Lovers n' Friends Mafia | Ovah

[JeXs]

I'm always in thread for games I'm in.

 

[Maven89]

Does the website refresh the time table on your user profile? Because I was clicking/refreshing that and using the last time it said it saw you active to come up with the 20-30 minute time table.

 

[JeXs]

I don't know about that.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

i think when you have smash on mobile it always shows you visiting the tabs you have open, regardless of if youre actually seeing em.

 

[Chaco]

Kantrip, that meta schpeel was grimy as can be. First, off, that's HOW you use meta. You use it as a reference for specific behaviors and how a person acts as a certain alignment. What good is meta otherwise? Secondly, I use meta in conjunction WITH the scum tells I see off of you. What's hilariously more accurate here to you being scum is that my initial attack of you led to know response but, Chaco is fine. I push you more, and people join on, and you pull this horridly grimy looking defense out abolishing use of meta. Furthermore, when I actually use it as it should be! It's not like I'm saying, "hey guise kantrip is scum ONLY because he isn't acting like town Kantrip." NO. I'm adding that to my reasoning along with your grimy pushes, buddying posts, and now to top it off this horrid defense and bash against meta when I've seen you talk of meta countless times it seems.

Lordy. Can we kill Kantrip now? Kantrip flips scum, I'd say Orbo is town due to his blatant act of trying to make attachments to him.

Kantrip used flail.
It was ineffective.

@ #HBC | Gorf What do you think of that flippant reaction to meta use?
@#HBC | Rake. Thoughts on Kantrip now as well?

 

[Kantrip]

God you're obnoxious

 

[Kantrip]

You realize one scum flip = game right? You did read the setup?

 

[Kantrip]

Also I said you have reasons that stand on their own and asked you for clarification on them. You gonna give me that or be a tard?

 

[Chaco]

Also I said you have reasons that stand on their own and asked you for clarification on them. You gonna give me that or be a tard?

How can you further clarify on what's pretty painstakingly clear: Buddying, Grimy pushes, and a horrid defense. Do you want me to go through and write a paragraph on their implications? I can, but it's a waste of time. Concision is just fine with those tells, as they do not really need to be elaborated on to be seen, or for others to believe them. The case against you speaks pretty much for itself.

Truthfully, I have not read the set up really. When I replaced in I wasn't given a role PM, it was just saying essentially you're replacing BarDull and he was town, have at it. I know my alignment, and I know to scum hunt, does it matter know the exact set up? No. Most set ups ran here are closed. Furthermore, speculation on how you've attempted to rub one off for Orbo, and him being away from your alignment really doesn't matter, does it? It shows that I believe your buddying of him is to gain his favor, and provide false connection. As easily done in a set up like this. It's just a stupid ground for you to attack on, making the flail look worse. If you're trying at things that don't even matter, what of it? You can personally attack me all you want, but with these last three posts even you've shown that you're not acting in accordance to how a town defense could even be perceived. It's more of an OMGUS, and mud sling. It'd be different if they held merit, but you want to bash the accusations on you by mudslinging. They're explained well enough. I needn't spoon feed you my thoughts so you can adequately defend to them, in fact, that's part of it. To see what you do say in your defense without giving up my entire train of thought.

@ JeXs
@ Orboknown

Thoughts as well on what has transpired?

 

[JeXs]

I want to say I like Rake, but after reading him completely wrong in both DC and ryker, I've learn to be more wary of him. As for kantrip, currently reading through again(how dreadful).

 

[JeXs]

At page 5, but I feel like kantrip was attacking my playstyle and twisting my actions more than anything.

your reads, bardull vs gorf, any other player, asking questions to hunt scum

theres a plethora of things to talk about, and the vast majority of them you only do when someone else asks you to

From here, he should know after playing so many games with me, that that is not how I play. He's basically taking a negative aspect of my playstyle and making use of it to say that I'm "not doing anything".

yeah all two of them

my point is that you can try to develop a couple more possibly maybe?

Says that I only had 2 reads despite me voting bardull. Which means that he's saying I'm voting for a player I don't think is scum. I don't really understand where he's coming from here. Anyway, this would mean I had 3 reads and 3 nulls at the time, which I say, is perfectly fine for that time.

My initial scumread on him also comes for that page where he voted me with a terrible reason, which as I stated previously, really looked like opportunistic scum trying to get in an easy mislynch by piggybacking maven's (bad) push on me.

 

[JeXs]

And you're being a ******.

Wow. Rude. What did I do?

Oh wait you're scum so Nvm.

@ Maven89
This was what I meant by being an asshole. Me calling him a ******.

 

[JeXs]

Wow ****. Maven and I basically spammed the **** outta the thread.

 

[JeXs]

Maven vs jexs is probably important to read but I just couldn't bring myself to do it right now.

Gorf concerning with his belief that scumjexs would put scumbardull at l-1. Since both scum lose if one is lynched you'd think they'd be careful when putting their partner in quicklynch range (they wouldn't do that).

So have you read me vs maven now? Thoughts?

 

[JeXs]

@ Kantrip
Your scum read on Gorf was entirely based on me being scum right? Who will you look at otherwise? Without silly connections to me of course.

 

[JeXs]

you cant just let meta from past games dictate reads so firmly

so since gorf called you scum for no reason in another game as town he must be town here too? and youre calling my reasoning bad?

Using meta to draw parallels is one thing and it has its place.

Player A exhibits behaviour in past game. Player B notices the same behaviour from Player A in future game. Player B makes connections between games where Player A exhibited the same behaviour to draw conclusion that Player A is the same alignment as in past game.

This would be totally fine.

 

[JeXs]

Stop relying on meta to dictate your reads

This would be totally fine.

 

[MODBOT]

(2) potassium: chaco, #hbc | rake.
(1) #hbc | gorf: potassium
(0) #hbc | rake.:
(0) chaco:
(0) orboknown:
(0) maven89:
(0) jexs:

Not voting: #HBC | Gorf, Orboknown, Maven89, Jexs

 

[Maven89]

Does no one think a person forgetting scum reads is scummy? That just seems like a person forgetting their cover, whether its on the wiki or not.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

unvote

vote kantrip

good show everyone

 

[Maven89]

God you're obnoxious

Also I said you have reasons that stand on their own and asked you for clarification on them. You gonna give me that or be a tard?

These posts both seem like they should have come from earlier in the thread

 

[Maven89]

Potassium at L-1, next vote would lynch.

My gut says Bardull/Jex and that Chaco is just playing better then Bardull was. Logic and the rules of the game tell me Potassium is scum. Potassium being scum makes sense, I thought that if there was a new player other then me it'd have been Potassium due to him flying his votes around (bardull, jex, gorf), but I just read this as enthusiastic. Seeing that Potassium is not new (and has been in lots of other games)...


I'm not comfortable lynching yet

 

[JeXs]

Potassium at L-1, next vote would lynch.

My gut says Bardull/Jex and that Chaco is just playing better then Bardull was. Logic and the rules of the game tell me Potassium is scum. Potassium being scum makes sense, I thought that if there was a new player other then me it'd have been Potassium due to him flying his votes around (bardull, jex, gorf), but I just read this as enthusiastic. Seeing that Potassium is not new (and has been in lots of other games)...


I'm not comfortable lynching yet

I'm the newest after you lol.

 

[Maven89]

Vote: Orbo

Tells us your thoughts or you get the gut next

 

[Maven89]

Just noticed this, in response to Bardull asking people to kill Gorf

Will look into this on town flip

Is this a slip, or did he just mess up and say "on" instead of "if"?

 

[JeXs]

"if town flip" sounds awkward. "on town flip" would sound more correct imo. Maven, you need to chill out lol. I was also excited in my first game but not to this extent. Being too excited will do more harm than good.

 

[Maven89]

Will do, I just get excited when I feel we're close to a lynch. Either way, the Orbo post was just in case, I saw something slightly similar with your posts in the Stat mafia game and was curious if this counted as the same or not.

 

[Orboknown]

Vote: Orbo

Tells us your thoughts or you get the gut next

You're town, rake is likely town but I'm wary after ryker maf and dc. Chaco is posting better than bardull was but dunno what to make of him yet
Kantrip being weird as hell and me no likey
Gorf null, jexy looking better now that hes calmed down

Just noticed this, in response to Bardull asking people to kill Gorf



Is this a slip, or did he just mess up and say "on" instead of "if"?

I'm not going to look into it on a scum flip
Just the way I say that ohrase

 

[Kantrip]

Everybody has been fine with lynching me, this is when we all back off because I obviously can't be scum right?

Smh

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

if its any consolation i think people are ridiculous when they use the "everybody wants em he cant be scum" argument.

 

[Kantrip]

I applied it to bardull because he was in quicklynch range and placed there by potential partners with people who could very well go for the hammer.

But at this point it's ridiculous and all a scummer has to do is vote his partner along with everyone else then say "welp guess it's not him, next target!"

 

[Maven89]

I applied it to bardull because he was in quicklynch range and placed there by potential partners with people who could very well go for the hammer.

But at this point it's ridiculous and all a scummer has to do is vote his partner along with everyone else then say "welp guess it's not him, next target!"

Where is this coming from? No one has said that

 

[Chaco]

Not entirely, Kantrip. Orbo is non-committal of you, and Maven is dancing around your lynch. both of which show interest in you as scum, but neither commit at this point. So, that argument too is insufficient of defending yourself. What riddles me is your defense, it bears no contrition to how you've played, rather pointing out the flaws in others play. It's just grimy. It's strawmanning your entire defense.

 

[Chaco]

Kantrip is at L-1 though, so, be mindful of that. We still have two days and slightly more to dredge out information before allowing a lynch.

 

[Kantrip]

I've yet to see anything to defend myself from. I asked you to show examples of the points you made that didn't rely on meta and you've yet to do that

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

yu can like i dunno refute chacos points or somethin

 

[MODBOT]

(3) potassium: chaco, #hbc | rake., #hbc | gorf
(1) orboknown: maven89
(1) #hbc | gorf: potassium
(0) #hbc | rake.:
(0) chaco:
(0) maven89:
(0) jexs:

Not voting: Orboknown, Jexs

 

[Maven89]

unvote

 

[Orboknown]

Was that really just a vote for my reads to get put out there? What about it made you feel better enough to unvote?

 

[Kantrip]

yu can like i dunno refute chacos points or somethin

Read my post again.

I'm waiting on him to clarify the points