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List of things to look at while I'm at E For All

nuro

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Yoshi's jump out of shield
Mario Tornado Helicopter trick (rapidly press a i guess)
Mario's FLUDD to recover or in the air
The initial frame of DK's up-b. Does it still send people far?
Dk's upair is still the same?
Link can perform the bomb recovery? Maybe its harder/easier now?
Lag after Link's clawshot?
Samus's super wavedash/extendor
Pikachu's upair percentage? Is it still very weak?
How to crawl? I am guessing Pikachu is the only demo character that can do it.
How does Pit switch between bow and double swords?
More specific gliding info.
 

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My friend uses broly effect so much it's jsut sort of stuck. And in the videos, it seems like the characters die at unusually low levels of damage in comparison to melee. I know its different in terms of physics in alot of ways, and the people who were playing in the vids were no good and probably didn't DI, but tell me people won't die easily at like 70+, everyone seemed like GAW.
 

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yo Gimpy, could u find out if everyone is....."floatyer" than melee.....Because from the short video a while back Fox seemed to fall a lot slower than in melee

@ Chill Are you going too?
 

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I've already asked this before, but would someone attending E for All be able to text me when they find out if WDing is in and let me know? I'm going to a meeting for finance club and I probably won't have access to a PC until Friday and I can't wait to know if it's in or not.

PM me if you can. I'd really appreciate it.
 

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I'll be able to check in school or as soon as we get word. I could text message you if you so desire.

EDIT: I am not going, but people who are there will be pretty busy (look at the list we've burdened Gimpy with. I'm just saying I'd be willnig to tell you as soon as the information is made avaliable.
 

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Sorry to bump this back up, and I especially HATE to post in the Brawl forums... but after hearing about this momentum dodging, I had something I'd like you to check out. IF momentum dodging is true, normal WDing probably will not be possible, but could you check if the stationary WD still exists then (i.e. dash and use downward WD to stop immediately)? It's still a helpful technique that I like to utilize, and I was just wondering if it would still be in. Thanks Gimpy.
 

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Lol @ Gimpy stickying his own thread.


You better come back with a full look at the Fortress. Does it still have initial power? Is it still fast as hell? Does Bowser have the broly effect while doing it?
 

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Could you check whether or not Ike has the same down tilt as marth/roy? That'd be the final nail in the coffin...
 

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ah gimpy, one thing if you can, and it's small. you can do it WITHOUT actually playing.

listen for the voice actors. i've heard Mario makes different sounds this time around. plus it would be nice to know if Bowser changed from menacing monster to the voice he had in Sunshine or not (i hope he retains some form of monsterous roars), and other things like Ike (heard he had a higher voice, but i've heard low) and Samus/Zamus (hopefully they changed the robotic sounds to Jennifer Hale, unless it's just for Zamus)

thanks in advance, and Go Bowser!! give em hell gimpy!
 

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So, why was this stickied?
There ARE a lot of other threads like this, and ones that have been created this one, to-boot!

Anyway, I'll also be attending E for All tomorrow-- with my mom and friend-- and I'll be sure to check out some of these things as well, as I pulverize my opponents while using Bowser :crazy:
 

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something not much has thought of, can you check out ledge cancel?
where you use a ledge to slide off and cancel the lag of an aerial
 

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Lol @ Gimpy stickying his own thread.


You better come back with a full look at the Fortress. Does it still have initial power? Is it still fast as hell? Does Bowser have the broly effect while doing it?

YEAH! I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SAYS IT!

Tomaytoe-tomahtoh, right?

edit: colbus got to it first, i was going to ask about the voice actors quality.
 

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YEAH! I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SAYS IT!

Tomaytoe-tomahtoh, right?

edit: colbus got to it first, i was going to ask about the voice actors quality.
What is the Broly effect anyways? I'm assuming it has something to do with DBZ
 

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What is the Broly effect anyways? I'm assuming it has something to do with DBZ
there are oversized characters or just ridiculously strong characters that recieve little/no knockback from opponent's attacks and have moves immune to interruption. It's the same thing as heavy armor, where moves won't be interrupted by opponents attacks. It's like how nothing really stops giga bowser from moving, attacks have minor to no flinching effect on him.

For example in Budokai Tenkaichi 2, the great ape has broly effect when facing smaller characters, and can just fully charge hard melee attacks without them being interrupted.
 

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Can you check for any possible alternate outfits besides Dark Link, and definitely if possible give a screenshot of him. Don't know if that's been suggested.
 

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REally? That's interesting. Seems like something someone should have suggested a while back. Pikachu and Snake are known to be crawlers. If either are playable, they are the way to check.
 

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Could you check for the quality of the music? Like, if it sounds orchestrated or not?

Also, how much different is Ike from Marth and Roy? Does Ike's sword have the same properties of Marth's in Melee? (The tipper is what I'm talking about). Overall, how fast is Ike?

In the demo, who has the best recovery tactic? By this I mean, who has the most ways to get back to the ledge and actually make it back from certain death.

Is DK faster in any way? Does he have better range than he did in Melee? His range was quite pitiful in Melee as far as his Smash attacks went. Also, has his Fair changed any way? Basically, give a good rundown on this character and everyone else.

Just some questions for the people who aren't going to use Bowser.
 

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Hey Gimpyfish, thanks for assembling this great list and putting in all this time for testing and for your subsequent reports, it's extremely appreciated...

I know they won't be critical in how the game is played like WDing and L-Cancelling and the like, but I'm curious if you could make note of alternate costumes for the different characters and also the music samples that are used in the different stages (if there are any new ones that the DOJO hasn't alerted us of)? I don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but that'd be awesome, thanks!
 

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Record the tournament! The list in the first post is pretty much complete in my opinion (it mentioned alternate costumes, right? Get those on video!), some videos of people playing Brawl competitively for the first time would be awesome!

Ask if you can use a 'cube controller XP
 

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I have one request, and it's kind of a difficult one to test without help, but could you try to test the overall balance between power vs. speed?

I guess the best way to word this would be, say, if Bowser went up against Sonic or Fox(or perhaps Zamus), is he still totally screwed like he would be in Melee vs. Fox or Sheik? Yeah, I know the big guy has stuff he can do to Fox, but against Sheik, it was basically total ****... I'm really concerned seeing as how Boozer is one of my Melee favorites ( my original main, before I switched to Luigi in '04, actually), I really hope that he can at least hold his own when up against a speed demon.

Thanks to you and everyone else going to E4All to test all of this for us news-starved Brawl fans.
 

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um is it possible for you to check for a couple samus related techniques like missile canceling, double missile, super wavedash(doubt it is in), and grapple out of a dodge?.
 

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I've asked rc too. But just incase he doenst get a chance. Plz try to use the yoshi's up B to boost your jump. Check hes grabs and their speed. um. Try his foward roll. See if his in the egg or does he do the slow foward flip. And any shocking things bout damage. I think everything else has already been asked. Oh. Colors let me know if there are any new color. Or just list them all.
 

Takumaru

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Do me a big favor and check out the random B attacks sakurai left out for pit, metaknight and... those other people... Why isn't poke'mon trainer in the demo? I want to see a video with ivysaur jumping and using aerial attacks! :confused:
 

Byron X

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I don't know if this has been said but, check Pit's alternate costumes and see if they are good.
 

Mrobinson587

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The character part should be added in for sure since Zauron's list is WAY better organized.

Zauron get's an internet cookie for all the work he did organizing. BUT i guess we will find out tomorrow. Hopefully it will all be covered.
 

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Also, check for alternate costumes on the characters. Dark Link is a MUST SEE I'm sure for most.

Overall I'm curious if some clones can be put in as just alternate costumes. Like Sonic having a Shadow Costume, or Mario having a Doc costume.

and Albino DK just owns. Nuff Said.
 
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