Lord of the Rings mafia: Game Over

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Eminem got nothing on Clipse.

 

[Tom]

hello everyone, in case you didn't notice, half of us are already out of the joke phase. if you would please kindly start placing your votes so we can play the game, it would be appreciated.

 

[McCloud]

Tom, I'm fosing you because you seem rather anxious. It's customary to start with RVS, it will eventually go into the more mature and well reasoned part of the game, and there's no real need to hurry it. It happens by itself. So I'm curious as to what the rush is. That's all. My vote stays on Macman for failing to give an elaborate position on Em's new album.

 

[Riddle]

vote: mcfox

I put 'je suis l'agent du chaos' into babelfish and it told me it meant 'I am mafia'

 

[Tom]

Tom, I'm fosing you because you seem rather anxious. It's customary to start with RVS, it will eventually go into the more mature and well reasoned part of the game, and there's no real need to hurry it. It happens by itself. So I'm curious as to what the rush is. That's all. My vote stays on Macman for failing to give an elaborate position on Em's new album.

How did I seem anxious, when all I had posted was "I'm sure he meant that there are 9 members of the fellowship, and that there are 9 of us, so flavor or name claiming most likely wont be an issue. Also, he's not talking to you, mod! Shut up and let us play! " What, in that quote, seems against RVS? Maybe you can collect my anti-RVS stance *later*, when I literally say "we are out of RVS," but not when you had already FOSed me.

There is no rush, but when OS and I are actually talking about game-related stuff, there is no need to go back to talking about music. You don't need to be in the RVS anymore, Wumbo. (Macman, Xonar) (Riddle)


@Riddle: that's not McFox, that's McCloud.

 

[Tom]

EBWOP: straight up looking back, I would remove Xonar from those parentheses.

 

[Riddle]

Oh wow. Dont even know what i was thinking.

unvote, vote: mccloud

lol sorry mcloud.

 

[McCloud]

This is taking way too long. For a 9 man, we are going to need tight-knit discussion and activity.

hello everyone, in case you didn't notice, half of us are already out of the joke phase. if you would please kindly start placing your votes so we can play the game, it would be appreciated.

Pushy, but not enough to warrant more than a fos at this moment. Don't get so defensive.

As for riddle, lol McFox. Did you really have to put that into a translator?

Mod prod the remaining unconfirmed please?

 

[Tom]

@Wumbo: That first post was before the game even started, I was stating that it was taking way too long for people to confirm their Role PMs. I'm sure you agree seeing as how you are asking the mod to prod them...

That second post was after your FOS, so you couldn't have used it to support your FOS logic.

So basically you are FOSing me for wanting to nix the RVS.

Do you think it is anti-town to be pushy or push for high activity / serious discussion? Do you think that is out of place on D1? We have 9 days to get push each other around, find suspicious people, have claims, have lynch - why don't we start asap?

 

[Tom]

I no speaky English good lol.

 

[Tom]

@Riddle, Macman, Xonar, adumbrodeus: Do you think OS's analysis of the flavor warrants further discussion? Do you think its pro-town or pro-scum or null to discuss flavor? What comments do you have about OS-Tom, or Tom-Wumbo?

 

[adumbrodeus]

@Tom My impression of Nicholas is he probably randomized roles and powers based on the play that I've seen from him previously (I've learned to always attempt to metagame my moderators). As such I see no reason to continue unless we have some evidence that it will be useful in the future, which I doubt. I however, see no problem with a post to explain that it's null in this game, at least at the moment.


OS-Tom: OS has a thing for flavor discussion which may or may not be useful and Tom seems to be extremely against it, null tell imo.


Tom-McCloud: I think the FOS was the first forray into serious discussion and it makes me suspicious that McCloud is attempting to take it back now to a degree. You had yet to say anything serious at that point and he FoS'd you, saying it was because you were over-eager.



I don't like McCloud
I like Tom
I have a null read on OS
I have no read on everyone else because they're in silly mode, and while it's understandable, it should stop.



Unvote
Vote: McCloud


McCloud, you said that you FoS'd because he struck you as over eager when he had yet to make a serious post at the time of your FoS, why?

 

[Nicholas1024]

They have until midnight tonight to confirm and post, else I'll prod them.

 

[McCloud]

Talented as Mr. Tom is at manipulating what I'm saying, the fact remains that I fos'd him immediately for making his first statement, which I found to be overeager, especially considering that we had entered RVS already. If it is because I have misread Tom's first post, then I apologize, but the timing of it struck me as odd if he wasn't being serious yet wanted people to move into serious mode. The second post confirmed my thoughts of Tom being overeager. Easy to grasp, really. Any attempts at warping my fos into something they're not is silly.

@Tom: people were already voting, so I'm sorry if I mistook your post as being in a rush to get over RVS phase.

That should answer your question, adum.

 

[Overswarm]

I feel like with a 7-2 advantage (6-2-1?) there should be some mathematical system that would allow town to win without actually posting. I might try to figure that out someday.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

@Riddle, Macman, Xonar, adumbrodeus: Do you think OS's analysis of the flavor warrants further discussion?

No

Do you think its pro-town or pro-scum or null to discuss flavor?

Scummy.

What comments do you have about OS-Tom, or Tom-Wumbo?

Tom and Cloud are town.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Talented as Mr. Tom is at manipulating what I'm saying, the fact remains that I fos'd him immediately for making his first statement, which I found to be overeager, especially considering that we had entered RVS already. If it is because I have misread Tom's first post, then I apologize, but the timing of it struck me as odd if he wasn't being serious yet wanted people to move into serious mode. The second post confirmed my thoughts of Tom being overeager. Easy to grasp, really. Any attempts at warping my fos into something they're not is silly.

@Tom: people were already voting, so I'm sorry if I mistook your post as being in a rush to get over RVS phase.

That should answer your question, adum.

How is this serious:

I'm sure he meant that there are 9 members of the fellowship, and that there are 9 of us, so flavor or name claiming most likely wont be an issue. Also, he's not talking to you, mod! Shut up and let us play!



LOOL

vote: overswarm

we decided this pre-game, didn't we? hurr durr i hate you blah blah

An attempt to get out of RVS?


"Mod, shut up and let us play" and "OS we preemptively enemied, you suck, BLAH!".


His second post was out of RVS because your FoS was odd according to him, and that was the first serious maneuver in the game. Your critique therefore applies far better to you then him.


I find it hard to believe that you read this as the first serious post in the game and an attempt to get out of RVS.

 

[McCloud]

The post I am referring to is the post that I have previously quoted.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Doesn't explain your original FoS though.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Preemptively prodding kirbyoshi and Summoner because I'm impatient. They'll be replaced if they haven't posted by noon EST on thursday.

 

[Riddle]

@Tom

Flavor discussion is null, I don't think either of the pairings really give us that much info.

@McCloud

Joke vote. I did not put your title into a translator. I don't fail that bad.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

vote: summoner

recovery hasn't grown on me yet and its still meh in my mind. but i have hope tht one day ill realize how good it is... i simply just havent yet

 

[Riddle]

Macman, I think we are mostly out of RVS. What does town gain by still talking about this?

Vote:Macman

 

[Nicholas1024]

I have made contact with Kirbyoshi, he is alive and should be posting shortly.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Hai gaiz, I'm here.

Finishing up short read after dinner. Of course my sister would come get me for it right as I was starting to get to the good part -_-.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Ok, so reading back, I'll Vote: Overswarm because your "flavor discussion" reeks of phishing AND trying-to-look-town-without-adding-actual-content (<-- is longest hyphenated word to date).

FoS: McCloud because Tom was not trying to push anything. I don't even see where you get that.

 

[SummonerAU]

Sorry for being dead. Had no internet access. Will be reading tonight in the next 3 hours sometime.

 

[SummonerAU]

Confirming. Sorry about that Nich, I couldn't et any access to at least post V/LA

 

[Overswarm]

Ok, so reading back, I'll Vote: Overswarm because your "flavor discussion" reeks of phishing AND trying-to-look-town-without-adding-actual-content (<-- is longest hyphenated word to date).

FoS: McCloud because Tom was not trying to push anything. I don't even see where you get that.

Same as ever. Hope you don't hand the win to mafia again.


My "flavor discussion" is pretty straight forward: it's a listing of what things could possibly come from flavor which, as posted, is pretty much nothing. So we don't have to discuss flavor.

I think a quick post saying "we don't have to discuss flavor" is more town than skimming over a post and ignoring the point and then voting for that person and saying "you're just trying to look town". You know what's more scummy? Voting for someone and using the buzzword "flavor" and assuming it means you're contributing.

 

[McCloud]

For the sake of clarifying what I thought was a fairly obvious timeline of events...

Beginning with MacMan's post #14 in which he votes Overswarm, I am under the assumption that we have started RVS. Adum's post #16 asks if we can start RVS. I place a vote in #17, assuming that we have indeed started RVS, and make a sly and incredibly humorous joke regarding it. I take Tom's #18 to be a serious part of the game, as I took the previous 4 posts. If my thoughtline had been correct (aka we had started the game) then to me it seemed scummy that Tom found it necessary to say something akin to his post #18, considering that we had already started the game.

Now, as I recall after not playing forum mafia for over a year, the game doesn't officially start until the moderator says it does. So I'm not allowed to take anything beforehand into context, and my original fos on Tom in post #30 takes his post #18 into context. That is the reason I found it to be pushy. Especially coupled with his post #42, which asks people to move out of joke vote phases.

So I apologize for taking something that couldn't have been part of the game into context, and for derailing the scumhunting for a significant amount of time.

Now, with all that being said,

unvote: macman
vote: summonerAU

Welcome to the game.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Now, as I recall after not playing forum mafia for over a year, the game doesn't officially start until the moderator says it does. So I'm not allowed to take anything beforehand into context,

why not?

 

[Nicholas1024]

@McCloud
Go ahead and do so. If he received his role PM before posting that, feel free to use it as evidence. I'd do it if I were a player, so I don't see why you can't.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Ok, that makes sense, however I think that was an odd take on what was said during the confirmation phase considering that it expressed frustration at the need for tight-knit discussion when the game starts, and people taking forever to confirm makes that unlikely.


Fair enough.



Overall, it strikes me as a little odd, but your explanation is satisfactory for now.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

@McCloud
Go ahead and do so. If he received his role PM before posting that, feel free to use it as evidence. I'd do it if I were a player, so I don't see why you can't.

dunno why you are interfering

 

[#HBC | Mac]

vote: adum

 

[Nicholas1024]

dunno why you are interfering

I'm just making sure it's clear that it's perfectly legal for him to use it as evidence. As a rule clarification, that's part of my job as the mod.

 

[SummonerAU]

OS, I don't really understand why "Hope you don't hand the win to mafia again" was needed. Are you trying to provoke a reaction or do you mean what you say? Do you write people's opinions off as worthless if they have made mistakes in previous games?

Xonar, do to make sure, do you find flavour discuss 'anti-town' or 'scummy'. I know you said scummy in your last post but I see it as anti-town more than scummy.

Tom, I am a heron and I am here to mess up your pots and pans. (I missed the joke period :[)

Vote: Riddle I'm the cop and I have a guilty on him.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

vote:riddle
fos: adum

 

[Overswarm]

OS, I don't really understand why "Hope you don't hand the win to mafia again" was needed. Are you trying to provoke a reaction or do you mean what you say? Do you write people's opinions off as worthless if they have made mistakes in previous games?

Does it matter? He won mafia for me in TMNT by being inactive in the game for like a dozen days straight. He was the doc, too. Hahahaha

Vote: Riddle I'm the cop and I have a guilty on him.

What? How do you have a guilty on D1? Were there N0 actions?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Vote: riddle
Anti-town = scum in here, if there's an indy he'd probably have the same amount of profit from 'discusison' as mafia.

OS vote riddle already