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Lost Mafia - Who won? - The viewing audience of course

#HBC | Gorf

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@J I can go into details, but in a general sense, I was able to see where a townJ was coming from, and basically there was nothing that I can say struck me as scummy.

@Ausupher, how do you make out Dooms' case, notes, thing against you? Is there any particular reason why you didn't, or possibly won't, address it?
 

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With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!

Vote Count:
RR: (1) Mentosman
Dooms: (1) Soupamario
Glyph: (2) Kataefi, Rajam
Mentosman: (1) Red Ryu
Circus/J: (4) Evil Eye, Chaco, KevinM, Glyph
Gorf: (1) Aushper
Auspher: (2) Circus, Joey

Not voting: (5) frozenflame751, Gheb, Ryker, Gorf, Asdioh


Deadline December 26th, 11:59 PM.

Hida_jiremi and I will be V/LA ourselves most of tomorrow to visit family. Swiss might be available to flag questions and vote counts.

I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas / Happy Holiday!

 

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Will get to read up fully tomorrow so I'm up to date before deadline hits.

J, are you really going to backpedal us into the "Gheb goes after easy targets"-nonsense? How much more effort must I put into my points and cases on RR to show you that that's not true at all? It kinda bugs me that people seem to universally agree that me going after RR is equal to me going after easy targets. The mere fact that I got so little agreement over my opinions on him shows that he wasn't such an easy target after all. I could've understood your accusation had I made Joey my primary target, Auspher, Soup or uselessGlyph. Even Rajam had probably been an easier target [Kata too with how little he seems to care about this game] so I really don't see how you can earnestly still think I'm going after easy target. I mean, I also voiced suspicions against EE when I felt it was due - is EE an easy target now as well?

Honestly, I think you've been selectively reading. Not that I have huge issues with it because I tend to do so myself when catching up but I really don't think you'd agree with what you said about me if you read back over that stuff carefully. It's true that I didn't contribute a lot recently but that's only because nothing much has changed about my opinions on whom we should lynch. The most recent relevant, really new input were your own posts and I couldn't have possibly responded to them before you even made them.

Vote Soupamario

I'm not willing to lynch J before I dug into the non-claim post that caused such attention and build an opinion on it. Soup can definitely die at this point and there's some connection with Soup I'm actually interested in, thinking back about the earlier stages of the game.

:059:
 

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Thought I'd give a roundup of thoughts what with it being the christmas break and all so it's gonna get trickier to post.

Red ruy/Glyph/Mentos/[Insert inactive]

^I would support these. Plz join me on one.

Agreeing with J on specific points about rajam. I don't understand why he needed to show concern over ryker here as a town read and go as far as to advise him... seemed unnecessary to me =/ I think rajam is perceptive though, there are others I'd lynch before him. He did give me a response to this which looked thorough. I'll do a reread of his play but I think there are better options than him he should consider changing.

J you haven't commented on Acrostic/Auspher. Why are they null to you?
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Ryu is off. I think he's exagerating points against Mentos and claims his attacks need "bite", makes me think he's willing to misconstrue and exaggerate to get someone he wants lynched which doesn't come across as genuine. Then there's the misplaced suspicion on me which he hasn't explained yet and I'd like some insight really... if my johns "stuck" I would be scum, yet he immediately decided to place me as scum straight after he said this [#578/#583]. The conditional statement didn't fit. Came across like that was just a flavour of the hour read and makes me think he's doing it to blend in to the majority and deciding things on a whim without looking beneath the surface. Comes across as being a bit of a sly fox this one.
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Glyph --> thought he looked irrational in the exchange with mentos e.g. #468 I didn't see mentos as solely defending himself and it looked like he just popped in as a break in to the game to give content. I've considered bingo shenanigans here, because he seemed to nosedive into the action in that game as well all cocky galore. I also found the jump to circus opportunistic. If he wasn't playing the game at this point, why did he bother making the switch to the majority wagon? =?... clearly he was not after a no lynch. He later claims he wouldn't want to lynch inactives anyway over players who are more meaningful to him (mentos), and claims things can happen <24 hours, so when he started to go srsmode before the deadline I don't know why he didn't consider pushing mentos more at this point who was meaningful to him.
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Mentos is a tough one. I may have over-analysed. Still, I find him airy/not very progressive/his attention to certain players odd enough to lynch him. I've had impressions throughout the Day he's been analysing people with common traits -- no content, bad contributions, fluff posting, wasteful etc which explains why parts of his scumlist have stuck throughout the Day... (which iirc is Ruy/Auspher/Acrostic(?)/Soup/and only now glyph). Points like these have a low threshold in activating awareness of a stimulus/cause.....so Glyph pops in and out throughout - generally giving no content/being wasteful and "twists" mentos' actions in the process; I understand mentos was raging to not notice glyph doing things he was supposedly looking for in scum, but in the post glyph cited... he regains composure / recognises glyph twisted his actions / asks him to contribute / glyph isn't that responsive / and mentos seems to go oddly lightly on him here... which is a completely different tune in how he responded to, say, someone like ryker. (Read the paragraph above the word "incidentally" in the way mentos demands that information). Why was mentos' reply not harsher to engage with Glyph more at this specific point considering he was more critical of others for not posting much content and that was earlier in the game? :awesome:

It essentially makes me question parts of mentos' scum list and treatment of specific players - why are some being penalised over others? Makes me think mentos potentially orients himself toward specific players in this game to feign contribution, and could be affiliated to them. After all, why on earth is he still on soup? :woman:... apparently because of vibes based on, well, nothing :awesome:
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right now I can see mentos or ruy as a likelier lynch over glyph unless people want to join me on this?

unvote
vote: mentos


EE/Ryker/Glyph you're all interested in mentos? That makes 4. 5 with rajam. 6 with Red Ruy. 3 more. I'm not sure if this is doable. I'm worried about a no lynch because all the votes look pretty split. I will vote soup/J/Kevin/acrostic if necessary. I will also vote Rajam. But I'd much rather leave them to Mr. Imaginary Vig and get a meaningful wagon now that we have this extension.

Also, Christmas and next week is going to be tricky. Declaring V/LA over this period. I'll be around to ensure we don't get a no lynch. I do care about this game gheb.
 

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Actually... with the whole <24 hours thing and glyph... christmas time is a legit reason. I can see why you didn't push mentos for here. Would you join the mentos wagon now?
 

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Alright Gheb. I'm going to go back after Christmas and look at your posts again simply because I am willing to give you a bit of the benefit of the doubt since I was reading this game through in one sitting at 3 in the morning. However, while I do this I would like an explaination to this.

Gheb said:
Soup can definitely die at this point and there's some connection with Soup I'm actually interested in, thinking back about the earlier stages of the game.
What is this connection from the earlier stages of the game?

Kataefi said:
J you haven't commented on Acrostic/Auspher. Why are they null to you?
I don't have Acro as null. o_O I didn't comment on Acro*Asdioh* because I feel that's been talked about enough already and his claim was proven with him most likely being town with his claim.

Auspher on the other hand is null, he continues to go back and forth between scum and town because I am finding it hard to differentiate what exactly he is doing. Some posts are more towny with his constant back and forth and AtE while others like his constant switching of his votes looks more scummy. He's a null for now so I'm not quite sure I'd like his lynch over others at the current time.
 

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The connection I believe to correctly remember is Soup - Glyph. IIRC Glyph had Soup as scum early but idk how serious he was about that.

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I think its actually pretty clear how serious I was about that considering the posts I made said I hadn't read anything at all
 

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unvote vote: Mentos

I'll be here enough to change my vote back if it comes to that
 

#HBC | Gorf

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@J whats more going after an easy target (yes take their position in this game into account, not their rep). Ghebs consistent rrscum read, or Kats idea of mentoscum/glyphscum, with (what seems obviously) more of a lean on mentos?
 

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The connection I believe to correctly remember is Soup - Glyph. IIRC Glyph had Soup as scum early but idk how serious he was about that.

:059:


it took you 17 pages to state this?... why is this connection meaningful to you? why didn't you touch on this throughout the Day?
 

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Lol oh man this wagon. I got **** to do so I can't respond much right now. Oh wait, I couldn't respond much because there's NO ACTUAL CASE ON ME. "Oh he's being not really pushing things forward personally and his posts are airy," gee, ya think? It's the way I play every game. Anyway, I might try to defend myself against the I don't like your playstyle lynch that's happening, but as I said, Christmas **** to do right now.
 

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With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!

Vote Count:
RR: (1) Mentosman
Dooms: (1) Soupamario
Glyph: (1) Rajam
Mentosman: (5) Red Ryu, Kataefi, Glyph, Evil Eye, Ryker
Circus/J: (2) Chaco, KevinM
Gorf: (1) Aushper
Auspher: (1) Joey
Soupamario: (1) Gheb
Rajam: (1) J

Not voting: (3) frozenflame751, Gorf, Asdioh


Deadline December 26th, 11:59 PM.
 

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Well damn Mentos, I guess everyone on your wagon is just really dumb
 

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Mentos, that's a really terrible fixation on what you believe to be the main push against you. That's not it at all nor is it why I think you have such a wagon against you over a trivial matter as "they don't like your playstyle". I also have to say Kat's post against you is a "case"...sort of.

I don't like the way you are dealing with your wagon formed on you. It is giving me different vibes to the way you acted when the gambit happened.

@Mod: My vote is on Rajam but just to help.

Unvote
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I think the Mentos push is dumb personally for what it's worth.

EE

Top 3 lynch candidates that aren't Mentos, give me somethin to work with.
 

#HBC | J

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@J whats more going after an easy target (yes take their position in this game into account, not their rep). Ghebs consistent rrscum read, or Kats idea of mentoscum/glyphscum, with (what seems obviously) more of a lean on mentos?
Missed this.

Why are you implying that Kat's thing is only a lean and therefore an easy target? Comparing Gheb vs. Kat is not the same really. =/ Mentos wasn't really, from vibe-wise, a lynch candidate and the inactives seemed to be the position people were going. Gheb's consistent scum-read I still need to go into to answer fully.

I don't really get the comparison and am a bit confused. @_@
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Missed this.

Why are you implying that Kat's thing is only a lean and therefore an easy target? Comparing Gheb vs. Kat is not the same really. =/ Mentos wasn't really, from vibe-wise, a lynch candidate and the inactives seemed to be the position people were going. Gheb's consistent scum-read I still need to go into to answer fully.

I don't really get the comparison and am a bit confused. @_@
Kat has just moved his vote to mentos after a fair amount of people have moved to him/voiced possible moving to him. Granted, he had voiced suspicion of mentos before, but that was also after a fair amount of people voiced suspicion. Gheb has had RR as a scumspect throughout most of the game, to a point where there he was like the only one that hadn't moved from him, yet he STILL finds him to be his top scumspect. Idk if it's just me but I find your suspicion of Gheb to be much more fitting for Kat.
 

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Kat was only the second person on Mentos via vote-count/votes and actually campaigned to get the other voters.

I don't like where you are going with this about Kat Gord. You sound contradicting so you need to back up what you are saying. First you say he just moved his vote after a fair amount of people have/voiced suspicion but then say he had voiced suspicion of Mentos earlier. Quote for me who was before Kata and the like.

I'm really confused with you atm Gord. @_@
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Page 13, which is right after the whole fake shot/Glyph v Mentos page (if it's not obvious, both EE and Glyph voice suspicion of mentos there), Ryker cites a coupl'a quotes from mentos as

Ryker said:
Gross, sickening, nasty. AtE everywhere that town has literally NO reason to put out there as they gain nothing from it. Town assumes EE is scum at this point.
and also states that he feels mentos wasn't being genuine when he says

Ryker said:
Why not? Because that's not the thought process from someone better than Auspher. I find myself highly skeptical that you would legitimately sling insults at EE if you were being genuine.
And, although weak, Rajam also comes out to say that

Rajam said:
Agreed on mentos possibly being scum. Although this is weak, I haven't particularly got town vibes from him, despite he has given several content. Deffinitely can see mentos being scum but I have no solid reasons so I'll just leave it up to here.
Mind you, this is a total of four people (maybe even more if I missed em) that have voiced mentoscum suspicion before Kat. Tell me when my point has been made so I don't have to overwork my incredibly sexy self.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Page 14: Mostly acro schenanigans and Circus posting like a silly goose, and people talking about that. Oh, and there's also some noticing that Kat's been being pre' absent and "milking the computer johns".

ONWARD!

Page 15: Ruy open states mentoscum suspicion with the following:

Ruy said:
Vote: mentosman8

His responses look really scummy to me and I dislike his need to want to hide information from town. His scum picks are alos super safe, it doesn't seem like picking Ryu, Auspher, Acro, and Soup was something her reached, more so something he is conforming to look town.

He should give reasons for each scum pick.
Five people openly stating mentoscum suspicion... Oh and Kat's still yet to post.

ONWARD!

Page 16: In his 605, Rajam reiterates (god I hate how Internet Explorer doesn't have spellcheck) his scum read on mentos by givin out accusations and posting this as his scum list:

Rajam said:
Scum
Glyph
mentos
And in red and everything... Woah Gheb voicing Ruyscum with his 607, when nobody seems to even conjour that line of thought... It ain't an easy thing, voicing an unpopular scum read mang, if you catch mah drift. Kat FINALLY comes in with his 612, voicing suspicion of both Glyph AND mentos (without placing a vote anywhere, mind you) and a buncha other weird thingies... For example a broad six man scum pool.

Obtw if the point was lost in the content, the point is that it's off that your Gheb scum read has quite a bit of basis on the fact that he's goinig after an easy target (when he's really not...), when someone like Kataefi is guilty of that on a much higher degree.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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My apologies btw, the Kat not placing a vote in that post of his bit isn't valid, I guess his vote had already been on Glyph (looking at the votecount at the time and seeing Kat's name on Glyph).
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Actually no, I'll probz be going into tunnel vision if I continue. I feel I've made my point pretty and clear for ya J.
 

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... why is this connection meaningful to you? why didn't you touch on this throughout the Day?
Because recently Soup became a REALLY good lynch in my book and I want to make the best out of his flip. Typically, I wouldn't care much about a Soup - Glyph connection unless I have a scumread on one of them but atm I think Soup's inactivity is beyond what's tolerable and in the long run his death will definitely be for the better. If we can shed some light on a connection I'd consider unlikely in the process then the connection becomes somewhat more meaningful by default.

I think its actually pretty clear how serious I was about that considering the posts I made said I hadn't read anything at all
I don't really know much about how you play other than an often seemingly carefree attitude. Can't really tell where you personally draw the line between "serious" and "not serious" and how much effort you're inclined into your "serious" cases.

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Hey Gorf, are you town? Ok cool. I probably won't be caught up before deadline, so who's scum? Why isn't your vote anywhere?
 
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