Lovers n' Friends Mafia | Ovah

[Maven89]

Was that really just a vote for my reads to get put out there? What about it made you feel better enough to unvote?

it was just for you to post, the angry face was a joke. i unvoted because you posted.

i'm holding my thoughts until there's more potassium defense or the days over

 

[Orboknown]

it was just for you to post, the angry face was a joke. i unvoted because you posted.

i'm holding my thoughts until there's more potassium defense or the days over

Why would someone defending kantrip make you post?

 

[Maven89]

someone else wouldn't. but potassium defending potassium would

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Kantrip, that meta schpeel was grimy as can be. First, off, that's HOW you use meta. You use it as a reference for specific behaviors and how a person acts as a certain alignment. What good is meta otherwise? Secondly, I use meta in conjunction WITH the scum tells I see off of you. What's hilariously more accurate here to you being scum is that my initial attack of you led to know response but, Chaco is fine. I push you more, and people join on, and you pull this horridly grimy looking defense out abolishing use of meta. Furthermore, when I actually use it as it should be! It's not like I'm saying, "hey guise kantrip is scum ONLY because he isn't acting like town Kantrip." NO. I'm adding that to my reasoning along with your grimy pushes, buddying posts, and now to top it off this horrid defense and bash against meta when I've seen you talk of meta countless times it seems.

Lordy. Can we kill Kantrip now? Kantrip flips scum, I'd say Orbo is town due to his blatant act of trying to make attachments to him.

Kantrip used flail.
It was ineffective.

@#HBC | Gorf What do you think of that flippant reaction to meta use?
@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake Thoughts on Kantrip now as well?

Woukld probably lynch him but i need to re read, i've been working off gut since the first page. The kantrip hate is well deserved and i still maintain you, me and maven are town and jexs is likely just an idiot too cause i read his interaction with maven as tvt, that only leaves orbo/kantrip/gorf

Would consider orbo but he's probably just being town l;azy and he keeps going all these different ways and just being around and i like that but i can't say i wouldn't still consider him.

Gorf and knatrip make sense to me atm

 

[Kantrip]

Would lynch gorf

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I want to say I like Rake, but after reading him completely wrong in both DC and ryker, I've learn to be more wary of him. As for kantrip, currently reading through again(how dreadful).

My manipulation as scum is always really obvious tbh, you'll see i'll be trying to swing things in my favour and have a vested interest in directing the lynch. and im not telling you this to mind game you as scum cause there's no point, it's good you're more wary and you should always ask me t oexpand if you think im just throwing **** arounf cause i hate expanding on things as scum lemme tell you, that big post i made in DC was torture

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Wow ****. Maven and I basically spammed the **** outta the thread.

Hence you toe being tvt. Trust me, only townies waste time on pointless **** cause scum always has an agenda

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Does no one think a person forgetting scum reads is scummy? That just seems like a person forgetting their cover, whether its on the wiki or not.

not really i forget stuff al;l the time as town, not usually my reads but it's happened especially with dynamic read styles where a person can look all sorts of things at all different times

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

gorf orbo might be a thing or mayve even kantrip gorf cause orbo's being really really hesitant without pursuing kantrip enough, i know he's limited availibility but orbo's volition to chase people down this game def causes me to pause

 

[Orboknown]

Would lynch gorf

Why

gorf orbo might be a thing or mayve even kantrip gorf cause orbo's being really really hesitant without pursuing kantrip enough, i know he's limited availibility but orbo's volition to chase people down this game def causes me to pause

Limited availability+other people chasing down peopke I wanna look at=me probing less things while here. Also kantrips at l1 so dkbt realky wanna hammer right yet

 

[Kantrip]

Because rake suggested me and Gorf scumteam and I wanted to prove a point to him by saying I would gladly lynch gorf, his proposed partner of mine.

 

[Maven89]

Ok, I was hoping for more from Potassium, but I don't think that's going to happen.

Potassium's defense does not sit well. I feel he' s being overly protective, misrepresenting Chaco's posts, and doing exactly what he mocked Jex for doing by Chaco ********.

Potassium did not push me towards Jex, but he did post against Jex at the same time. I thin Jex's reaction was really poor and it's not surprising that people took it scummy. The only thing Potassium did was tell me I was playing well for a newbie, even though in other posts he mentioned I had misguided reasons. I don't know if he has low expectations of a new player or was contradictory.

What I want to know is where Potassium's Jex read went. He seemed convinced of it, was using it to base his vote on Gorf, but when Chaco returned this just sort of fizzled away, and now it's only Gorf. What happened here? Potato specifically said this

im not sure exactly what youre asking, but i think jexs is individually scummy and has a connection to gorf, but if im wrong on jexs id reconsider gorf too cuz hes not as individualy scummy

But that never occured. instead he just backed further into Gorf.

Then really this

Your reliance on meta disgusts me and when you're wrong I hope you stop it.

And all your later expounding on it about how the lack of behavior doesn't mean anything. I don't know how your arguments make any sense. You seem to be purposefully misrepresenting Chaco's argument, you say that he's only using meta, but then at the same time tell him to give evidence of the other points. If he has other points it's not him just using meta. I mean even if the points are wrong he wouldn't just be using meta.

Potassium's buddying with Orbo is pretty clear, Chaco shouldn't have to pull those up Potato can find those himself. There's quite a bit.



TL:DR Potato put thought into his arguments to get people lynched but can't seem to put together a decent argument to stop himself from being lynched. His Jex scum read just vanished the second public opinion turned against Jex, but Gorf is somehow still there even though Potassium's suspicion of Gorf came from his connection with Jex.

I'm just gonna be patient for a while but it's looking like a Potassium lynch for me

 

[Maven89]

Oh potassium responded while i was typing my post up

 

[Maven89]

Because rake suggested me and Gorf scumteam and I wanted to prove a point to him by saying I would gladly lynch gorf, his proposed partner of mine.

what

 

[Maven89]

that just seems desperate and i cant see how people could think that would work

 

[Chaco]

Read my post again.

I'm waiting on him to clarify the points

As I've said, and shall reiterate: How can I make them anymore clear? Avoiding the points and trying to discredit them by asking for further clarification is pointless. You haven't even begun to refute any of them, and I've made myself pretty clear as to what they are and the why. Further clarification only helps you form a defense to the T of what i'm looking for, and I'm not going to aide in that. I want a defense that's not made to appease my points of interest in specificity. I want you to defend your actions that I, no we, find scummy. Your continued delay, and asking for further clarification is useless. There's no discrediting the points, they stand as you see. Just explain the why's behind them, you needn't a study guide on how to defend against them. That's basically the whole point of your defense at this time, so see your answers to the allegations without laying them out and spoon feeding them to you. If we do that, we rob ourselves of your genuine answers; something of which you should have no trouble producing if you are indeed town as you claim.

 

[Kantrip]

A big wall of nothing.

Thanks Santa.

I don't understand your points. Can you at least ****ing reiterate them for me? As of now I'm not responding to "this kantrip looks more manipulative than town kantrip."

My defense of that? No. No I don't.

 

[Kantrip]

I'm gonna eat some food and read again to see if I'm missing something. As it stands now I remember jack **** resembling good points on me from chaco

 

[Maven89]

i mean, you could like read his post or something

"Buddying, Grimy pushes, and a horrid defense"

 

[Kantrip]

I'm not buddying anyone.
My pushes aren't grimy.
There's nothing worth defending myself from.

 

[Kantrip]

If that's the quality of his points, there's the quality of my defense.

If he doesn't need proof or examples don't expect them from me.

 

[Chaco]

Because rake suggested me and Gorf scumteam and I wanted to prove a point to him by saying I would gladly lynch gorf, his proposed partner of mine.

Grimy, grimy, grimy.

 

[Maven89]

could you expand on those please

 

[Maven89]

got ninja'd twice

 

[Kantrip]

And why is that grimy?

 

[Maven89]

Vote: Potato

get mashed

 

[Chaco]

If that's the quality of his points, there's the quality of my defense.

If he doesn't need proof or examples don't expect them from me.

The proof is in your play, and the lackadaisical approach you take to your defense is quite noted. It's nothing I'd expect of you as town either, showing indifference won't cause me to cease a push on you, nor will it convince others of your supposed towniness.

 

[Kantrip]

Honestly Chaco give me something to respond to. I'm trying here man.

 

[Chaco]

@Bot: Request Votecount

 

[Maven89]

if there's a d2 please suspect chaco

 

[Chaco]

if there's a d2 please suspect chaco

Again, why? You've literally FOS'd everyone in this game with little or no reasoning at all.

 

[Kantrip]

Hammer I assume?

Was town, Chaco is a colossal ****** if town and his meta use is garbage. Could be scum though seeing as how his attack of me was NEVER backed up.

Make orbo commit to things in real time, I know it's hard with his activity stuff but it's important.

JeXs might be a whiny baby instead of scum but he needs to learn to take pressure because I still think his behaviour was scummy as ****.

Maven newbtown

Gorf scummy

Rake's okay

 

[Maven89]

Actually I only FOS Potassium, you and Jex,

 

[Kantrip]

Yeah initial bardull gut scum read may have been correct. Chaco is just too scummy to be dumbtown

 

[MODBOT]

A lynch for potassium has been reached!

(4) potassium: chaco, #hbc | rake., #hbc | gorf, maven89
(1) #hbc | gorf: potassium
(0) #hbc | rake.:
(0) chaco:
(0) orboknown:
(0) maven89:
(0) jexs:

Not voting: Orboknown, Jexs

 

[Maven89]

and the fact that you asked me that makes me incredibly nervous about what i just did

 

[Kantrip]

Chaco + Gorf?

Maybe

 

[Chaco]

Honestly Chaco give me something to respond to. I'm trying here man.

I have, that's the whole thing here. It's been seen that others even agree with that, I want you to explain your actions and the thought behind them without me having to spoonfeed you direction. This is better for everyone as it shows your intent without forcing to to look a certain direction and put up a defense to only what I seek. I want the general overlook, I want to see why you did what you did in accordance to JeXs, why you constantly call upon Orbo, and why your scumreads flow every which a way in accordance to what's convenient at that time. In general, the last few pages have looked like a flail to me, and I see nothing townie behind your play. That's why I want an an orchestrated defense. It helps everyone better understand your position and thought process behind the actions. I've given you the guidelines, what to respond to, you just refuse to.

 

[Maven89]

if you're town I'd definitely think so.

 

[JeXs]

Why gorf though.