Except you said V/LA?
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Except you said AFTER your V/LA**?
I mean if you're not feeling the lynches we have on the table I see literally no reason not to get off your arse and do it now since logically auspher is the lynch you want
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Joey I know that in all honestly 24 hours is enough time to swing a lynch, but my concern is that the 24 hours in question is Christmas.
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That doesn't mean I can't push him tomorrow?
I know Glyph lol.
I could post an unfinished case at 2:30 if you would prefer that EE o_O'. It takes me more than an hour to make a case and I have 20-50 minutes depending on when I have to start getting ready for -insert V/LA stuff here-
I know Glyph lol.
I could post an unfinished case at 2:30 if you would prefer that EE o_O'. It takes me more than an hour to make a case and I have 20-50 minutes depending on when I have to start getting ready for -insert V/LA stuff here-
At least read his posts and give us the ubersparknotes.
Slept in a bit and then decided to have a family game day. I'm on vacation in NC so I'll try to get it tonight when I'm not that busy. Sorry for the delay. ^^"
I can give some reads though to satiate for my lack of content.
My biggest scum-read is Rajam right now. EE/Joey/KevinM are my town reads. Gheb/Ryu are leaning scummy right now. I'll expound more later.
I can give some reads though to satiate for my lack of content.
My biggest scum-read is Rajam right now. EE/Joey/KevinM are my town reads. Gheb/Ryu are leaning scummy right now. I'll expound more later.
Some interesting observations there.
Try to get your content up before I go to work.
Try to get your content up before I go to work.
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He's literally had 5 posts since last friday. 1 was V/LA stuff, one was a random vote on gorf, one was correcting vote count, one was asking about the circus wagon (which shows that he hasn't been reading at all), and the last one poorly defending his vote on Gorf (Saying that he's changing his votes too much, when the votes are just showing his scum reads).
Before that, he:
Voted glyph with RVS post.
Stayed in RVS foooorever.
When started getting serious, said that his RVS Glyph vote was an attempt to bandwagon, even though he didn't do anything with the vote at all besides make joke posts about it. Half-***** attempt at scum hunting.
After saying that it was an attempt to start a bandwagon, he STILL doesn't push it at all and just lets it sit there, and still tries to say that the bandwagon is his attempt at scum hunting.
Gets defense and has the bandwagon as his only attempt at scum hunting.
More random stuff that has no meaning to the game (talking about Ryker and how Auspher liked him more as theman, and him looking forward to a case against him from Gorf.)
Moves his vote over to Ryker with the only information behind it being "Enough of that." ("That" referring to Ryker's "Dear Scumbuddy" messages.) I don't see why he would vote Ryker just for that when there are other players in the game that have actual content, and I don't like this vote, either.
Still defends his scumhunting with the bandwagon on Glyph. Shows that the vote on Ryker was not scumhunting at all. With that defense, he also shows that he won't be scum hunting at all.
Says that he'll be able to provide more insight day 2, and gives us 3 null reads (Glyph, Gorf, and myself), gives us a town read (EvilEye), and gives us a scum read (Ryker). He also starts the "You don't want to lynch me..." thing here.
Defends his EvilEye/Ryker reads. This is the only good thing he's done all game, and even then the Ryker part is pretty BS, since Ryker really wasn't in the game at that point. Ryker also was asking questions at the time and was showing that he would be scum hunting. Auspher could have put the "detriment to town and won't scumhunt" logic with quite a few other players, but he chose Ryker. I don't see why, and I don't like it.
Next 2 posts are "I'm posting from mall. Kill me and town is dead!" and justification for that, which is "Because I don't care anymore"... welp.
After that, we have an AtE post saying that he has been trying to put effort in, but he was still getting pressured!!! Then he asks why Ryker wasn't getting pressured since apparently he wasn't putting in effort as well. I don't like the attempt to redirect the pressure onto Ryker.
When given an invitation to contribute by Gorf, his response is....Oh wait. He doesn't respond at all. Gorf asked him to back up his Ryker stance, and he just doesn't respond.
When attacked by Ryu about his stance on Ryker, Auspher says "Ryker only now contributed... have you not been reading at all?" Which at this point, shows that the read was BS. Ryker has been asking questions and been trying to get Auspher to do things (along with quite a few others), yet he only started contributing with his line of posts? His only defense to the Ryker stance was "Have you not been reading?!" as well.
There are a few more posts with RR that I can get to on/after Christmas. Sorry about lack of quotes. Was rushing since I'm really slow at re-reading and I tried editing out some poor wording (there will still be tons in there though lol.)
I'm going now. See you all after christmas.
Before that, he:
Voted glyph with RVS post.
Stayed in RVS foooorever.
When started getting serious, said that his RVS Glyph vote was an attempt to bandwagon, even though he didn't do anything with the vote at all besides make joke posts about it. Half-***** attempt at scum hunting.
After saying that it was an attempt to start a bandwagon, he STILL doesn't push it at all and just lets it sit there, and still tries to say that the bandwagon is his attempt at scum hunting.
Gets defense and has the bandwagon as his only attempt at scum hunting.
More random stuff that has no meaning to the game (talking about Ryker and how Auspher liked him more as theman, and him looking forward to a case against him from Gorf.)
Moves his vote over to Ryker with the only information behind it being "Enough of that." ("That" referring to Ryker's "Dear Scumbuddy" messages.) I don't see why he would vote Ryker just for that when there are other players in the game that have actual content, and I don't like this vote, either.
Still defends his scumhunting with the bandwagon on Glyph. Shows that the vote on Ryker was not scumhunting at all. With that defense, he also shows that he won't be scum hunting at all.
Says that he'll be able to provide more insight day 2, and gives us 3 null reads (Glyph, Gorf, and myself), gives us a town read (EvilEye), and gives us a scum read (Ryker). He also starts the "You don't want to lynch me..." thing here.
Defends his EvilEye/Ryker reads. This is the only good thing he's done all game, and even then the Ryker part is pretty BS, since Ryker really wasn't in the game at that point. Ryker also was asking questions at the time and was showing that he would be scum hunting. Auspher could have put the "detriment to town and won't scumhunt" logic with quite a few other players, but he chose Ryker. I don't see why, and I don't like it.
Next 2 posts are "I'm posting from mall. Kill me and town is dead!" and justification for that, which is "Because I don't care anymore"... welp.
After that, we have an AtE post saying that he has been trying to put effort in, but he was still getting pressured!!! Then he asks why Ryker wasn't getting pressured since apparently he wasn't putting in effort as well. I don't like the attempt to redirect the pressure onto Ryker.
When given an invitation to contribute by Gorf, his response is....Oh wait. He doesn't respond at all. Gorf asked him to back up his Ryker stance, and he just doesn't respond.
When attacked by Ryu about his stance on Ryker, Auspher says "Ryker only now contributed... have you not been reading at all?" Which at this point, shows that the read was BS. Ryker has been asking questions and been trying to get Auspher to do things (along with quite a few others), yet he only started contributing with his line of posts? His only defense to the Ryker stance was "Have you not been reading?!" as well.
There are a few more posts with RR that I can get to on/after Christmas. Sorry about lack of quotes. Was rushing since I'm really slow at re-reading and I tried editing out some poor wording (there will still be tons in there though lol.)
I'm going now. See you all after christmas.
Ryker... did you mean
Gorf/Someone else instead of Gorf/KevinM and are just compounding from another mafia?
Just curious.
Gorf/Someone else instead of Gorf/KevinM and are just compounding from another mafia?
Just curious.
How great is Mentos, your opinion. I can't remember him at all. It's all hazy and so long ago.
Assuming Circus town flip, you two will be the first place I go. Nope, not mistaking this from another mafia game.
Just great. Not quite superb or anything, but he's definitely one of the better players on the site. His politician-like posting style makes him difficult to get a bead on as either alignment (which ends up being pro-his-alignment either way), and as scum his nebulous playing style explodes in usefulness while as town he just has good instincts and the balls and brains to back them up.
However he's well, well well well beyond the threshold to do protown-but-actually-null things such as discourage a buddyer, which is why I was bothered.
so I'm playing arkham city and I just kneed a guy in the *** so hard he got knocked out and possibly paralyzed
seconds earlier I totally punched a guy in the d---
seconds earlier I totally punched a guy in the d---
There is no "pro-town threshold" for common sense.
I read that analysis and I want to puke. He can be protown THROUGH his posting style, but his posting style is in no way protown (i.e. Moriarty)
I read that analysis and I want to puke. He can be protown THROUGH his posting style, but his posting style is in no way protown (i.e. Moriarty)
....what?
I'm saying he's beyond the threshold of goodness as a player to do things that seem protown yet are null because they're actually common sense and demand no commitment on your part.
Dorp.
I'm saying he's beyond the threshold of goodness as a player to do things that seem protown yet are null because they're actually common sense and demand no commitment on your part.
Dorp.
EBWOP: I'm talking about when he is scum, if that was somehow not obvious.
The first statement is agreeing with your conclusion about that.
The second was an issue with your analysis of Mentos.
The use of the term threshold made it seem that you were conflating all of my points into me somehow defending mentos despite that this conversation started because I chewed Gorf out.
To the second point, whoop, I meant to say it can end up pro-alignment either way. Usually it just makes him hard to read which is a hinderance because if it were possible for him to be obvtown in a game it would make it easier to trust his good judgment as anything other than manipulative. However it can pay off, since as one of the people that has mastered posting exactly the same regardless of alignment, it's impossible to try to guess his role. Any good scum PR-hunts if they have the time and mentos's impossibly rigid and nebulous posting style makes that impossible with him, which is its one virtue when he's town.
Anyway this is getting beside the point. So how are you likin' J so far? Who are the plays right now?
To the second point, whoop, I meant to say it can end up pro-alignment either way. Usually it just makes him hard to read which is a hinderance because if it were possible for him to be obvtown in a game it would make it easier to trust his good judgment as anything other than manipulative. However it can pay off, since as one of the people that has mastered posting exactly the same regardless of alignment, it's impossible to try to guess his role. Any good scum PR-hunts if they have the time and mentos's impossibly rigid and nebulous posting style makes that impossible with him, which is its one virtue when he's town.
Anyway this is getting beside the point. So how are you likin' J so far? Who are the plays right now?
Everyone should be able to stay true to their style of posting in order to avoid being seen as a PR when you don't want to be.
Yeah, it is.
I'm not. He's going back and forth with me in another game as we speak.
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EE and Ryker, is a Mentos lynch something you'd support toDay over an inactive?
Okay here is a little blurb of what I thought while I was reading the game.
I'll explain the town reads quickly.
Joey is one of the people I just know as a player really well so I can read his intent solidly. His intent this game is shining town for me with the way he is pushing his reads and being an active part of the discussion. Although, I disagree with his Auspher push, it seems genuine like he is confident in his read and must push it. The only weird thing is the that he continues to say that he is V/LA but keeps popping back up, though that just seems silly to me. =P
Evil Eye is a little bit of a no brainer for me. I'm not getting any vibes of the scummy guy from PF who beat me out in LyLo. *Mean person ;_;* His activity is a lot more than I have thought from him and he is pushing people he thinks are scum based on good reasoning. It's like night and day from the Evil Eye I learned at first. I just like what he's doing and see his train of thought really well with town intent.
KevinM is an odd one for me to have a town-read on. I've only played with KevinM a couple of times but I'm beginning to learn his playstyle. At first, I wasn't liking KevinM simply because he is a coaster, however, I'm become accustomed to that being the normal him as town. So I took another look at his posts and found that he is actually saying things in his posts that make me see him as town. Like him questioning some of the main talkers and making his reads known a bit in the thread. Not seeing any mal-intent nor really anti-town from KevinM so I'm cool with keeping him
^Those more or less came in order of my town reads' strengths.
I dislike both Gheb and RR for different reasons.
Gheb moreso is that he is merely going after weak players and when EE called him out on that, it was right on the money. He has continued to just float about not doing much of anything yet when provoked he bites back insanely hard. *Confrontation with EE* He's gone after KevinM for not giving a stance list (yet KevinM has been giving stance), Kataefi for a ??? reason, Joey for being Joey, and RR which he just keeps saying. They seem like cop-out scum-picks and he hasn't really done much of anything to push any four of them as the main lynch target.
His non-prescence is something I don't like as well but I'm chalking that up to Christmas since he said he had Christmas johns as of late so I'm cutting him some slack. Gheb just doesn't seem that towny this game to me and reminds me of Higurashi.
RR is just moreso a vibe than anything else. His play is really reminding me of how he played in Higurashi and there was just this one quote that looked too similar too me for marking it up as a coincidence.
This post in Higurashi and This post in Lost Mafia
It reminded me because of the utter appalment RR had in that game combined with the fact of that Vote/Unvote line he did just screamed to me similaritiy. It isn't enough for me, however, to want to lynch Ryu but I do have my eye on his simply because his play is coming off as shady to me.
Rajam, I dislike purely because his posts lack anything with getting his hands dirty. he continues to attack (lightly at that) that he dislikes a certain person's posts. Let's bring up his quoting/questioning of EE. He continued to express concern with EE's posts but never made a move to call him scum for it nor did he call him scummy for said post, merely just said that he disliked the posts. Afterwards when he posted a reads list, EE was founded as null.
With current arguments, he is the ultimate person in the middle of everything which makes me even more wary that he is scum just looking for the best opportunity for him to swoop in and do something that seems towny. His play screams, to me, precautious scum looking for a way to make himself a presence in a game just enough to avoid being called an inactive and just inactive enough to lay low away from fire. He continues to express null things while not necessarily delving into why someone is scum. One sentence really cemented that I want to lynch Rajam the most.
My notion is that he choose those three because they were the most talked about and seemed to be the headway for discussion. (Glyph/Circus*now me*) Especially.
Two reads to me that are quite interesting are Ryker/EE. EE because he calls him "too comfortable in the game" which makes him wary. I don't know whether he is calling him scum or he is just stating a fact he dislikes. EE being comfortable doesn't seem really indicative of alignment. How is this a scumtell?
Next is Ryker which is a complete hypocrisy and seems cautious. He says he dislikes Ryker's playstyle and says he dislikes him AND he then gives Ryker this huge paragraph discussing what Ryker should do about certain things and how he expresses concern with his reads, but still calls him town.
Rajam also does not seem to care who we lynch toDay as long as it is one of the inactives being Glyph or myself. He continues to press this point on being they need to go because they are inactive. I'm sorry but to me, I just don't like it.
Vote: Rajam
Rajam, I would like scum-picks from you that are outside the inactives.
I would also like you to take a side of what Mentos/Gorf is to you since you have them as null iirc.
What is your opinion of Gheb/RR? Would you lynch them or would you save them if you had the choice?
I'll explain the town reads quickly.
Joey is one of the people I just know as a player really well so I can read his intent solidly. His intent this game is shining town for me with the way he is pushing his reads and being an active part of the discussion. Although, I disagree with his Auspher push, it seems genuine like he is confident in his read and must push it. The only weird thing is the that he continues to say that he is V/LA but keeps popping back up, though that just seems silly to me. =P
Evil Eye is a little bit of a no brainer for me. I'm not getting any vibes of the scummy guy from PF who beat me out in LyLo. *Mean person ;_;* His activity is a lot more than I have thought from him and he is pushing people he thinks are scum based on good reasoning. It's like night and day from the Evil Eye I learned at first. I just like what he's doing and see his train of thought really well with town intent.
KevinM is an odd one for me to have a town-read on. I've only played with KevinM a couple of times but I'm beginning to learn his playstyle. At first, I wasn't liking KevinM simply because he is a coaster, however, I'm become accustomed to that being the normal him as town. So I took another look at his posts and found that he is actually saying things in his posts that make me see him as town. Like him questioning some of the main talkers and making his reads known a bit in the thread. Not seeing any mal-intent nor really anti-town from KevinM so I'm cool with keeping him
^Those more or less came in order of my town reads' strengths.
I dislike both Gheb and RR for different reasons.
Gheb moreso is that he is merely going after weak players and when EE called him out on that, it was right on the money. He has continued to just float about not doing much of anything yet when provoked he bites back insanely hard. *Confrontation with EE* He's gone after KevinM for not giving a stance list (yet KevinM has been giving stance), Kataefi for a ??? reason, Joey for being Joey, and RR which he just keeps saying. They seem like cop-out scum-picks and he hasn't really done much of anything to push any four of them as the main lynch target.
His non-prescence is something I don't like as well but I'm chalking that up to Christmas since he said he had Christmas johns as of late so I'm cutting him some slack. Gheb just doesn't seem that towny this game to me and reminds me of Higurashi.
RR is just moreso a vibe than anything else. His play is really reminding me of how he played in Higurashi and there was just this one quote that looked too similar too me for marking it up as a coincidence.
This post in Higurashi and This post in Lost Mafia
It reminded me because of the utter appalment RR had in that game combined with the fact of that Vote/Unvote line he did just screamed to me similaritiy. It isn't enough for me, however, to want to lynch Ryu but I do have my eye on his simply because his play is coming off as shady to me.
Rajam, I dislike purely because his posts lack anything with getting his hands dirty. he continues to attack (lightly at that) that he dislikes a certain person's posts. Let's bring up his quoting/questioning of EE. He continued to express concern with EE's posts but never made a move to call him scum for it nor did he call him scummy for said post, merely just said that he disliked the posts. Afterwards when he posted a reads list, EE was founded as null.
With current arguments, he is the ultimate person in the middle of everything which makes me even more wary that he is scum just looking for the best opportunity for him to swoop in and do something that seems towny. His play screams, to me, precautious scum looking for a way to make himself a presence in a game just enough to avoid being called an inactive and just inactive enough to lay low away from fire. He continues to express null things while not necessarily delving into why someone is scum. One sentence really cemented that I want to lynch Rajam the most.
He isn't even offering up any scum-reads that show he wants to lynch them but moreso just stating that lynching inactives would be the best course to "send a clear message". That line just seems really fake to me. =x Plus he doesn't even care to mention other inactives like Soupa/FF/Kata but chooses those three in particular. Why?Rajam said:
My notion is that he choose those three because they were the most talked about and seemed to be the headway for discussion. (Glyph/Circus*now me*) Especially.
Two reads to me that are quite interesting are Ryker/EE. EE because he calls him "too comfortable in the game" which makes him wary. I don't know whether he is calling him scum or he is just stating a fact he dislikes. EE being comfortable doesn't seem really indicative of alignment. How is this a scumtell?
Next is Ryker which is a complete hypocrisy and seems cautious. He says he dislikes Ryker's playstyle and says he dislikes him AND he then gives Ryker this huge paragraph discussing what Ryker should do about certain things and how he expresses concern with his reads, but still calls him town.
Rajam seems to be trying to call Ryker town to get him off his back because iirc, Ryker was disliking Rajam earlier and it seems Rajam is trying to satiate Ryker by trying to help him. I dislike this paragraph because it looks like he is calling Ryker's activities scummy but he has him as a town-read. It seems backwards to me. xDRajam said:
Rajam also does not seem to care who we lynch toDay as long as it is one of the inactives being Glyph or myself. He continues to press this point on being they need to go because they are inactive. I'm sorry but to me, I just don't like it.
Vote: Rajam
Rajam, I would like scum-picks from you that are outside the inactives.
I would also like you to take a side of what Mentos/Gorf is to you since you have them as null iirc.
What is your opinion of Gheb/RR? Would you lynch them or would you save them if you had the choice?
J comin in swinging with a nice post, good to see.
I'm going to respond to Ryu, but not right this minute because I'm kinda lazy right now XD
Regardless I still fully support all the lynches I've mentioned.
I'm going to respond to Ryu, but not right this minute because I'm kinda lazy right now XD
Regardless I still fully support all the lynches I've mentioned.
#HBC | Gorf
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Hey cool I found time for a computer.
#HBC | Gorf
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... The point of that was I was voicing my town read on em to a point where he voiced attention to my saying he was town. It wasn't the discouraging buddying that I found to be protown (it's obv null), it's def his overall play that I've found protown.Hi J that's an absolutely fantastic catchup post you made just as promised whoa
no, no no, nonono, no don't do that.
Never give mentos a town read for something as ****ing null as discouraging buddying. Never give a town read to any great player for that. What commitment do they make in doing so? Really now.
Gorf you are better than that.
#HBC | Gorf
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I skimmed the reaction and thought woah, mentos is too relaxed. The tone he gave off at the beginning seemed like he knew it was a gambit... And like I said it was probz a combination of WIFOMing myself and not reading the whole thing through. I mean this can go on for eons, and it most def. depends on a mentos flip... leme ask, Am I scum outside of a mentoscum flip?
#HBC | Gorf
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I mean no I haven't made a nicely organized list, but I feel that I've made my reads pretty apparent from my pushes against people.Joey said:
#HBC | Gorf
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What was the point of 732-742?
#HBC | Gorf
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Unvote
Liked the J post. Not comfortable letting the slot clear, but I can see where he's coming from in the catchup post. As much as I was expecting bleck, semen-in-the-mouth stuff in it... There just isn't.
Gonna think about who I like as a lynch while I'm V/LA. If it's an inactive, alright. If it's Ruy (Btw that case on mentos was gross. I appreciate the idea of having bite behind your bark, but doing something like that with as much (imo) lackluster thingies, and on D1, is bad. Your content in your case was kinda superseded by the mudslinging)/Ausupher/Kat, coolio.
Liked the J post. Not comfortable letting the slot clear, but I can see where he's coming from in the catchup post. As much as I was expecting bleck, semen-in-the-mouth stuff in it... There just isn't.
Gonna think about who I like as a lynch while I'm V/LA. If it's an inactive, alright. If it's Ruy (Btw that case on mentos was gross. I appreciate the idea of having bite behind your bark, but doing something like that with as much (imo) lackluster thingies, and on D1, is bad. Your content in your case was kinda superseded by the mudslinging)/Ausupher/Kat, coolio.
It was very explanatory of where your head's at, and showed what I felt was a pretty decent understanding of the game thus far. While I may not agree with all of your reads at the moment, the explanations of the thoughts behind them was enough where I can at least see where you're coming from. <--that's what "nice" meant in the more drawn out way that actually took time to type XD
Haha alright thanks. I was just curious because nice was a word that didn't really give much of where you were going with it.
Mentos, what make you of Glyph and Kata? If you had to choose one to lynch and one to investigate who would it be and why?
Mentos, what make you of Glyph and Kata? If you had to choose one to lynch and one to investigate who would it be and why?
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Auspher, is there any reasoning behind how you organized that reads list (like is each category sorted in any way)?