Lord of the Rings mafia: Game Over

[#HBC | Mac]

vote: riddle

adum, the first thing you responded to was directed to tom, not you

 

[adumbrodeus]

Ahhh, ok, good catch though, been gone for a while?



Also, you need to unvote to vote. If you plan on actually voting for Riddle, since he seems to be the popular bandwagon atm, care to explain why?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

nick do i have to unvote to vote again?

if so can you get rid of that rule? kthx =D

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Will have to take a good look to see who I think is scum, currently I'm... meh, not gonna do it now.

 

[Nicholas1024]

nick do i have to unvote to vote again?

if so can you get rid of that rule? kthx =D

I don't really care, but I'd start caring before I'd change the OP. Yeah, I'm lazy. (j/k, OP changed.)

 

[Kirbyoshi]

@Xonar: Don't worry, your vote is in the right place. Right on OS, where it should be. Blatant contradictions+hypocrisy=scum. QED

@mod: Is that Summoner's second prod?

 

[Nicholas1024]

Well, if you count the pregame prodding then yeah. However, I suggest you read the activity rules. I don't replace or modkill until I think it's necessary. No set number of prods here.

 

[SummonerAU]

Overswarm, would you still have voted Kirbyoshi if you didn't have any knowledge of his past games?

Kirbyoshi, did you want me modkilled for inactivity when you asked me that question?

I'm okay with McCloud. I don't like Macman's lack of explainations but he's cool so I'll 'let' him do it awhile longer.

I had a tourney Sunday (for me) and the person I was staying with didn't have internet (normally does).

Vote will depend on the answers to those questions.

 

[Overswarm]

Overswarm, would you still have voted Kirbyoshi if you didn't have any knowledge of his past games?

Nope. More information = more complex choices.

 

[adumbrodeus]

In regards to OS, he's explained it well enough, but it really needed a better explanation when he did it and when he made the initial vote. Because he didn't, it seems nitpicky, so he's in the same boat as McCloud suspicion-wise.


Regardless, I don't like the bandwagon Riddle was trying to start at all, OS was right, you can't pressure somebody who's V/LA with a bandwagon, so it looks like Riddle was just fishing for a lynch.

FoS: Riddle




Odd, why does Kirbyyoshi seem so eager to have Summoner replaced?

Will have to take a good look to see who I think is scum, currently I'm... meh, not gonna do it now.

... no real scumhunting drive, i don't like this post at all.

Vote: Xonar

Yes, start having an opinion, sooner would be better.





@Tom: Where the **** are you? Who do you think is scum?



In summary...

I don't like Xonar
I don't like Riddle
I slightly dislike McCloud
I slightly dislike OS
I like Macman
Tom and summoner need to post more.



@Tom and summoner: What do you guys think of Riddle and Xonar? What do you guys think of me?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

i think riddle wud make for a great d1 lynch

 

[Overswarm]

My list:

I love Overswarm
I hate everyone else

 

[adumbrodeus]

...

That was useless, care to comment on a more useful topic?


You've commented on riddle, so how about Xonar and his apparent lack of drive to scumhunt and contributions?



@Macman I'd be down for a Riddle lynch, but xonar needs pressure atm, his statement was incredibly anti-town.

 

[Overswarm]

I'll comment when something sparks my interest

 

[Riddle]

Tbh, I'm not understanding how what I did was scummy. I knew Kirbyoshi wasn't going to be pressured right then, but when he checked the thread and he had three votes on him he'd certainly be more likely to post.

How could a lynch have EVER happened on someone who was V/LA? That point is basically irrelevant, since I think everyone (including me) knows that that bandwagon had VERY little chance of ending in a lynch and that lynch would not have happened at LEAST until Kirb posted.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

@Summoner: Nah, it's just that inactivity makes for boring games.

@Riddle: What were your intentions in putting a second vote on me? Did you think putting votes on me would make me more likely to check the thread? Or did you think I would check the thread and not post?

Xonar and OS need to start caring. Notice how OS got all "meh" AFTER I put suspicion on him.

 

[Overswarm]

Xonar and OS need to start caring. Notice how OS got all "meh" AFTER I put suspicion on him.

Cool story, bro.

Mafia 101

Say things that are open to interpretation so that the person reading them will immediately think you are thinking what they are. Slight implications are great for this.

Ya know, like "Notice how OS got all "meh" AFTER I put suspicion on him". This does all sorts of things!

It implies that OS is "meh" about things. What "meh" is isn't really well defined or even possibly well deserved unless you're basing your case off of the whopping three posts after yours. Hardly a case. MAYBE an observation. Maybe.

Then the "AFTER I put suspicion on him", whoo boy, genius. Saying this implies that the suspicion is the reasoning for the action you are accusing me of! Correlation = causation, amirite?

Of course, the implications given aren't expanded upon. That would give you a stance, and stances are hard because other people can call you out on them. But simply implying something without clarifying the "why" or the degree of negativity? That's a lot safer, since anyone that agrees with you will automatically associate your implication as meaning you're on their side. You then get to piggy back the moment someone else picks it up!

So in the course of one sentence you managed to make a straw man argument, flat out lie or make an unsupported claim, make strong implications without clarifying the purpose nor the degree, and, the funniest thing ever...

Did it immediately after agreeing with me by posting this:

@Riddle: What were your intentions in putting a second vote on me? Did you think putting votes on me would make me more likely to check the thread? Or did you think I would check the thread and not post?

So, like I said before:

cool story, bro.

My vote stays.

 

[Overswarm]

Oh, btw? KirbyYoshi's post is immediately after Riddle's statement here:

Tbh, I'm not understanding how what I did was scummy. I knew Kirbyoshi wasn't going to be pressured right then, but when he checked the thread and he had three votes on him he'd certainly be more likely to post.

@Riddle: What were your intentions in putting a second vote on me? Did you think putting votes on me would make me more likely to check the thread? Or did you think I would check the thread and not post?

Maybe we should quicklynch Riddle for being a witch since he can see through time, amirite?

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Hey OS, I like your OMGUS. Everyone knows it's hard to ignore an OMGUS when it's that huge!

 

[Overswarm]

Hey OS, I like your OMGUS. Everyone knows it's hard to ignore an OMGUS when it's that huge!

I voted for you first, then you voted for me for yelling at Riddle for voting for you to start a wagon while you were V/LA, then you yelled at Riddle for voting for you to start a wagon while you were V/LA.

I think if anyone has pulled an OMGUS vote, it'd be you

Seriously though, you've not really been consistent at all and seem to be pretty content with saying "OMG ITS OVERSWARM SCUUUUUM" rather than, ya know, refuting points. Or letting silly little things like agreeing with me get in your way when it comes to attacking me.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Tbh, I'm not understanding how what I did was scummy. I knew Kirbyoshi wasn't going to be pressured right then, but when he checked the thread and he had three votes on him he'd certainly be more likely to post.

How could a lynch have EVER happened on someone who was V/LA? That point is basically irrelevant, since I think everyone (including me) knows that that bandwagon had VERY little chance of ending in a lynch and that lynch would not have happened at LEAST until Kirb posted.

Jumping on the easy bandwagon for a bad reason, it's probably one of the biggest individual scumtells ever. There were much more useful people to pressure.





I'd prefer to lynch xonar, but it's getting close to the deadline and that bandwagon isn't going anywhere, so going for my second choice.


Vote: Riddle

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

lolalmost deadline...
ehhh..

I'll look at this after school cuz i then will have a form of procrastination.
*** homework ya digg

 

[Overswarm]

My vote's staying on KirbyYoshi for now.

I find it less likely that Riddle is scum, seeing as how he did something incredibly stupid and did it by himself. Still possible, I'm just giving him more credit than that.

KirbyYoshi though, he's done things that only make sense if they were done by two separate people. So my vote stays.

 

[Overswarm]

@mod request votecount

 

[Nicholas1024]

@comod request votecount

Kidding. I'll have it up in a bit.

 

[Riddle]

Jumping on the easy bandwagon for a bad reason, it's probably one of the biggest individual scumtells ever. There were much more useful people to pressure.





I'd prefer to lynch xonar, but it's getting close to the deadline and that bandwagon isn't going anywhere, so going for my second choice.


Vote: Riddle

I need you to explain basically everything in this post. How was it an 'easy' bandwagon, and why was my reason 'bad'. I don't think there were more useful people to pressure since, I wanted Kirbyoshi to post. I didn't want him lynched but I might now.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Vote Count:
overswarm(3): kirbyoshi, Xonar, Tom
xonar():
kirbyoshi(2): Overswarm, Riddle
riddle(3): Summoner, Macman, adumbrodeus
adumbrodeus():
mccloud():
tom():
macman():
summonerau():
Not voting: Tom, Mccloud

 

[#HBC | Mac]

how is it almost deadline

vote: tom
are you gonna play? It's vastly uncharacteristic of you to be inactive.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'm sure he meant that there are 9 members of the fellowship, and that there are 9 of us, so flavor or name claiming most likely wont be an issue.

How can those 2 things be an issue?

 

[Overswarm]

Vote Count:
overswarm(3): kirbyoshi, Xonar, Tom
xonar():
kirbyoshi(2): Overswarm, Riddle
riddle(3): Summoner, Macman, adumbrodeus
adumbrodeus():
mccloud():
tom():
macman():
summonerau():
Not voting: Tom, Mccloud

Please add the deadline to all votecounts.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Please add the deadline to all votecounts.

It's in the thread title! Oh yeah, and Tom is being prodded.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

unvote, Vote: tom

still reading, temporary vote. probably going with tom

 

[Overswarm]

How can those 2 things be an issue?

In a game where flavor is prevealent, name claiming could be an issue. For example, if a LotR mafia game was made that said "good luck fellowship, stop that giant flaming eyeball" and had 13 players we'd go "oh, there's 9 town, 3 mafia, and an independent. Fellowship, Gollum as indie, obvious bad guys as obvious bad guys".

Bam, done. We name claim and bad guys have pressure on them.

In this one it is likely that anyone could be mafia.

 

[Overswarm]

It's in the thread title! Oh yeah, and Tom is being prodded.

Cool. Add it to votecounts too plox

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

That's not an issue, is it? It's an issue for scum.

Vote stays.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

maybe we shud nameclaim anyways

get it out of the way. Are there specific names that prs are more likely to have?

I don't know anything about lotr and i skimmed OS's post. (lol i hate flavor discussion)

 

[#HBC | Mac]

the lynch is def between tom, riddle, and summuner

 

[Overswarm]

maybe we shud nameclaim anyways

get it out of the way. Are there specific names that prs are more likely to have?

I don't know anything about lotr and i skimmed OS's post. (lol i hate flavor discussion)

I'm willing to claim. But... know this Gandalf: you will die when you claim. Not for any particular reason, just that mafia will be like "that dude has a ****ing power" and will kill him. That means that it'd be everyone claiming and Gandalf saying "not Gandalf!" and hoping he doesn't die.

This could be good if Gandalf was just a rnadom VT, but we don't know that so... I'd be against name claiming. We learn nothing, and it gives scum a direction that is outside of the game and thus can't be tracked directly.


I still think KirbyYoshi is the lynch for today.

 

[Overswarm]

Tom has posted once yesterday around 11 p.m. EST in barhouse mafia, but nowhere else. Unsure of his activity level or if he's lurking this thread, but his last activity was today at 12:15 AM EST (15 minutes after midnight) so he hasn't even been on today.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

macman whachu think of os+tom