Lucario's abysmal grabrange

[Timbers]

Easily my biggest flaw with him is misjudging how far he can grab...which is about nothing. It's such a terrible downfall to his character.

Am I the only one who feels like *****ing about it? His grabs are so great that it makes me sad you can barely use them effectively.

 

[Saltix]

Amen to that :[

 

[Lawn]

If I could change one thing about Luc, that would be it.

His dash grab is pretty horrible, too.

 

[Rebonack]

He inherited Mewtwo's awful grab range.

It makes me sad.

Would be nice if his normal grab has the same range as the FP grab >_>

 

[Azen Zagenite]

=^_^=

I don't think its that bad, just look at Marth's!

 

[Nurotasama]

I don't think its that bad, just look at Marth's!

Marth has a nutty grab considering it makes a pretty good tech chase and can infinite 2 characters.

 

[Timbers]

Even Marth's standing grab has more range than Lucario's ;_;

 

[Fizzle]

I don't think its that bad, just look at Marth's!

His standing grab isn't too bad, but his dash grab is definitely one of the worst.

Yes, as a Melee Marth user, I often find myself repeatedly grabbing thin air with Lucario. At least his standing grab is fairly quick, albeit its range being so godawful.

 

[XavantTheEnigma]

I'm pretty sadface about his grab range, I at least wish that it was as long as Sheiks :o

 

[Azen Zagenite]

=^_^=

I dunno, I guess I'm just used to Lucario's grab game. I like all his grabs except down throw lollz.

Melee Marth was too fun, grab everything and forward smash!

 

[dguy6789]

Nah, his grab range isn't so bad. Just get better at grabbing. Also, M2 didn't have poor grab range in melee, it was pretty reasonable.

 

[Timbers]

I'd imagine you're familiar with Lucario's grab range by now Azen =P

It just seems like a harder obstacle for me to overcome than anything else about his character. Was wondering if anyone was feeling the same as I do about it. Or maybe I just rely too much on grabs, who knows. xD

I suppose it doesn't help that I play DDD and ROB as well, both whom have superb grab ranges.

Nah, his grab range isn't so bad. Just get better at grabbing. Also, M2 didn't have poor grab range in melee, it was pretty reasonable.

It actually is one of the worst, lol. I think Ness and two others might be the only characters to have a worse range than his grab.

EDIT: Yeah, ICs, Ness, GaW

 

[Nurotasama]

I like all his grabs except down throw lollz.

See, thats my favourite throw right there: dthrow to aerials. Sometimes I mix it up with uthrow also. Generally the only times I use fthrow and bthrow, though, are if they will get someone off the stage; not a big fan of them.

Dunno why you don't like dthrow.

 

[Timbers]

Bthrow and Fthrow set up for edgeguards, I can see why he'd choose those over dthrow..a throw that can be DI'd and escaped from further pursuit so easily.

 

[Mewtario]

His grabs are so great that it makes me sad you can barely use them effectively.

I mained Mewtwo in Melee, so I know great grabs

And Lucario, my friend, does NOT have great grabs

Mewtwo could KO the average character with an uthrow or bthrow with their damage as low as 100%!

 

[Azen Zagenite]

=^_^=

I used to use dthrow a lot until I found out uthrow has a lot less knockback and easier to combo in every way. And his side throws are pretty good too, especially if you can get your opponent to DI incorrectly it can kill.

 

[Fizzle]

Yeah, fthrow and bthrow are my most used throws. My main strategy with Lucario is to just get them off the edge and start up the aura sphere mindgames. Bair to turn-around aura sphere is too good.

Fthrow is so frickin' fast. I swear, it's gotta be the fastest throw in the game.

 

[betterthanbonds9]

If you use z to throw while running, that's gonna be a problem, using L/R+A to dashgrab has a longer range iirc, at least i hope it does because that's how i do it. Uthrow is my least used throw just because i played DDD at the start of brawl during SSE and for a little bit after and got WAY to used to grab then dthrow. Bthrow is by far my favorite though because it has a decent trajectory.

Edit: 100th post!

 

[Kitamerby]

Too many times have I shieldgrabbed and whiffed due to them being more than 4 inches away. ;-;

 

[betterthanbonds9]

Too many times have I shieldgrabbed and whiffed due to them being more than 4 inches away. ;-;

QFT

at least everything else has the uber priority

 

[The Halloween Captain]

I can't really complain about Lucario's grab range. Maybe I'm just used to it from maining Pika in melee. However, it just doesn't seem like a perticularly significant factor to me.

 

[mr_kennedy44]

Agreed. Lucario's piss poor grab range is such a shame given his good throws. I don't grab much though with Luc, maybe the terrible grab range contributes to it.

 

[Kitamerby]

Agreed. Lucario's piss poor grab rage is such a shame given his good throws. I don't grab much though with Luc, maybe the terrible grab range contributes to it.

Doesn't stop GnW, though! We must learn to adapt!

 

[h4rdcor3]

I have found that using the FP grab early in games will make people spot dodge or shield later on when they think you are going to grab. At that point i will use a regular grab and go into an up throw combo or off ledge guard.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

I dunno, I'm not really into the Upthrow... I never seem to get anything out of it...

Lucario's grab range is bad, but it's soooo easy to punish laggy attacks *Cough* Wolf *Cough*.

 

[Mewtario]

I don't use throws much in matches

The Z button is as far out of the way as the L and R buttons, which is why I don't use sheilds either!

If you don't like the throws so much, why use them? They're weak anyway!

 

[Kitamerby]

I don't use throws much in matches

The Z button is as far out of the way as the L and R buttons, which is why I don't use sheilds either!

If you don't like the throws so much, why use them? They're weak anyway!

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What the hell do you use as a controller? A pickle with nubs?

 

[Mewtario]

Yes

jk

GC controller

It's just that I keep my hands on the controller's surface so to have better access to the buttons, while resting the controller down, most often on my lap. I pinch the control stick between my left thumb and index finger to prevent slipping, and use the X and Y buttons to jump.

 

[Kitamerby]

Yes

jk

GC controller

It's just that I keep my hands on the controller's surface so to have better access to the buttons, while resting the controller down, most often on my lap. I pinch the control stick between my left thumb and index finger to prevent slipping, and use the X and Y buttons to jump.

...You have a very weird finger placement and it will no doubt harm you in the future if you never shield. =\

 

[Speedsk8er]

Doesn't stop GnW, though! We must learn to adapt!

Doesn't stop IC either! ^_^

 

[Kitamerby]

Doesn't stop IC either! ^_^

Screw IC. That's different. ._.

 

[dj_pwn1423]

I used Uthrow before it was cool :O

 

[Kitamerby]

I used Uthrow before it was cool :O

It still isn't. It does equal knockback at higher %. It's only a good option at near 0%, due to the fact that it does less damage at full Aura than Dthrow does at 0%.

 

[Rapid_Assassin]

I think anyone's grab range aside from Olimar is pretty bad...

 

[swypa101]

Fthrow is so frickin' fast. I swear, it's gotta be the fastest throw in the game.

i know its looks like u never grabbed. its like a fast FP

 

[Tomkraven]

i dont have too much to complain about lucarios grab cuz i like to shieldgrab a lot... about trying to dashgrab... ya the range sucks but i dont really care.

about the throws: i like the side throws better than any other... i used to dthrow but every time i do it someone was air dodging my fair/nair so ...ya it sucks

 

[Zero_Gamer]

Mewtario is L!

 

[dj_pwn1423]

It still isn't. It does equal knockback at higher %. It's only a good option at near 0%, due to the fact that it does less damage at full Aura than Dthrow does at 0%.

Yet it sets you up for way more combos than Dthrow does :/ its also harder to DI.

You can do a lot of stuff to fast fallers.

 

[Mewtario]

...You have a very weird finger placement and it will no doubt harm you in the future if you never shield. =\

Don't get me wrong, I DO reach around the right shoulder to throw, but I haven't worked throws into my strategy since Mewtwo.

The only attack I work to dodge is Tabuu's off waves, though.

 

[Azen Zagenite]

=^_^=

Sounds like you need one of those arcade sticks!