64 to piss people off because noone was able to use him properly.
Levitas
the moon
Kind of. Usually Ness is kinda stuck if he hits a shield.
greenflame88
Smash Cadet
Lucas FTW. (I was trying NOT to be biased =])
Lucas beats Ness in recovery skills, especially PK Thunder. <--- Lucas
I like Ness' PK Fire, because it lasts longer, but Lucas' PK Fire has greater range and knockback. <--- Lucas
I Like Ness' PK Flash, because it is easier to control and KO's a lot easier than PK Freeze <--- Ness
Up A: Lucas wins, because it is SO strong, lasts SO long, and has GREAT range for an Up A. <--- Lucas
Down A: I hate Ness' Yo-yo (IMO it sucks). Lucas' has three powerful shots even if it is only one direction. <--- Lucas
Side A: Ness' is more powerful and has BARELY better knockback, however Lucas' is better after it gets used consistently. <--- Ness
(I'm not continuing into Bair and Nair and stuff...)
So Lucas wins....
Lucas beats Ness in recovery skills, especially PK Thunder. <--- Lucas
I like Ness' PK Fire, because it lasts longer, but Lucas' PK Fire has greater range and knockback. <--- Lucas
I Like Ness' PK Flash, because it is easier to control and KO's a lot easier than PK Freeze <--- Ness
Up A: Lucas wins, because it is SO strong, lasts SO long, and has GREAT range for an Up A. <--- Lucas
Down A: I hate Ness' Yo-yo (IMO it sucks). Lucas' has three powerful shots even if it is only one direction. <--- Lucas
Side A: Ness' is more powerful and has BARELY better knockback, however Lucas' is better after it gets used consistently. <--- Ness
(I'm not continuing into Bair and Nair and stuff...)
So Lucas wins....
Supersmasher10310
Smash Cadet
Lucas's Smash attacks have a greater range and are more powerful then Ness's. The one thing I can give to Ness is is more irritating PK Fire Attack.
prOAPC
Smash Lord
if funny to read this kind of thread and realise that most people don't have a clue of low tier characters
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poekmon
Really. Lucas < Ness
cobralink101
Smash Rookie
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Ness definately... and you can always reverse your PK thunder direction to mix things up, also Ness Back Throw so Awesome
prOAPC
Smash Lord
no no, that's not the point, what i mean are those comments like "Ness' Psi magnet covers both side of Ness, while Lucas' doesn't" or "their tilts are pretty the same" and when they talk about Lucas killing moves, they think Lucas only has his Usmash
Red Arremer
Smash Legend
Yea, that's people who played Lucas or Ness in Single Player, had a maximum of one or two matches with them and read a thread or two on Smashboards and think they know everything of the character.
PKNintendo
Smash Master
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Siggable. Definitely siggable.
Red Arremer
Smash Legend
I aim to please.
CbGreiga
Smash Apprentice
I've mained Ness since 64 but I love Lucas' smashes.
That and I liked Mother 3 better than Earthbound.
That and I liked Mother 3 better than Earthbound.
I am a person fan of ness over lucas
lucas does have other ko's such as n-air into f-smash or n-air into down smash
both of them have problems with their recovery but it always seemed like ness is better at approaching
lucas does have other ko's such as n-air into f-smash or n-air into down smash
both of them have problems with their recovery but it always seemed like ness is better at approaching
Oops (ssb)
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lucas sir....
Boofy!
Smash Champion
I use Lucas primarily.. I mained him until I found the wonderful primate that is DDK
I feel Lucas has wayy more options than Ness at any given time, better recovery, useful AT's, and minndgammeess out the wazoo.. Lucas is all about spacing, and Ness is all about the combos
I feel Lucas has wayy more options than Ness at any given time, better recovery, useful AT's, and minndgammeess out the wazoo.. Lucas is all about spacing, and Ness is all about the combos
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poekmon
Oh, I see. And I agree. Since I mostly pick Random, I have to learn how to play both.
But Ness IS better in my opinion.
greenflame88
Smash Cadet
I main Lucas, but I can play with both of them. I just like Lucas better. I never even used Lucas in the SE, lol.
PKNintendo
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Indeed. I shall moniter you for more siggable goodness.
Levitas
the moon
I think the best chrater might be lucas, actually.
Neon Ness
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Levitas knows about all of the best chraters. His avatar has most of 'em, after all.
ExCeL 52
Smash Lord
Umm Lucas is easier to pick up and own with...
After playing for a while with ness learning combos and such ness > lucas.
After playing for a while with ness learning combos and such ness > lucas.
Levitas
the moon
oooo, about to hit 4 digits, are we?
Neon Ness
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ExCeL 52
Smash Lord
Rofl Grats man ...*Looks left*
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POST.
Bow before your new scrubby Smash Lord.
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OMGEESH YES!!!! Bow before your .. awww journey man .... only 828 more to go!
PRINCESS PEACH777
Smash Lord
Lucas i'm more into blonde boys ......lol
and i guess he is easier then ness.
and i guess he is easier then ness.
Supersmasher10310
Smash Cadet
But I still put the whoop on you with Lucas all the time. You can't defeat me with him. Especially when you use Ness.
trev94
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Shiros
Smash Rookie
Definitely have to go with Lucas on this one. He seemingly outplays Ness in almost every way, 'cept for the fact that bat > stick.
Ness has better aerials, throws, and strings.
trev94
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and his pk fire i get the mean comboes with thats move
Tipe: For ness players when you are doing your pk fire. Hit them with the attck then when there trapied and buring run in a do u down grab it does like 25%. Do it twice .......ITS ALLLLLLLLLL GOOOOOOOOOOOD
Neon Ness
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...
I'm tempted, oh so tempted to point out the flaws in this statement, but... Be Nice to Newcomers, as I always say, and I know I'll stray into a rant.
But I will ask, how much time have you put into each of them? If the answer is anything less than a month, then I'd say dig deeper with Ness and Lucas before sayin' stuff like that. There's a lot to be learned using Ness, but you gotta put forth the effort to find it.
Edit @ Trev: Good players will DI out of the Fire before you can grab most of the time. Even if they don't DI, no one will fall for that trap twice... At least, I wouldn't think.
Levitas
the moon
Last time someone called me out on Ness > Lucas, I three stocked him as lucas against ness, three stocked him as ness vs lucas, then before he got three stocked as metaknight against my lucas, he threw the controller down and walked away angrily.
I never saw him again.
Of course, this should't work against anyone good. Or even decent.
I never saw him again.
Of course, this should't work against anyone good. Or even decent.
Neon Ness
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That is seriously awesome.
I think that from now on anyone who makes baseless claims about Ness vs. Lucas should have to drive to Michigan and personally play you.
mariofanpm12
Smash Ace
Lucas has so many little advantages over Ness that make him better.
Supersmasher10310
Smash Cadet
The one thing that let's me down about Lucas is his grapple. The little snake it so annoying. If you miss your target it takes to long to recover and I end up getting hit.
yeah...i cant bair to nair in one short hop very well so shield pressure can be kinda tough for me. also, people dont just hold their shield if I miss a pkt and just circle it around them.(while they are on the ground)...they put the shield down when I loop my pkt away
I used to laugh when they would lose like half their shield just holding it up even when I have no intention to hit them with the head anyway.Mikey64Icarus
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I like ness better as he has games in our countries and not just japan and lucas is a coward